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Changes coming to a community near you !
Hey ! A rather short post but I figured I'd make a post to talk about it so that people are not surprised to see the changes if you don't follow the core dev meeting every month.

These past few weeks/months I've been spending more time on notifications of all sorts, with the blocktrades team we made a lot of changes some are invisible to you as it's mostly optimizations but some changes are going to be visible your way, I noticed that some notifications never make their way back to the correct user and needed fixing as the codebase has evolved over the initial release back in the old steem days. Some of those changes are already live if you decide to use api.syncad.com as api node.

## New notifications

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/howo/23vhPVK4neqwVtdifQ7BaZjge99WX1Um58qW6Nn3fiJRNa6fWFhYxkm5NaASrb3CUF1uq.png)


In short, you will now get community-related notifications, this is most important for mutes, I realized that when a mod/admin fill this form the mute reason never makes it's way back to the user

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/howo/23tRrJ92wiJqJ9NXDdBALuE3WNS5GnbCTQmjgDbLGGQVGXjjyodimZss2CKpAfrMVwCD5.png)

Which is not a great experience as I noticed a bunch of people in communities make another post/comment asking why their previous one was muted. 
I'm sorry I didn't realize that this data didn't make its way to users sooner, on the bright side, this change is retroactive so all users will see notifications about their posts that got muted.

## Community team size limited to 100 

There are two other notifications that I am working on adding: update community properties (title/description etc) and flagging a post:

![image.png](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/howo/23tw428Qre9DeGqChvnTQCiuqwvmrSXzKASNxbSa3LVE9QocVmtGAc9vkWVkvL45UHf9T.png)

These features will be enabled soon as a notification to all team members (meaning community members with those roles: moderator, admin and owner).

In order to prevent spam, we have agreed on a new limit for how many team members you can have on a community: 100. We think this is more than enough as communities average a team size of 4.5.

Worst case we will revisit this number later.

## Conclusion

Overall I'm excited to enable more collaboration and communication between community teams and the people using it. What other things would you like to see from communities ? 

Howo 
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@kgakakillerg ·
All downvotes should come with a comment explaining clearly why the downvote was given 

I've been getting downvoted for a long time by a witness who is farming Hive hard daily with the help of blocktrades πŸ€”
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@howo ·
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Downvotes are kind of outside of the community sadly and part of a broader issue with hive overall. Downvotes are an essential part of making proof of brain work but getting a downvote leaves such a bigger mark than getting an upvote that it creates constant fights, so at the end of the day few people actually downvote when on other social platforms like reddit, downvotes are very common. Overall I think this needs a deep redesign of the way post reward work, we tried the social layer (eg letting 25% of downvote power to be free) and that hasn't worked all too well.

Anyways that's a much bigger topic than this change / comment and I doubt adding a reason for downvotes would help that much. 
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@kgakakillerg ·
Downvotes are not outside of the community πŸ€” 

Downvotes are clearly killing Hive πŸ˜‚ 

It's quite stupid to keep downvoting when you have been exposed πŸ˜‚ and also it doesn't look good that blocktrades supporting the biggest farmer  scammer and downvoter on Hive 


All downvotes should come with a detailed reason explaining the reason for the downvotes and how to stop the downvotes


Downvotes don't bother people like you because you don't get downvoted and you also know all the downvoters πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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@kgakakillerg ·
Please tell your friends to get a life πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Blocktrades can you please stop downvoting my original content with your alt accounts thanks πŸ™πŸΎ 

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Don't be jealous So sad @themarkymark aka @theycallmemarky Aka @marky  @gogreenbuddy Aka @letusbuyhive @buildawhale Aka @punkteam please explain why you keep downvoting my original content and comments πŸ€”

Please explain to everyone why πŸ€”

@meno @steevc @crimsonclad @azircon let's not forget blocktrades πŸ˜‚ please tell your racist friend to stop downvoting my original content 

How can we we allow a mentally ill person to have so much control on Hive πŸ˜‚


It's unbelievable you downvoted this [Goodbye Auntie R.I.P πŸ™πŸΎ](https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@kgakakillerg/goodbye-auntie-r-i-p) You fucked up big time it's clear blocktrades is in control πŸ˜‚

If nothing can be done about your downvote abuse then Hive is a dead project πŸ‘ŽπŸΎ

It's crazy that the person doing the downvoting is also farming the shit out of Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚



If anyone wants to speak to me privately send me a message on Instagram @kgakakillerg 


You can never stop the truth with lies πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

It's crazy we have a man who pretends to be a millionaire running around Hive downvoting people for fun πŸ€” and nothing has been done πŸ€”


It's crazy that someone is trying to bully me on Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

It's unbelievable that no one has came to help as people are afraid to say anything or they get downvoted too πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

There's no real freedom on Hive if one person can cause so much harm

I feel sorry for you πŸ™πŸΎ


One thing you need to remember you can't take anything with you πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Go and enjoy your life have a bit of fun let your hair down go out and meet some real people in the flesh πŸ˜‰

Your actions show that you must own Hive Blockchain πŸ€” why do your actions go unchallenged πŸ€”


You are now stalking me πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Are you jealous about the DHF πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Aren't you farming enough rewards πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

I heard you were into very young girls πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Is that why you are always online πŸ€”

Stalking people

No one is scared of you πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

You are bad for Hive 


Power down and go away get a life

https://hive.blog/hive-135178/@crimsonclad/re-kgakakillerg-sxllhv

https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svftu9

https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svdjjz

https://hive.blog/hive-176853/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-syyy4x


It's unbelievable that they downvoted this [Goodbye Auntie R.I.P πŸ™πŸΎ](https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@kgakakillerg/goodbye-auntie-r-i-p)

It's clear you need help πŸ™πŸΎ

Hive is being held down by downvoting whales 

Do you get a buzz out of downvoting people πŸ€”

You should really try to get outside more spend some time in the real world 🌎🌍

Why are you pushing people away to blurt and steemit

You are all definitely going to hell πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Why do you want to make enemies all over the world πŸ€”


Blocktrades stop making a fool of yourself πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Steevc please explain to your friend they have been exposed πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Downvotes are weak like you πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Why don't you go and spend your millions of dollar's you have πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Blocktrades please explain why you keep downvoting my original content with your alt accounts πŸ€”

You are so sad it's unreal πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

You must know that you can't hide on Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


If you want everyone to leave Hive keep doing what you are doing πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Just remembered who started this


I'll be here to turn the lights off πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


You are still stalking me πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ it proves you have no life outside of Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Blocktrades please can you stop downvoting my original content with your alt accounts πŸ€” 

Also is bullying people ok on Hive πŸ€”

You are only making Hive look like a big scam



Why do you keep stalking me I'm not gay sorry I can't help you πŸ™πŸΎ

Just tell me what the issue is πŸ€”


You are that stupid you set up an account called letusbuyhive to downvote people and support your farming Hive friend's πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ and @buildawhale 

Please get some help πŸ™πŸΎ

It's clear who has mental health issues that's why you should really stop pointing fingers at others πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

It's clear blocktrades is behind this πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚





Can you please explain why you keep downvoting my original content I don't want to hear it's because disagreement of rewards I don't make any πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Please move on with your life blocktrades and leave me alone thank you πŸ™πŸΎ


Please tell everyone why you keep downvoting my original content πŸ€”


Still stalking me πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚



The way you are stalking me it's clear you have no Life outside of Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Keep downvoting people away πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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@kgakakillerg ·
Blocktrades can you please stop downvoting my original content with your alt accounts thanks πŸ™πŸΎ 

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Don't be jealous So sad @themarkymark aka @theycallmemarky Aka @marky  @gogreenbuddy Aka @letusbuyhive @buildawhale Aka @punkteam please explain why you keep downvoting my original content and comments πŸ€”

Please explain to everyone why πŸ€”

@meno @steevc @crimsonclad @azircon let's not forget blocktrades πŸ˜‚ please tell your racist friend to stop downvoting my original content 

How can we we allow a mentally ill person to have so much control on Hive πŸ˜‚


It's unbelievable you downvoted this [Goodbye Auntie R.I.P πŸ™πŸΎ](https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@kgakakillerg/goodbye-auntie-r-i-p) You fucked up big time it's clear blocktrades is in control πŸ˜‚

If nothing can be done about your downvote abuse then Hive is a dead project πŸ‘ŽπŸΎ

It's crazy that the person doing the downvoting is also farming the shit out of Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚



If anyone wants to speak to me privately send me a message on Instagram @kgakakillerg 


You can never stop the truth with lies πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

It's crazy we have a man who pretends to be a millionaire running around Hive downvoting people for fun πŸ€” and nothing has been done πŸ€”


It's crazy that someone is trying to bully me on Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

It's unbelievable that no one has came to help as people are afraid to say anything or they get downvoted too πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

There's no real freedom on Hive if one person can cause so much harm

I feel sorry for you πŸ™πŸΎ


One thing you need to remember you can't take anything with you πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Go and enjoy your life have a bit of fun let your hair down go out and meet some real people in the flesh πŸ˜‰

Your actions show that you must own Hive Blockchain πŸ€” why do your actions go unchallenged πŸ€”


You are now stalking me πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Are you jealous about the DHF πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Aren't you farming enough rewards πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

I heard you were into very young girls πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Is that why you are always online πŸ€”

Stalking people

No one is scared of you πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

You are bad for Hive 


Power down and go away get a life

https://hive.blog/hive-135178/@crimsonclad/re-kgakakillerg-sxllhv

https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svftu9

https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svdjjz

https://hive.blog/hive-176853/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-syyy4x


It's unbelievable that they downvoted this [Goodbye Auntie R.I.P πŸ™πŸΎ](https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@kgakakillerg/goodbye-auntie-r-i-p)

It's clear you need help πŸ™πŸΎ

Hive is being held down by downvoting whales 

Do you get a buzz out of downvoting people πŸ€”

You should really try to get outside more spend some time in the real world 🌎🌍

Why are you pushing people away to blurt and steemit

You are all definitely going to hell πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Why do you want to make enemies all over the world πŸ€”


Blocktrades stop making a fool of yourself πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Steevc please explain to your friend they have been exposed πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Downvotes are weak like you πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Why don't you go and spend your millions of dollar's you have πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Blocktrades please explain why you keep downvoting my original content with your alt accounts πŸ€”

You are so sad it's unreal πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

You must know that you can't hide on Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


If you want everyone to leave Hive keep doing what you are doing πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Just remembered who started this


I'll be here to turn the lights off πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


You are still stalking me πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ it proves you have no life outside of Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ‘ŽπŸΎπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Blocktrades please can you stop downvoting my original content with your alt accounts πŸ€” 

Also is bullying people ok on Hive πŸ€”

You are only making Hive look like a big scam



Why do you keep stalking me I'm not gay sorry I can't help you πŸ™πŸΎ

Just tell me what the issue is πŸ€”


You are that stupid you set up an account called letusbuyhive to downvote people and support your farming Hive friend's πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ and @buildawhale 

Please get some help πŸ™πŸΎ

It's clear who has mental health issues that's why you should really stop pointing fingers at others πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

It's clear blocktrades is behind this πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚





Can you please explain why you keep downvoting my original content I don't want to hear it's because disagreement of rewards I don't make any πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Please move on with your life blocktrades and leave me alone thank you πŸ™πŸΎ


Please tell everyone why you keep downvoting my original content πŸ€”


Still stalking me πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚



The way you are stalking me it's clear you have no Life outside of Hive πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Keep downvoting people away πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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@shanibeer · (edited)
Nice developments, thank you.

In one of your earlier posts about communities, you mentioned the feature of subscribers requiring approval by an admin or moderator to join the community. This would be a welcome development, so that if you had criteria for joining, you could apply them, and also have a joining process.

I was thinking about this for a reading and writing community where I was looking for high quality writers who were already skilled as storytellers - so they would have to indicate this by submitting two or three pieces of writing to the community team in order to join the community. At the same time, I wanted to have readers (and consumers/curators) who would be able to vote and comment but not create posts unless they had passed the threshold for that. (Substack is doing this very well now).

I think there are other questions about the pros and cons of whether non-subscribers could view, vote and comment on posts (unless muted). The benefits would be the potential for wider audiences, the disadvantages would be if subscribers wanted to use the community for organising and wished their information to remain within the community. I haven't resolved these questions for myself yet, I think they need wider discussion. I know there was some concern about the inleo subscriptions where some posts from an account would only be visible to (paying) subscribers but votable by anyone including automated votes and how that fitted with the overall concepts of Hive and the potential for abuse.

The other thing that I found frustrating when I was admin for a community was that I couldn't access the whole subscriber list through the front end. It would show me a limited number, and this would contain different accounts, seemingly randomly selected, each time I viewed (I was using peakd).It would be great to have better access to this and some management tools. For example, if you learned that 80% of your subscribers had joined in the past three months, community posts could be tailored to that.
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