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How far is too far when it's right for you?
It seems I've been talking to people about yoga a fair bit lately. As I mentioned, I'm doing my yoga teacher training at the moment, so go figure, right? Anyway, it struck me as interesting that multiple people in different settings and from different backgrounds came up with the same question:

> Why would you go so far to find answers instead of looking where you are? You won't. It's too different from who we are.

I got the same reaction both from Christians and from people of no specified creed (but not practicing Christians, either). This pervading sense that it's wrong somehow for Europeans to go looking at Eastern creeds and belief systems. Unnatural. I've heard it said multiple times that the cultural differences are just too great to make something like Buddhism feasible in a European context and background.

I even heard the same views espoused while watching *The White Lotus* last night (please no spoilers for the last two episodes). 

Now, the first time I heard it said to me, I thought sure, aren't we all the same, more or less? We're all human beings trying to make sense of things, and if someone came up with some good ideas, then would it be so bad to apply them to my own life as a European?

Also, in a way, I got it. After all, the West is awash in pseudo-awakened people who think all that means is mastering a few yoga poses and layering beads around their necks while behaving like scumbags. We have those, too. There is certainly a sense that "our" religion at home, namely Christianity, is passe and silly, balanced with an overwillingness to observe other religions with unwarranted reverence. You'll have noticed the way some Westerners *hmmm* and *ahhh* respectfully at singing bowls, talks of vibration and frequency, and mudras.  It's often the same people who will sit and chant dutifully in a yoga class who scoff at the old ladies in the back of a church pew as ignorant and brain-washed.

That, indeed, seems strange to me.


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So the first time I heard it, I thought what difference does it make? We're all the same anyway, but the more I thought about it, the more I started wondering if it's not a little bit like a shopping experience for us in the West. We're just gonna have what they're having, 'cause we sure know what a mess ours is, right?

Of course, the deeper I got into the whole training thing, the more I came to realize how similar we actually are. Much of what I heard in my training was similar with (if not downright the same as)  things I've heard inside my own Catholic family. A lot of views about the world were similar, though of course if you tell either party "that's just the same as the other lot", you won't have a good time.

In the end, you'll find, most genuinely good people are simply trying not to muck everything up.

So I guess I stuck by my initial response in a way. So far, it all seems to be the same. So far, I don't personally feel closer to any one creed, though I understand, the more I live, the importance of ritual, of a shared faith, of belonging to a community.

And I wonder if that doesn't tie into the warnings I received. Don't go looking for a creed in India or China or wherever, it's not for you. And at first I thought, what, because they're so different from us, you mean? But now, I'm wondering if the heart of the problem isn't someplace else, entirely.

It's not that their religion won't work for me. It's that I'll never find my people so far from home.
While yoga is a rising trend across Europe, true Buddhism is not. We do have a lot of pseudo-practicants, as I say, and we do have a lot of people using it as (a very justified) rebellion against the religion they were born in. But that's not real, either. Not to say there's no true Buddhists in Europe, I'm sure there are, but not enough perhaps to create that place of stability, that going inward to center then outward that attending church realizes for most observing religious people.

If it doesn't afford you that community and that access to ritual, can it be enough? And where do you find that community and ritual in a world that doesn't observe them?

It's not what I think. I don't know what I think yet, but I'm trying to guess at why these people think this way and what it may mean for me. I'm at a seeking point in my life and I am thinking more openly about most of the major religions. And from that perspective, I do understand the concern this surge of concern towards my yoga. When I was younger, I would've brushed it off, would've said I can make up my own mind, thank you, and won't be easily influenced. Yet I look at myself and realize I am, in a way, see myself open to the many embodiments of religious practice, grow more aware and more open to the need for ritual and community that is in many ways achieved in organized religion, and I just don't know. But I know better than to wear my soul lightly through this search.

**I realize increasingly I'm looking for something. That whatever it is I've had until now is failing to be enough anymore. Maybe that will change. Maybe I will.**

#### What do you think? I know there's people on here of all creeds and no specific creed, and your two cents' worth is certainly as welcome as mine.


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@artsyn ·
This is a thoughtful post about the similarities and differences between religious experiences across cultures.  I also once dismissed the idea that different religions mattered, but upon further reflection, realized that the underlying human needs for community and ritual are universal. 
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@claudiocruz ·
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Probably people are just afraid to find out  that other traditions and cultures besides the inherited ones might actually work. If you're not finding answers on your surroundings you're allowed to search wherever you want, and I think that that's a great thing about you. Keep going! You're awesome 😁.
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@consciouscat ·
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Gosh, this post reminds me again of why I love you.

My current perspective, as an Australian woman in my early 40's who grew up with highly educated, fairly worldly, non-practising Catholic parents who encouraged us to ask questions... is this:

I think at the core of every major religion we find the same things: Love. Acceptance. Compassion. Kindness. Tolerance of differences.

I think layered ON TOP of every major religion is a lot of very human, very messy interpretations filled with distortions, unconscious biases and additional made up rules that have little to do with the core of the religion itself.

*I say look as far and as wide as you need in order to find teachings that feel like home.*

And also, probably, if you're not already, be grateful that you have the freedom to explore what you believe without potential real or probable threat to your safety. Because this freedom we have is so easy to take for granted and so many of our siblings around the world have no choice around what they practice, preach or believe.

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I'm beginning to see things this way, also. It's messy human interpretations that cause a lot of needless tripping over otherwise sound, healthy concepts. Thanks, lovely! <3
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@gabrielatravels ·
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I think everyone has a bit of skepticism before trying any of the Yoda and Buddishm activities, but I'm happy to see more and more people getting involved. Personally, I never tried any of the two but I have relatives who are doing it and I can see the improvement brought to their overall lifestyle.
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@honeydue ·
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I know what you mean! There's a good deal of skepticism around that in our country, but I'm glad to see people trying. As you say, even without the spiritual aspects, yoga can bring a positive change in one's life. :)
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@nanixxx ·
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My thinking is very simple... I like things to come to me when I feel the need to find something, not someone telling me where and what to look for. 
You absorb a lot through life but you only keep what is aligned with your true essence. That's why these people think like that.
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@honeydue ·
That's a very interesting explanation! You only keep what aligns. I hope that's true <3 Thank you.
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@whatmidesays ·
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Wow, this gave me so much to sit with.
I especially love how open you are to exploring these questions without pretending to have all the answers. Such humility is beautiful. this line, 

>it’s not that their religion won’t work for me, it’s that I’ll never find my people so far from home

is deeply resonating  as it is easy to get caught in the "aesthetics" of spirituality (especially in the West), but what you’ve written here, the need for ritual, community, and rootedness, really does feel like the actual core of what most of us are craving, you know? 

Maybe it’s not about where we find it, but how deeply we’re able to feel held by it. 
Thanks for sharing this. It was such a deep read. 🀍
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@wrestlingdesires ·
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I say look for the truth. I understand that the Catholic religion doesn't usually encourage reading the Bible, or doing your own studies,  but it's definitely worth it. So is looking into apologetics, and following along with a Bible. Question everything while on your search, so you can be very sure of what you believe  :)
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@honeydue ·
Thank you! I plan to, but haven't found the time just now. Question everything seems like pretty sound advice to me. :)
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@wrestlingdesires ·
>Question everything seems like pretty sound advice to me. :)

 Definitely :) . Truth is the thing we all want, I think. Really if we don't believe, what would be the point of practicing? Community? That can be had with or without religion, so the point of that is to gather with those who have similar beliefs  :).

I think with the advancements in quantum mechanics, science has proven that things are not only possible but probable that at one time in the recent past we considered pure fantasy or in the realm of needing to believe without questioning how it's possible. I hope you will have more time for your search soon :)
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