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Forces of Destiny: Disney's First Failure in the Star Wars Universe. Hopefully They Got it Out of Their System. by hanshotfirst

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Forces of Destiny: Disney's First Failure in the Star Wars Universe. Hopefully They Got it Out of Their System.
If you have been following me for a while (or have eyes and can read my name) it's safe to say I have been chugging the Disney *Star Wars* "Kool-Aid" pretty hard. By now, most of you probably think I have a screw loose and I am about to propose to Mickey Mouse himself for resurrecting my beloved *Star Wars* franchise and creating amazing movies, TV shows, video games and toys.  

<br><center><a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1sarmp"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1sarmp.jpg" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>
*Search your feelings. You know it to be true!*</center><br>

Don't think I haven't tried. 

I have spelled out "I Love you J.J. Abrams" in cotton balls. I have stood outside of Walt Disney Studios in Burbank California holding a boom box over my head Lloyd Dobler style while it belts out the John Williams' score. I sent Bob Iger a valentine that said "I love you" on the outside. Then when you open it is says, "I know". Whenever I see a picture of Cinderella's Castle on my phone I swipe right. I got a tattoo...

You get the point. I have *loved* everything Disney has done with *Star Wars*.

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Then this happened.

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*Chewbaca is hiding behind Princess Leia. OK.*</center><br>

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*Star Wars: Forces of Destiny* is TERRIBLE.

When I heard about the concept, I was a little excited. From what I understood, Disney was going to create a *Star Wars* children's cartoon featuring the female leads from all of the *Star Wars* projects. With it being aimed at younger kids, I figured I wouldn't love it myself but I would enjoy watching it with my 10 year old daughter. I also heard that the stories would be "canon" so I had no choice but to watch them. ("Canon" means that the material is a "sacred" and genuine part of the Star Wars universe. If it happens in a canon piece of material, then it really happened in the Star Wars universe and it affects all other events in the Star wars timeline). 

I also discovered that these would not be full length 22 minute long shows. They were going to be mini cartoons with a running time of around 3 minutes. Hmmmm that sounded an awful lot like the [*Clone Wars* cartoon](https://steemit.com/review/@hanshotfirst/flashback-reviews-star-wars-side-projects-part-v-star-wars-the-clone-wars-2003-2005) produced in-between Episodes II and III of the prequels. That series was  created, directed, produced and co-written by Genndy Tartakovsky (of Samurai Jack fame). They were AMAZING! They were far better than the movies. I had high hopes that *Forces of Destiny* would follow Tartakovsky's lead.

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*This is what a good animated micro-series looks like.*</center><br>

Oh my god was I wrong!

Earlier this week, the first 8 episodes of *Star Wars:Forces of Destiny* were released on the Disney Youtube channel. They also supposedly aired on July 9th on the Disney TV channel... but I could find no record of them being shown. My son found them and showed them to me. He may be grounded for a week for doing so.

Today, my 12 year old son, 10 year old daughter, and I sat down and watched all 8 episodes. I would like my 24 minutes back please. I have no idea who the intended audience was for these. Because they feature the female leads from the movies and shows, one would think they were aimed at my daughter. If they were, they missed. Her response to the shows was, "They were too short. I don't get it".

<br><center>https://i.imgflip.com/kw17v.jpg</center><br>

I don't get it either. While Tartakovsky's micro-series could be spliced together to tell one full story from beginning to end, these are very short stand alone vignettes that serve almost no purpose at all. Perhaps they are aimed at *very* small children... but they are a bit too violent for that (but absolutely no one dies). 

My son watched them twice... but that is only because he is fanatic. He will consume *anything* if it is canon. He doesn't want to miss a single detail. I respect that. But he saw them, memorized what he needed to (which wasn't much) and now he's done. They certainly weren't for adults because they are vapid and boring. Furthermore...

# The animation SUCKS!

<br><center>http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/07/ewok.jpg
*It was very kind of Leia to perform the Heimlich maneuver on this teddy bear. The only problem is that he wasn't choking.*</center><br>

It is freaking *Disney*!!!! Animation is kind of their thing. How did they allow their name to be put on animation that is so horrible that it looks like it is unfinished? It was honestly as bad as the animation for the 1980s *Droids* cartoons.

If you are a Star Wars fanatic and you feel that you simply must watch them, first I am sorry for you, second I will give you three positive things to look for. 

1. Aside from Carrie Fisher, they used all the real actresses from the previous movies and cartoons.
2. They use John Williams' music.
3. The last episode with Sabine from *Rebels* and Princess Leia is actually not bad. Plus it includes IG-88!!! 

If you are going to watch them, good luck. Please stop reading here.

# Spoiler Alert!
<br>If you would like me to save you some time and tell you the "important" canonical pieces from the episodes, here they are:

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*What's that BB-8? You don't understand the point of this? Me either.*</center><br>

**Episodes 1 and 2: "Sands of Jakku and BB-8 Bandits"**
This takes place during *The Force Awakens*. On the way home from the market with BB-8, Rey is attacked by a giant sand monster that eats junk (and droids). She becomes friends with the giant monster by feeding it junk instead of BB-8. She gets attacked by Tito, the marauder who she saved BB-8 from... and a couple of his friends. The monster helps her.

**Episode 3:Ewok Escape**
This take place during *Return of the Jedi*. Did you ever wonder how Princess Leia got that dress she was wearing when her friends find her in the Ewok village? I know I didn't. But now we know! She got it by helping the Ewoks defeat a couple of really stupid Stormtroopers.

<br><center>https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/19761356_812698688889920_5870319888098131968_n.jpg
*Is this a bad animated version of Anakin Skywalker or Mick Jagger?*</center><br>

**Episode 4: The Padawan Path**
This takes place during the Clone Wars cartoon. Anakin Skywalker's Padawan Ahsoka Tano saves a little fish alien and her mother from a malfunctioning robot. I have never seen worse animation than the way Anakin was drawn. It was brutal!

**Episode 5: Beasts of Echo Base**
This takes place on Hoth before the start of *Empire Strikes Back*. I need to stretch a bit before writing this one...

Nope not ready yet...

Almost...

OK.

Princess Leia finds a sleeping Wampa holding a terrified Chewbacca like a teddy bear. Princess Leia saves him.

I'm not kidding. 

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*This is a hard fork. It is used for... (I'm sorry I couldn't resist).*</center><br>

**Episode 6: The Imposter Inside**
This takes place during the Clone Wars cartoon. While visiting Padme, Ashoka Tano notices that the table is not set properly. This leads to the discovery that the servant is really a lizard bounty hunter who planted a bomb. They make jokes about forks. 
Also not kidding.

**Episode 7: The Stranger**
No this does not involve putting your hand to sleep and...
This takes place before Rogue One. Jyn Erso stumble upon a little girl with a cat. She is sad. Stormtroopers come and say it is illegal to own a cat. They take it. Jyn rescues it. I cried.
Still not kidding (except about the crying part).

<br><center>http://cdn.darkhorizons.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/five-more-star-wars-forces-of-destiny-shorts-696x464.jpg
*Those Stormtroopers look sad. Maybe someone took away their cat.*</center><br>

**Episode 8: Bounty of Trouble**
I liked this one a lot. This takes place before *Star Wars*. Princess Leia is being *guarded* by Stormtroopers (she was a member of the Imperial Senate after all). Sabine from Rebels stages a fake abduction of the Princess so she can retrieve stolen data tapes from Leia. IG-88 shows up to attempt to *really*  abduct Leia. Leia gets the Stormtroopers to take him out. It ends with a reminder that Leia is a spy fighting the Empire from the inside. It was cool. 

# Has anyone else seen this? What did you think of it?
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@agcrypt ·
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I'm a huge Star Wars fan myself.  I didn't care for the prequels much, although I keep telling myself I'm going to re-watch them.  The Disney films, I haven't really come to a conclusion on whether I like them or not.  I did enjoy R1 though.  I saw something about these animations on the interwebs and it wasn't good.  Thank you for sparing these 24 minutes of my life!  I'm still trying to choke down The Clone Wars and I'm only on season 1.
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@hanshotfirst ·
Don't give up on Clone Wars. It gets progressively better. The final 13 episodes that went straight to Netflix are REALLY good. 

I looked at the new movies as kids movies. That made me give them a lot of room. Because of that, I really enjoyed them.
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@agcrypt ·
Hehe.  I don't plan on giving up on them.  I am determined to watch them.  I have a long way to go to get to the last season lol.  I bought the first season of Star Wars Rebels and I'm looking forward to watching it, but I'm not going to until I finish Clone Wars.
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@patriot ·
Yes they _**absolutely**_ get better. While I liked the first couple seasons they get a lot more interesting as it goes on. I have watched some episodes 3-4 times
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@ancap47 ·
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Star Wars has sucked since Return of the Jedi.  Hayden Christiansen sucked. Jar Jar sucked, then Rey and Kylo took suckiness to a whole new level.
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@hanshotfirst ·
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I looked at the new movies a little differently. I thought the prequels were aimed at... no one. But the Force Awakens and Rogue One were for today's 12 year olds. They weren't for 46 year old me. That realization made it much easier for me to simply sit back and enjoy.
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@ancap47 ·
I definitely wouldn't subject a young child's mind to the subversive messages those movies convey.
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@mattclarke · (edited)
I'm 38, and TFA is my favourite out of all of them. Also, Rogue squadron didn't even have a light sabre battle. What's with that?
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@paul.atreides ·
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Wait a minute, I though Jar Jar sucked on purpose because he was a Sith Lord in disguise?  I though Return of the Jedi sucked until I learned later that the party at the end was about the Ewoks celebrating all the free meat from the slain Storm Troopers.  After I learned that I had to slide ROTJ back into the "cool" column.
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@ancap47 ·
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ROTJ was a masterpiece compared to the Disney filth being put out.
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@anomiej ·
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Well, thanks for saving me 24 minutes of my life. Now I can gladly spend them on steemit instead :p
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@barrydutton ·
I have honestly learned a lot from your posts on this type of stuff since meeting on here so I am always raising an eyebrow at anything outside of the regular movie franchise.

Obv. I thought of you doing this photo recently for Steemit and my Shirts when I got this idea LOL...

https://steemit.com/steemit/@barrydutton/well-my-steemit-shirt-arrived-from-papa-pepper-i-felt-a-great-disturbance-in-the-force-that-day-but-turned-out-i-really-was-just

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Def. this is worth a look by you my friend.  

(:
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@bleedpoet ·
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Loved your piece, sad Disney can't hire decent animators😬
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@hanshotfirst ·
Yes. this seemed so rushed.
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@cupidzero ·
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I thought it couldn't be _that_ bad, so I watched the episode where Leia saves Chewy. Then I realized I was wrong. Now
https://media.giphy.com/media/3o84stMkKVCQHzyQqA/giphy.gif

This series is what happens when a creative genius who really cares about the product sells it to a soulless combine that just wants to churn out content for profit. Sad really. Your review is on the mark.
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@hanshotfirst ·
Great use of that meme!!!
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@cyberblock ·
It is going to be unreal I can't wait!
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@decimus ·
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100% upvote for the time saved by not watching them and reading your episode summaries. Thanks!
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@hanshotfirst ·
LOL. You are welcome. If you have 3 minutes, the last one is not so bad.
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@drstevegilbert ·
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I've only seen the first half so far.  Yes, I agree. The animation sucks.  The Mickey Mouse shorts seem to have a higher production budget than these.  The echo base one could have been cut in my opinion.  These seem to cater to my 5 year old because she like princesses, and Rey, and Leia.  I wish that Lucasfilm would have put a little more time into them.  And not show the echo base short.  Like... DELETE IT FROM CANON.  That's the worst one of the four I've seen by far! To make chewbacca look like a teddy bear is wrong.
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@hanshotfirst ·
I agree 100%. Maybe my daughter is just too old. I will have to show my 5 year old nephew and see what he thinks. But yes the Echo Base one was the worst.
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@dwinblood ·
Ugh.....   <- they can turn that into episode 9
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@f-arms ·
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not really a fan...just got curious about it...but you making this made me wanna see it..thanks
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@fauzi03 ·
Amazing post. I like mickey mouse because funny video :D
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@firepower ·
Well said! You are right!
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@geechidan ·
Hold on, what are we talking about here...the Star Wars virtual reality cartoon....which is pretty damn good.
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@goldkey ·
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As a Star Wars fan, this looks like it sucks big time... Disney Fails Again . . .
Good Post... Thanks. . .  Now I won't waste 24 minutes.
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@hanshotfirst ·
I saw the last two movies as kids movies so I gave them a ton of leeway and actually enjoyed them The Rebels show is really good. But this was terrible!
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@haji ·
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@hotrod ·
I agree
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
Did you see the new Star Wars Kids YouTube?
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@lexiconical ·
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*"I have spelled out "I Love you J.J. Abrams" in cotton balls."*

This....this tells me that you are not a Star Trek fan also. =(

Fuck captain Lens Flare.
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@hanshotfirst ·
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LOL. I am a fringe Star Trek fan. I find the movies entertaining but I'm not addicted to them the way I am Star Wars. Not being a purest allows me to look at the movies a little differently than a Star Trek fanatic.  I bet it is similar to a Star Trek fan who is a fringe Star Wars fan watching the prequels. Those movies make me angry. But I am sure some now fanatics found them entertaining. 

But I would never begrudge anyone for their sic-fi fanaticism.
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@lexiconical ·
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*"featuring the female leads from all of the Star Wars projects."*

This would have been a clue. Usually, when someone is forcing their (sexist) agenda explicitly in the design of the work, you can expect problems. See: Ghostbusters, potentially Star Trek:Discovery.
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@hanshotfirst ·
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Personally I don't think this was a gender thing. It was a bad writing and bad animation thing. These were all major and exciting characters from the shows and movies. With proper writing and animation, I think they would have been awesome. The last one was actually pretty good.
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@mctiller ·
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It's a numbers thing, you're bound to have some failures.  I haven't seen these but based on the animation alone it looks rushed.  

On the other hand, Clone Wars got way better as it moved along.
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@hanshotfirst ·
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I loved the Clone Wars cartoon... especially the ones that went straight to netflix.
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@melek ·
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Wow...awesome...true and funny....Mickey Mouse...with a light saber.
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@melowd ·
That is what I'm waiting for. It is going to be LIT.
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@mujab ·
Hahahahahahahaha
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@hanshotfirst ·
Just lie. LOL
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@patriot ·
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Star Wars is awesome but it's disappointing when the trailer is almost longer than some of the short stories. I have loved all the Disney Star Wars movies and shows, but this one is very disappointing and is not the same caliber as the rest of Star Wars.
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@hanshotfirst ·
I agree. It seemed very rushed.
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@patriot · (edited)
definitely
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@redhens ·
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Everyone can't be awesome all the time. Maybe they just wanted to show that even in the Star Wars universe, characters have ridiculous moments, and waste time, and don't always look their best -- just like in the real world.

 I know -- it's a stretch. :-)
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@hanshotfirst ·
That is very Taoist of you! And since the force is Taoism... cant really enjoy the good Star Wars projects without comparing them to the bad. I'll buy that! Thank!
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@rightwithin ·
Very nice, Will be looking forward to your posts. 

Up-voted :-)
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@robjc ·
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Absolutely crazy lol I hope they don't ruin starwars for me!  Even stranger is fact that all new Star Wars movies coming out soon already have release dates!
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@hanshotfirst ·
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Yeah they are going to be pumping them out every year. So far I have been happy with everything except for this series.
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@patriot ·
same with me
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@rtdcs ·
Congratulations! Amazing post

Upvote and resteem :)
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@s-dbraybrook ·
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This was pretty entertaining...the post, not the show. Great job!
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@sheval ·
Oh be straight
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@sirknight ·
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I thought I was a Star Wars fan until I met you Han.  Now I know I am mere spectator to the whole Star Wars phenomenon.   

That being said - back in the 90s I did read Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Triology - and the serious was sensational!  Was always hoping the that episode 7 would go down the Thrawn path - but it kind of just skipped straight over it as if it never happened.

U & R - SK.
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@hanshotfirst ·
Timmothy Zahn's Star Wars books are my favorite ever! I am honestly not much of a reader but I read that original series multiple times and own and have read the hardcovers all of his others. Zahn released an entire Thrawn novel a couple of months ago. 

If you need a Thrwan fix, he was a MAIN character in the cartoon Star Wars Rebels on the Disney Channel. It is young Thrawn before Rogue one. It's awesome.

I have heard rumors of a stand alone movie or his inclusion in upcoming projects. Thrawn lives!!!
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@sirknight ·
Awesome Han - probably time I got another Thrawn fix - best villain ever!
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@trendo ·
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Okey I guess I'm not going to be watching these :D Some things turn out to be shit even though they "should" be good.
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@hanshotfirst ·
I was really disappointed.
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@uglysweater ·
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I haven't even heard of this cartoon! Too bad it isn't good. It's a bummer when Disney misses the mark. I am a huge Disney fan and I really enjoy Star Wars, too. They should have asked your opinion on these first. 😊
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@hanshotfirst ·
LOL. If you can, please forward them my number so I can green light (or relight) these projects. ;)
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@voorash ·
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I think worse than Leia giving a teddy bear the Heimlich is the fact that where her elbow stops it can't possibly be attached to her upper arm. Maybe the teddy bear is ripping her arm off.

This series seems like it might need either a Mystery Science Theater or possibly bad lip reading treatment.
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@hanshotfirst · (edited)
LOL! Great catch! No way those arms are attached. Yeah this thing is primed to be spoofed.
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@voorash ·
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Actually now that I think about it maybe this is what they were going for.  It is Bizarro Leia. Bizarro love small bear.

![bizzarroholdewok.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZweT7DoAAQGZ2Ya4dexNkHzXy6oQNb1C7wMppJCeMdnB/bizzarroholdewok.jpg)
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@hanshotfirst ·
Wow! That is perfect! Bizarro *hate* large bear.
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@waniowski ·
movie was not bad
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@waykiwayki ·
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So sad....but we knew when Disney bought it that the destruction would begin.  Disney is a Sith Lord.
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@hanshotfirst ·
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I don't know. I have really liked everything up until this one.
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@voorash ·
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There wasn't much left to destroy after the prequels in my opinion.  I think Disney resurrected my beloved Star Wars and I can forgive them a horrible misstep from time to time in a children's cartoon.
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@waykiwayki ·
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Agreed.  I'm excited to see clone wars animation.   One of my best "star wars world" experiences was the game Knights of the Old Republic - was pretty epic.
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@yaan · (edited)
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Are they that bad? Looks like Aladdin :d
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@hanshotfirst ·
yes. The animation is worse than Aladdin. There are some scenes where the characters are walking and it looks ridiculous.
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@yaan ·
Oh no, how dare they make animation worse than Aladdin! I can't tolerate that!
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