you realize how much money i would have if i had an option to save half or even 25% of all my crypto from steem into BTC and then saved into a @telosnetwork T BOND locked for 5 years? shit i would have like multiple BTC godamnit and I ALWAYS WANTED a TYRUST FUND I COULD LOAD and NEVER withdraw time base dbut NO ONES got that really, unless they do im sure ethereum has that but gain its hard

theers no system to hold that shit except for T BONDS on telos which has a time lock NFT but youc an still SELL IT i need a way to LOCK IT 

HIVE POWER IS VERY CLOSE to what we want

I could make a hive engine token with 1 power down payment lol and 2 year or 10 year time lock lol 18 year trust fuind child time lock for mothers, thatd be somethin, load it up with hivepower toa HE token, and its locked

like POB with 5 to 10 year time lock NOW THATD be valuable, especially if it converted your shit to sdwap.BTC and that was secure, we can use PBTC on Telos, telos has it all man, telos has the ptokens.io eosfinex peg of BTC, PBTC https://ptokens.io

That might be possible, however, Hive was not built to run logic, just to save JAON objects, just recently we have managed, with great effort, to add, for example, the possibility to convert Hive into HBD, before only HBD could be converted into Hive. Because all witness must agree on JSON state changes, those changes are difficult.

Hive Engine is an attempt to add logic to Hive but it is prohibitive both in term of cost to deploy but also in terms of what can you do with it.

To do something like you said on another blockchain, like Ethereum, is relatively easy and straightforward, but on Hive? You gave to write smart contracts that are basically hard coded to Hive Engine.

I appreciate the effort to add logic to Hive but I totally dislike the way it is being done. 

Of course I couldn’t do better, I am right now doing some research on what could be done, and trying to learn how to get consensus and security when dealing with states on Hive, but I always stumble on the issue that Hive only stores states, and to get consensus would require an extra layer, just like Hive Engine….. It is frustrating to develop for Hive if you care about descentralization and security 

I don’t touch my Hive Engine tokens because they have no liquidity, Hive Engine has a very very long path to take both technically and economically, it might end up in a disaster but I am willing to hold them if the ship sinks because I see potential, just that the potential is hidden behind a huge technical deficit, like allowing anyone to easily deploy and run custom code, they say they plan to allow arbitrary code execution but so far no timeline or roadmap to get to that yet….