Learning to Receive - Basic Income sources - Can you let it in? by indigoocean

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money · @indigoocean · Mar 21 '18 (edited)

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Learning to Receive - Basic Income sources - Can you let it in?

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<p>Everyone says they wish they could win the lottery and just retire to do only things that are meaningful to them. They can say this because they know the chances are so low of it actually happening that their poverty consciousness beliefs about money aren't threatened one bit.&nbsp;</p>
<p>You know the beliefs I'm talking about. The ones you were taught as a child that say things like:</p>
<ul>
  <li>No pain no gain</li>
  <li>Hard work is the key to success (Tell that to the poor parent working 2 full-time jobs, but still on food stamps.)</li>
  <li>Suffering is a virtue</li>
  <li>The Devil makes work for idle hands</li>
  <li>If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it (meaning it isn't)</li>
</ul>
<p>I could go on and on like this. I'm sure you could contribute quite a few similar sayings you grew up hearing too. (Feel free to in the comments.)</p>
<p>In your experience, looking at the wealthiest people enjoying the greatest access to health, education, freedom and opportunity, would you say that they are people who have suffered their way into all that they have? Are they the hardest working?<br>
<br>
Now here and there you will find the new rich who made it building a tech empire with grueling hours and many years living on ramen noodles. But that's not how most rich people got rich. I know, because I was educated with the children of the truly rich, and I can tell you that most wealth is inherited. Period.&nbsp;</p>
<p>How convenient that the poor and middle class are taught that endless labor is a virtue and the secret to financial abundance, while the financially abundant are taught that labor is best as an interesting hobby. Some are expected to work hard enough in school to be able to succeed at challenging universities, and work of some sort, whether creating films, or investing in good companies, or some sort of political service, that is also expected of some. But for most, life is about keeping oneself entertained when you've done it all by the age of 15.<br>
<br>
I say all of this to make the point that there is absolutely no relationship whatsoever between how much you suffer on the weight of excessive labor and how much financial abundance you will enjoy in life. Idle people strike it rich. Idle people wind up homeless. Hard workers build successful businesses. Hard workers go bankrupt. Got it?</p>
<h2>About Receiving</h2>
<p>What I have been able to see as a consistent pattern, is that those who are good at receiving good things in life, do. And those who think they haven't earned it yet, don't.</p>
<p>So which bucket do you want to be in?</p>
<p>Which bucket ARE you in?</p>
<p>Sometimes we have to re-train ourselves, because we've been raised with belief systems that serve the elite by keeping the vast majority of people occupied with laboring endlessly to serve them. They want us thinking we deserve less than they do, that they are morally superior, so that we will fight to protect their wealth in their armies and not engage in civil unrest. Basically, "stay in our place."</p>
<p>But what is your true place?</p>
<p>Were you not born under the same sun as they were? Did your parents not work as hard? Did they not love you as much? Are you less loved by God?</p>
<p>Or maybe you don't believe in God. Maybe your "religion" is science. Is your DNA inferior to that of the child born to wealthy families?</p>
<p>Examine your conditioning that makes you suspect anything that sounds "to good to be true" and gravitate toward things that promise hard work and tough odds. Also examine anything that over-promises the way a ponzi or pyramid scheme does.&nbsp;</p>
<p>An odd thing about those raised with poverty consciousness is that they also gravitate toward that extreme! It's because poverty consciousness also teaches that since so much is against you, the only way you're going to make it is if you somehow "get over on someone." You need that inside tip. You need that opportunity that ultimately cheats someone, because you aren't worthy of well-being in your own right.</p>
<p>What is needed is simply a healthy and accurate assessment of your self-worth. You have intrinsic value. You deserve to live according to your highest principles AND live in financial abundance and ease. How about that? Can you let that in?</p>
<h2>A Couple of Things</h2>
<p>I love the idea of basic income (sometimes called UBI, GBI, MBI etc. for universal, guaranteed, minimum, etc.). It affirms the right of each person to basic sustenance like food and shelter if we are to call ourselves a civilization. I agree with that idea about what civilization is, and that I want to be a part of one. So I believe in the assurance of these minimal requirements for survival. I don't think any child especially should be denied these things, regardless of any qualities about their parents. A child is not the property of his/her parents. They are a part of our civilization, and we all have an equal stake in their healthy development for the well-being of our civilization.</p>
<p>The problem I usually have with basic income programs is that I just can't make the math work to be sustainable. They always seem to rely on some government extracting taxes from labor to redistribute regardless of absence or presence of labor. Still the completely wrong idea. The idea is to decouple sustenance from labor completely!</p>
<p>But then how do you "pay" for it? How do you get the resources to give this food and shelter to all? And then there's also education and healthcare, most civilizations consider these also important for the thriving of the civilization. So how?</p>
<p>I don't have a complete answer to this at a global level, but I do see some really good progress happening in the crypto space. Here are just a couple possibilities available to you this very minute.</p>
<h2>Mannabase</h2>
<p>The simplest form of UBI is to ask for free coins and be given free coins. That's how it works with Manna. You do have to provide your contact information to verify you're a real person. So it's a 3-step process:</p>
<ol>
  <li>Sign up with your email address at <a href="https://www.mannabase.com/?ref=8cceb02774">Mannabase Signup</a></li>
  <li>Verify your email address in your inbox to login and go to the dashboard</li>
  <li>Within the dashboard, enter your mailing address to verify you're a real person</li>
</ol>
<p>That's it. After you do that, every week you'll receive free Manna coins. The coins are traded on exchanges also, and right now are valued at $0.02. The value can of course go up or down like any crypto. You can also trade Manna with other Manna holders for goods or services. The internal exchange feature is being developed still. I signed up a few weeks ago, and the weekly payouts come like clockwork. And when the internal exchange feature is developed, I would definitely be willing to trade for goods and services, in either direction.&nbsp;</p>
<h2>Steem Basic Income</h2>
<p>Another cool basic income program based in crypto is SBI. In this case you have to do a little more than with Mannabase. You can read all the details in <a href="https://steemit.com/basicincome/@steembasicincome/steem-basic-income-a-complete-overview">this post</a> from the founders, but in a nutshell:</p>
<ul>
  <li>You send 1 STEEM to @steembasicincome on behalf of someone else you put in the memo</li>
  <li>This gets both them and you one share in the pool each</li>
  <li>Thereafter you will each receive an upvote on each of your posts</li>
  <li>How much the upvote will be worth will depend on several factors, such as how often you post, whether you upvote the posts from SBI, whether you delegate any SP to the overall pool, etc.</li>
  <li>You can buy up to 100 shares in any one pool by sponsoring up to 100 people getting SBI</li>
</ul>
<p>Now this one can sound a bit like a ponzi, so I suggest you read that overview post with the details I linked above. It goes over all the math way better than I could. Essentially it is actually a diminishing returns situation, so they have to counteract the dilution of voting strength as new members join by buying delegated SP to try to at least stay even. And they have to cap the number of members per pool.</p>
<h2>Are You Going to Try One or Both?</h2>
<p>So here's the defining moment. Are you willing to give one of these a try?&nbsp;</p>
<p>With <a href="https://steemit.com/@steembasicincome">SBI</a>, you do have to sponsor someone with a 1 STEEM initial contribution, so maybe that one has too high a barrier of entry for you. That's about $2 right now, and maybe even a lifetime of upvotes for you and a friend here on Steemit just isn't worth $2 to you. I think it's a great deal, but I'm already investing in my future income on this platform by buying STEEM, so it's an easy yes for me.</p>
<p>If not SBI, then certainly <a href="https://www.mannabase.com/?ref=8cceb02774">Mannabase</a> should be worth your taking the time to sign up.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Now recent events with Facebook may have you a little extra cautious about the idea of giving anyone your contact information, but let's be real. How often are you already giving that out to get not much of anything in return? And it's not your birthday, friends list, buying habits, etc. like with the FB fiasco. It's not much more than what it takes to download one of those free PDFs when joining some mailing list.... Only they don't seem to email much. And they definitely don't send postal mail. That's the verification method; no KYC documents required.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well, the ball is in your court right now. If you don't do either of these programs, I hope you'll find one that you will do.&nbsp;</p>
<p>I hope you can get to practice allowing yourself to receive without feeling you have to first earn it through hard labor and sacrifice. Or through ripping someone else off to get ahead yourself.&nbsp;</p>
<p>I invite you to join me in the world of win-win situations, where we rise together, and get to play and exchange with each other with no one needing to lose. I give to you. You give to me. We each receive. And around and around it goes. Sound like fun?</p>
<p><img src="https://steemitimages.com/DQmab2MbcyiBvPFEZteDGeDpV3F1zwWaHaGcnQoVYqdN6En/gratitude-2939972_1280.jpg" width="1280" height="989"/></p>
<p><em>(Photo source: </em><a href="https://pixabay.com/en/gratitude-thanks-appreciation-card-2939972/"><em>Pixabay</em></a><em>)</em></p>
<p>Here are some other articles of mine that you might enjoy:</p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://steemit.com/life/@indigoocean/what-if-nothing-has-gone-wrong">What if nothing has gone wrong?</a>&nbsp;</li>
  <li><a href="https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@indigoocean/want-to-hodl-your-crypto-and-spend-the-cash-nexo2018">Want to HODL your crypto AND spend the cash?</a>&nbsp;</li>
  <li><a href="https://steemit.com/life/@indigoocean/offering-the-gift-the-world-needs-to-receive">Offering the Gift The World Needs to Receive</a></li>
</ul>
<p><em>Resteems always appreciated!</em></p>
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@artgirl · Mar 28 '18

Ok, now I finally understand how SBI works, still need to check Mannabase. I've seen it before but didn't sign up yet.

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@indigoocean · Mar 28 '18

Mannabase is probably the most solid UBI crypto project out there. They just need to get their internal market going. But it is already traded on exchanges for USD, so the sooner you sign up, the sooner you'll start accumulating airdropped coins! This isn't one to sleep on.

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Well, since I am a CAT, I basically leave the working to you Humans! Cats are also really good at receiving. I think my Human is involved in both the Manna project and SBI. You guys are going to need *something* because what you think of as "jobs" will gradually vanish over the next 50 years. Anyway, interesting information you've assembled here!

=^..^=

👍 indigoocean

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@indigoocean · Mar 22 '18

😂

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@epearson · Mar 23 '18

No, it doesn't sound like a ponzi scheme to me at least.  I did signup at Mannabase. Thanks for sharing.  Do you know any places that accept Mannacoins for purchases?  I didn't find anything in my search.

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@indigoocean · Mar 23 '18

They haven't started their exchange yet. It will be an internal exchange. Once you are in the dashboard you'll see the buttons for it, but they are greyed out.

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@epearson · Mar 23 '18

I see.  Thanks.

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@kundanchhabra · Mar 31 '18

This is great! Thank you!

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@lavanyalakshman · Mar 23 '18

Yes i know about sbi it give 0.1 sbd upvote daily for my post,i dont know about manna,from today onwards i use manna also.Thanks for sharing good informatiin.

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@indigoocean · Mar 23 '18

You're welcome!

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@ligayagardener · Mar 23 '18

Nice article. We do need to decouple the ideas of work, wealth and happiness. Im working hard on that myself...

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@indigoocean · Mar 23 '18

Well I'm adding my intentions to yours. May it be so.

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@minnowsupport · Mar 21 '18

<p>Congratulations!  This post has been upvoted from the communal account, @minnowsupport, by indigo from the Minnow Support Project. It's a witness project run by aggroed, ausbitbank, teamsteem, theprophet0, someguy123, neoxian, followbtcnews, and netuoso. The goal is to help Steemit grow by supporting Minnows.  Please find us at the <a href="https://discord.gg/HYj4yvw"> Peace, Abundance, and Liberty Network (PALnet) Discord Channel</a>.  It's a completely public and open space to all members of the Steemit community who voluntarily choose to be there.</p> <p>If you would like to delegate to the Minnow Support Project you can do so by clicking on the following links: <a href="https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=&amp;delegatee=minnowsupport&amp;vesting_shares=102530.639667%20VESTS">50SP</a>, <a href="https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=&amp;delegatee=minnowsupport&amp;vesting_shares=205303.639667%20VESTS">100SP</a>, <a href="https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=&amp;delegatee=minnowsupport&amp;vesting_shares=514303.639667%20VESTS">250SP</a>, <a href="https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=&amp;delegatee=minnowsupport&amp;vesting_shares=1025303.639667%20VESTS">500SP</a>, <a href="https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=&amp;delegatee=minnowsupport&amp;vesting_shares=2053030.639667%20VESTS">1000SP</a>, <a href="https://v2.steemconnect.com/sign/delegateVestingShares?delegator=&amp;delegatee=minnowsupport&amp;vesting_shares=10253030.639667%20VESTS">5000SP</a>. <br><strong>Be sure to leave at least 50SP undelegated on your account.</strong></p>

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@indigoocean · Mar 21 '18

Thank you so much! 🙂

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@mountainjewel · Mar 21 '18

beautiful post dear! you're bring the Truth lately! love it! i resonate with so much of what you've said here. we need to keep affirming these things so we get out of *the place the elite have designated for humanity* and start taking care of one another. these two sources are great ways to do that! i have heard of manna over and over and will check it out (finally!) per your suggestion and am in SBI thanks to kind people sending it my way- though i haven't personally signed up. i also find being a member/delegating to @qurator is a great way to get a hefty upvote daily. any way i can make passive income on here is great! taking care of our future selves :) <3

👍 indigoocean

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@indigoocean · Mar 21 '18

Thanks for stopping by. I love the way you phrase it as taking care of one another. That is what it's all about, isn't it? They want to divide us so that we fight each other to see who can best win their scraps. If we stop doing that and start supporting each other instead, who will serve their interests? Of course, there will still be people who do, because realistically not everyone is ready for this level of mental freedom. But we have to keep spreading the word to help each other get ready. (Glad to hear I may have helped get you ready for Manna 😀)

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@truthtellerhere · Mar 22 '18

So if I sign up for Manna, how many coins can I expect per day? :D 

Qurator, as already mentioned by @mountainjewel,  is worth checking out. Oh wait, [Kryptonia](https://kryptonia.io/?ref=ZR2P3KJNGD) is infinitely awesome. There you get Superior Coins by performing tasks, like tweeting, Facebook commenting, Steemit upvote and commenting, etc. It's kinda fun.

👍 indigoocean

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@mumma-monza · Mar 24 '18

I love how this was easy to understand and full of great advice. Heading over to Mannabase now to check it out! Thanks for sharing your knowledge for newbies like myself :0

👍 indigoocean

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@indigoocean · Mar 24 '18

Glad it was helpful.

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@nellita66 · Mar 26 '18

Hola @indigoocean tienes alguna sugerencia sobre a quien patrocinar
 en SBI?

👍 indigoocean

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@indigoocean · Mar 28 '18

It doesn't translate comments for me, so I can't read this 😕

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@powellx5 · Mar 22 '18

I'm participating in both Mannabase and @steembasicincome. I've also signed up for Swift Demand. It doesn't have any value yet, but you get 100 coins a day and there is a shop on their site that you can use the coins to buy goods and services from other users, and you can sell goods and services for the coin. Itcs worth checking out. [Here's my referral link](https://www.swiftdemand.com/?referred_by=powellx5).

I also use presearch for web searches, and earn their coin for every search I do. I don't think it has any value yet either, but I'm going to search anyway, so I might as well use presearch, just in case. ☺

👍 indigoocean

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@indigoocean · Mar 22 '18

Swift sounds awesome, like a daily version of what Manna is doing weekly, only sounds like the shop is active already. I'll check it out for sure. Thanks for stopping by.

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@shredz7 · Mar 21 '18

Nice article! It seems like cryptocurrencies are the way to go for basic income, especially Steem where money can keep paying out over time, requiring only a single initial payment.

The US dollar inflates at a rate of 2% per year, on average. Think if this 2% was spread equally among all people, providing for basic necessities and helping them out of financial problems. And plus, the dollar would inflate as normal, and there would be no financial crisis due to high inflation!

The problem with UBI cryptocurrencies is adoption.

Manna has to be used for transactions, all inside the platform for it to succeed. It needs to stop people from selling and lowering the price, and even convince people to buy it.

Have you heard of [circles?](https://joincircles.net/) I think it does basic income really well, in a very innovative way.

I'm definitely upvoting and following you!
@shredz7

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@indigoocean · Mar 21 '18

Thanks so much for your informative comment. I hadn't heard of circles but will check it out now. 

Yes, I think crypto provides the greatest likelihood for UBI succeeding, and Manna does need to start getting used. But their tech isn't quite developed to that point yet, so I'll be patient. We Steemit users have gotten spoiled, having an actual platform for our trade of STEEM. No other crypto is actually functioning as a platform right now, that I know of. Everything is a promise. Except I guess Ethereum, which so many ICOs are using for their smart contracts as ERC20 tokens.

👍 shredz7

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@skiesandsports · Mar 22 '18

I totally agree as far as basic income goes, everyone should be entitled to a basic sustenance and there are countries that have proven this model can work. To afford the luxuries there has to be some extra income but not everyone wants or needs luxuries! Personally I can't see how - without radical change - we're not going to see the divide between the rich and poor grow exponentially over the coming decades just as it has in the last few!

👍 indigoocean

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@indigoocean · Mar 22 '18

Yes, we have to start trying new ideas. Crypto in general is a game changing idea, and UBI in crypto may turn out to be a huge element in turning the tide. If we can build economies of scale with it, we'll prove what can be done. Just last night I signed up to offer a recorded service for payment in a UBI token. (Though that one isn't literally crypto yet and it still working on its blockchain.) I'm really excited to see where we all are a year from now.

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@whatamidoing · Mar 24 '18 (edited)

I think UBI is a noble pursuit, I don’t see how the idea thatnwe need to work hard to survive makes much sense given where we are at as a species and competition always has losers so if want to be humanitarian about it , competition should be an optional pursuit for luxery only.

The problem I see with UBI is that in what most people call a “free market”, it will most certainly lead to inflation and fail to solve the problem as landlords and producers will know people have more to spend. You’d need to compensate for that with rent control and standardizing the price of food, health care, and basic needs. I’m ok with all that because I believe that if everyone could have it, everyone should have it, and I don’t believe a free market is the most telling factor when assesing how free a society’s is, but many people do.

Perhaps if we can move into thinking in abundance, we can find a way to make it work.

👍 indigoocean

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@indigoocean · Mar 24 '18

I've always had the same objection, that if everyone had $1k more per month, within a few years everything would just inflate in price to the point that life caused $1k more per month to live. I've had UBI folks try to break down the math for me again and again, but it never makes sense to me. No matter what you do with the math in terms of how you fund it, you can't account for this market rebalancing that is inevitable, unless you mandate fixed pricing. That might work someplaces with socialist economic systems, but for me here in the US I'm not seeing that happening anytime soon. 

But once you introduce crypto into the situation you've got a different dynamic. That's because it isn't really going to be universal. Really, some people will sign up and some people will assume that if it is free it's a scam or at best a pie in the sky dream. They only trust fiat currency. So it won't be everyone. Meanwhile, in terms of funding it, well so long as the coin is traded on exchanges you can have investor speculation set a value relative to other currencies, including but not limited to fiat. As soon as you have the ability to trade in and out of the coin, but you don't have to wait for a government to issue it, you have a sustainable model. Then you just have to get people to use it enough so that investors consider it to have value.

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@yadah04 · Mar 22 '18

Question about SBI, if I would invest in it, i should be able to see their upvotes (with the username @steembasicincome) on my posts? Is that right?

👍 indigoocean

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@indigoocean · Mar 22 '18 (edited)

Yes. It seems each share is worth about .02 at current steem rates.(Had to edit that because I see I just got my first upvote from them.)

👍 yadah04

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@yadah04 · Mar 22 '18

Ok, thanks. 
Pardon me for my query. But After being able to send an amount to SBI, is there anything I should do? Like to confirm it or to have myself enrolled? I have won SBI, but haven’t seen SBI curating any of my posts yet. I wonder why.

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@yogajill · Mar 22 '18

Yes!! Yes!!! Love this piece you've put together so well 💖 let's take good care of one another! Heck YES! Great stuff. I have been blessed the gift of sbi and did sign-up for manna too! It's good of you to put this together 🍎

👍 indigoocean

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@indigoocean · Mar 22 '18

❤️

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@tonymullins · Mar 22 '18

I've already done both and also do swiftdemand

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