I believe setting a `max payout` will lead to less bot impact, in the short term, until bot authors adapt, that is. At the moment, the UI only supports *Decline Payout*, apart from the default. But for certain types of posts, I've been trying out a `max payout` of 99ยข. It occurs to me, if this was a widespread practice, it might cause an issue to automated curation logic. This is because, if the `max payout` is set small enough, curation rewards are practically the same outcome as *Decline Payout* (zero curation rewards), and thus yields no direct benefit for the curator. Of course, it's pretty simple to do a work-around, but it requires resources and effort. This is because in order for a bot to know an author has set a `max payout`, the bot must request the full post or at least the related `comment_options` operation. In other words, a bot cannot just stream posts and blindly vote. The practice of setting a `max payout` adds *technical debt*. Well written bots probably already gather more information, so this is just an additional condition. Currently, [Dr. Phil](https://gist.github.com/inertia186/61bcc2b821aa5acb24f7fc88921950c7) only looks for *Decline Payout*. Since the steemit.com UI doesn't offer additional options, there isn't much impact at the moment. #### Technical Debt <div class="pull-right"> <img src="http://i.imgur.com/qLXThFr.jpg" /> </div> The more hoops we make bots jump through, the better. As these kinds of conditions continue to grow, bot maintainers must add logic and conditions to deal with them. Over time, depending on how well the logic is implemented, it will become more difficult to maintain. Bot authors might not always document why a particular condition exists. Months or years later, this adds to the difficulty in maintaining the bot. The upshot is that when the difficulty for maintaining bots gets higher, manual curation naturally gains the advantage over the long term.
author | inertia |
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permlink | more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact |
category | steemit |
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created | 2017-05-09 16:45:54 |
last_update | 2017-05-09 16:45:54 |
depth | 0 |
children | 16 |
last_payout | 2017-05-16 16:45:54 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 8.576 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 1.149 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 1,955 |
author_reputation | 346,568,901,399,561 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,282,286 |
net_rshares | 4,936,292,099,128 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
pharesim | 0 | 721,339,675,661 | 8% | ||
sandra | 0 | 23,352,666,162 | 70% | ||
ihashfury | 0 | 13,533,454,264 | 48.3% | ||
boy | 0 | 3,872,704,184 | 100% | ||
bue-witness | 0 | 4,722,108,746 | 100% | ||
bunny | 0 | 702,823,016 | 100% | ||
bue | 0 | 77,261,106,012 | 100% | ||
mini | 0 | 2,069,896,108 | 100% | ||
moon | 0 | 263,173,280 | 100% | ||
jason | 0 | 21,086,142,207 | 48.3% | ||
pheonike | 0 | 10,152,878,927 | 6% | ||
healthcare | 0 | 771,387,276 | 100% | ||
daniel.pan | 0 | 1,220,352,756 | 100% | ||
helen.tan | 0 | 352,793,313 | 100% | ||
makishart | 0 | 15,158,058,437 | 85% | ||
carlos-cabeza | 0 | 1,028,416,999 | 100% | ||
joelinux | 0 | 17,636,609,832 | 100% | ||
germanaure | 0 | 2,421,286,914 | 100% | ||
teamsteem | 0 | 425,009,919,298 | 100% | ||
pal | 0 | 219,938,557,355 | 60% | ||
lola-carola | 0 | 308,266,100 | 20% | ||
avarice | 0 | 64,135,849,415 | 100% | ||
applecrisp | 0 | 53,292,082 | 20% | ||
samether | 0 | 2,740,389,903 | 100% | ||
proglobyte | 0 | 2,101,281,528 | 100% | ||
raphaelom | 0 | 733,932,013 | 100% | ||
crok | 0 | 5,331,721,697 | 100% | ||
michaellamden68 | 0 | 1,527,992,704 | 100% | ||
robrigo | 0 | 394,175,137,990 | 100% | ||
furion | 0 | 48,010,706,427 | 5% | ||
busser | 0 | 16,012,471,243 | 100% | ||
vi1son | 0 | 36,564,001,094 | 100% | ||
ardina | 0 | 1,929,517,575 | 100% | ||
speda | 0 | 70,719,262,899 | 100% | ||
inertia | 0 | 266,175,240,566 | 100% | ||
fiveboringgames | 0 | 13,392,914,366 | 100% | ||
coininstant | 0 | 21,702,993,000 | 100% | ||
ubg | 0 | 383,834,484,767 | 100% | ||
greenman | 0 | 488,624,425,238 | 100% | ||
pipokinha | 0 | 10,161,676,450 | 100% | ||
alexpmorris | 0 | 14,824,427,195 | 100% | ||
craigslist | 0 | 521,957,338 | 100% | ||
tingaling | 0 | 2,079,836,535 | 100% | ||
transhuman | 0 | 3,534,627,448 | 44% | ||
letc | 0 | 1,767,336,412 | 100% | ||
germansailor | 0 | 4,611,893,874 | 100% | ||
kurtbeil | 0 | 143,483,922,786 | 100% | ||
dolov | 0 | 430,347,509 | 6% | ||
lordvader | 0 | 113,253,974,206 | 100% | ||
zentat | 0 | 4,119,721,033 | 100% | ||
ioc | 0 | 249,832,973,027 | 100% | ||
virtualgrowth | 0 | 10,157,449,882 | 30% | ||
lamech-m | 0 | 3,991,247,327 | 100% | ||
jyp | 0 | 231,470,227,765 | 100% | ||
sethlinson | 0 | 2,190,741,766 | 16% | ||
hilarski | 0 | 37,530,219,932 | 20% | ||
steemitpatina | 0 | 5,470,058,657 | 25% | ||
steembriefing | 0 | 2,414,957,015 | 100% | ||
runridefly | 0 | 6,996,762,524 | 7% | ||
titusfrost | 0 | 26,792,339,036 | 100% | ||
betamusic | 0 | 36,447,918,251 | 100% | ||
profitgenerator | 0 | 27,251,639,712 | 100% | ||
maarnio | 0 | 8,952,074,331 | 100% | ||
jacobts | 0 | 12,619,376,415 | 100% | ||
jonathanyoung | 0 | 23,548,251,756 | 100% | ||
jsg | 0 | 17,816,959,244 | 100% | ||
patelincho | 0 | 1,545,247,414 | 25% | ||
bitcoinparadise | 0 | 7,444,432,114 | 100% | ||
whatsup | 0 | 71,323,269,021 | 100% | ||
bestofreddit | 0 | 2,155,129,627 | 90% | ||
thegame | 0 | 521,747,958 | 10% | ||
steembets | 0 | 633,352,347 | 10% | ||
dodders007 | 0 | 19,680,372,317 | 100% | ||
steemint | 0 | 2,161,895,070 | 100% | ||
siniceku | 0 | 4,057,498,288 | 100% | ||
abudar | 0 | 7,887,719,550 | 100% | ||
mitchelljaworski | 0 | 11,992,075,225 | 100% | ||
steemsports | 0 | 3,740,203,627 | 4% | ||
steem-meme | 0 | 1,783,255,317 | 20% | ||
sunscape | 0 | 10,169,415,651 | 20% | ||
steemland.com | 0 | 531,204,775 | 10% | ||
angel76 | 0 | 8,262,805,718 | 100% | ||
sqube | 0 | 62,778,967,977 | 100% | ||
cathynsons | 0 | 7,748,226,103 | 100% | ||
sthumacher | 0 | 1,984,145,100 | 100% | ||
crowdfundedwhale | 0 | 34,314,071,492 | 65% | ||
trans-juanmi | 0 | 4,662,143,438 | 60% | ||
breezin | 0 | 1,444,795,615 | 100% | ||
gutzofter | 0 | 72,941,954,615 | 100% | ||
steemprentice | 0 | 14,311,843,603 | 30% | ||
seablue | 0 | 44,500,350,828 | 100% | ||
cryptofreedom | 0 | 16,454,152,248 | 100% | ||
soushi888 | 0 | 7,866,295,279 | 100% | ||
juliosalas | 0 | 669,950,660 | 60% | ||
tamersameeh | 0 | 341,123,656 | 100% | ||
mathworksheets | 0 | 1,236,229,203 | 100% | ||
personz | 0 | 34,598,053,944 | 100% | ||
darth-azrael | 0 | 1,879,888,091 | 33% | ||
steemcenterwiki | 0 | 897,452,791 | 100% | ||
riskdebonair | 0 | 24,046,407,964 | 100% | ||
firesteem | 0 | 520,451,492 | 100% | ||
ogochukwu | 0 | 4,826,343,961 | 100% | ||
tonylondon | 0 | 634,402,256 | 100% | ||
honusurf | 0 | 8,452,390,291 | 100% | ||
filotasriza3 | 0 | 11,283,392,263 | 100% | ||
evildeathcore | 0 | 1,466,740,726 | 100% | ||
bedroomshaman | 0 | 1,231,256,836 | 100% | ||
akela | 0 | 2,516,948,880 | 100% | ||
elviento | 0 | 2,348,454,529 | 100% | ||
photowebgear | 0 | 965,293,100 | 100% | ||
illuminated | 0 | 8,045,095,292 | 100% | ||
avilsd | 0 | 18,825,276,503 | 100% | ||
radlerjan | 0 | 554,750,531 | 100% | ||
aismor | 0 | 543,680,502 | 100% | ||
the50 | 0 | 4,340,317,054 | 100% | ||
malake | 0 | 930,819,506 | 100% |
> Who trusted God was love indeed And love Creation's final law Tho' Nature, red in tooth and claw With ravine, shriek'd against his creed Alfred Lord Tennyson
author | gutzofter |
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permlink | re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170509t182036450z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-09 18:20:36 |
last_update | 2017-05-09 18:20:36 |
depth | 1 |
children | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-05-16 18:20:36 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.234 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.005 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 160 |
author_reputation | 7,621,537,677,018 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,284,178 |
net_rshares | 255,923,690,254 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
raphaelom | 0 | 733,932,013 | 100% | ||
inertia | 0 | 254,848,634,585 | 100% | ||
tamersameeh | 0 | 341,123,656 | 100% |
When you vote for a post with a max payout, and the post has already hit that max payout amount, is your vote power still impacted?
author | kurtbeil |
---|---|
permlink | re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170510t031959207z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-10 03:20:00 |
last_update | 2017-05-10 03:20:00 |
depth | 1 |
children | 1 |
last_payout | 2017-05-17 03:20:00 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.115 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.032 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 131 |
author_reputation | 25,700,831,936,873 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,292,858 |
net_rshares | 159,354,841,025 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
proglobyte | 0 | 2,017,230,266 | 100% | ||
proglobyte-m1 | 0 | 1,953,049,100 | 100% | ||
tingaling | 0 | 2,038,239,805 | 100% | ||
kurtbeil | 0 | 139,342,413,663 | 100% | ||
zentat | 0 | 4,291,054,527 | 100% | ||
steembriefing | 0 | 2,316,387,341 | 100% | ||
steemint | 0 | 2,202,737,860 | 100% | ||
free2play | 0 | 1,200,493,631 | 100% | ||
the50 | 0 | 3,993,234,832 | 100% |
author | inertia |
---|---|
permlink | re-kurtbeil-re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170510t032205067z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-10 03:22:06 |
last_update | 2017-05-10 03:22:06 |
depth | 2 |
children | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-05-17 03:22:06 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.128 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.004 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 44 |
author_reputation | 346,568,901,399,561 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,292,888 |
net_rshares | 143,414,790,846 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
kurtbeil | 0 | 135,043,692,034 | 100% | ||
zentat | 0 | 4,291,054,527 | 100% | ||
the50 | 0 | 4,080,044,285 | 100% |
How you see the top erners to set limit ?
author | patelincho |
---|---|
permlink | re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170509t165308141z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-09 17:00:30 |
last_update | 2017-05-09 17:00:30 |
depth | 1 |
children | 4 |
last_payout | 2017-05-16 17:00:30 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.220 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.023 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 41 |
author_reputation | 52,897,220,193,484 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,282,647 |
net_rshares | 261,586,993,244 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
raphaelom | 0 | 733,932,013 | 100% | ||
inertia | 0 | 260,511,937,575 | 100% | ||
tamersameeh | 0 | 341,123,656 | 100% |
In the current UI, they cannot set a limit apart from *Decline Payout*. One thing top earners could do with the current UI is just select *Decline Payout* from time to time, to be polite. But I can understand their reluctance to do that.
author | inertia |
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permlink | re-patelincho-re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170509t170342525z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-09 17:03:42 |
last_update | 2017-05-09 17:03:42 |
depth | 2 |
children | 3 |
last_payout | 2017-05-16 17:03:42 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.085 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.028 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 239 |
author_reputation | 346,568,901,399,561 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,282,727 |
net_rshares | 126,603,461,281 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
kurtbeil | 0 | 126,603,461,281 | 100% |
So how is Steemian in comparison to SteemVotes.com ? Just curious.
author | ceenoevil |
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permlink | re-inertia-re-patelincho-re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170730t065655810z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-07-30 06:56:57 |
last_update | 2017-07-30 06:56:57 |
depth | 3 |
children | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-08-06 06:56:57 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 66 |
author_reputation | 57,327,158,630 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 10,193,398 |
net_rshares | 0 |
I can undarstand this also most of us is here to earn something :) Is not easy to set up how much your work is wort .
author | patelincho |
---|---|
permlink | re-inertia-re-patelincho-re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170509t170138374z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-09 17:09:00 |
last_update | 2017-05-09 17:09:00 |
depth | 3 |
children | 1 |
last_payout | 2017-05-16 17:09:00 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.237 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.006 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 119 |
author_reputation | 52,897,220,193,484 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,282,837 |
net_rshares | 260,511,937,575 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
inertia | 0 | 260,511,937,575 | 100% |
> The practice of setting a max payout adds technical debt. It's not really technical debt if the solution is well thought out and the programmers do not cut lots of corners. What you're describing is the potential for unseen complexity, i.e. incomplete requirements, where "requirements" are the set of things the software solution is required to implement or address. As the conditions grow, the problem changes and a different solution may be required. That's one of the challenges of operating in a dynamic and complex environment with poor documentation of the underlying system (code as docs ๐). Another way of looking at this is as an incomplete testing problem. For all tested inputs, the software should be act in a verifiably correct way. In the case you describe here, we're missing a test for a range of inputs on each post. In particular, I don't want readers unfamiliar with the term "technical debt" to think it means the cost incurred by a changing system, or by having to make more API requests. Side note: My own bot by the way does fetch each individual post as it potentially a lot of analysis on their content and extended metadata.
author | personz |
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permlink | re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170510t161211666z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-10 16:12:12 |
last_update | 2017-05-10 16:12:12 |
depth | 1 |
children | 1 |
last_payout | 2017-05-17 16:12:12 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 1,158 |
author_reputation | 42,452,361,038,560 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,306,465 |
net_rshares | 0 |
I agree, 100% that technical debt is not complexity. But I think the approach to complexity is often to cut corners. I'll give you an example of why I classify it as technical debt. Often, bots determine if a `comment` operation is a post or reply by checking to see if `permlink` has `re-` at the beginning. But the "official" way is to check if there `parent_author` is blank. Are they cutting corners? In a way, yes. They didn't (or couldn't) imagine a scenario where a post reply would lack `re-`. So the question is, did the bot author really cut corners? One opinion is yes, they did cut corners because they did not read `steemd` source to see how the blockchain determines if a `comment` is a post or reply (code as docs). Another opinion is no, they did not cut corners because they should not be expected to read `steemd` source. So I simplify it to "they knew or should have known" and therefore incurred technical debt. I'm completely open to the idea that I'm wrong about that opinion.
author | inertia |
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permlink | re-personz-re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170510t162923644z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-10 16:29:21 |
last_update | 2017-05-10 16:29:21 |
depth | 2 |
children | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-05-17 16:29:21 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 1,010 |
author_reputation | 346,568,901,399,561 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,306,790 |
net_rshares | 0 |
<p>This post has been ranked within the top 50 most undervalued posts in the second half of May 09. We estimate that this post is undervalued by $8.83 as compared to a scenario in which every voter had an equal say.</p> <p>See the full rankings and details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-may-09---part-ii">The Daily Tribune: May 09 - Part II</a>. You can also read about some of our methodology, data analysis and technical details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/introducing-the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-nov-04---part-i">our initial post</a>.</p> <p>If you are the author and would prefer not to receive these comments, simply reply "Stop" to this comment.</p>
author | screenname |
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permlink | re-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170510t012304 |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | "{"replyto": "@inertia/more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact"}" |
created | 2017-05-10 01:23:06 |
last_update | 2017-05-10 01:23:06 |
depth | 1 |
children | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-05-17 01:23:06 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 765 |
author_reputation | 46,276,338,038,330 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,291,244 |
net_rshares | 0 |
Thanks for sharing! A link to your post was included in the Steem.center wiki pages about [Bots](https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=Bots) and [DrPhil Bot](https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=DrPhil_Bot). Thanks and good luck again!
author | steemcenterwiki |
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permlink | re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170509t201637824z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"links":["https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=Bots","https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=DrPhil_Bot"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-09 20:16:39 |
last_update | 2017-05-09 20:16:51 |
depth | 1 |
children | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-05-16 20:16:39 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.243 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 242 |
author_reputation | 6,805,543,786,959 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,286,542 |
net_rshares | 261,556,412,743 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
raphaelom | 0 | 703,351,512 | 100% | ||
inertia | 0 | 260,511,937,575 | 100% | ||
tamersameeh | 0 | 341,123,656 | 100% |
Perhaps we should consider the idea of a STEEMwide maximum, to maintain pool health and eliminate the need for flagging to reduce rewards. Hmmm.. how does $100 bucks sound? (readies trash-can-lid-shield)
author | zentat |
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permlink | re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170510t032127150z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-10 03:21:30 |
last_update | 2017-05-10 03:21:30 |
depth | 1 |
children | 3 |
last_payout | 2017-05-17 03:21:30 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.128 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.003 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 205 |
author_reputation | 2,980,385,569,111 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,292,883 |
net_rshares | 141,537,805,970 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
kurtbeil | 0 | 135,043,692,034 | 100% | ||
zentat | 0 | 4,291,376,076 | 100% | ||
steemint | 0 | 2,202,737,860 | 100% |
Well, this adds to the one-size-fits-all problem we already have. I think it'd be better to have different layouts and suggested maximums for different types of posts. For example, posts that contain original content would have no maximum. Posts that are really just linking to external content should have a different maximum. Ideally, these suggested maximums should be defined by witness parameters.
author | inertia |
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permlink | re-zentat-re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170510t032510277z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-10 03:25:09 |
last_update | 2017-05-10 03:25:09 |
depth | 2 |
children | 1 |
last_payout | 2017-05-17 03:25:09 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.092 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.029 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 406 |
author_reputation | 346,568,901,399,561 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,292,922 |
net_rshares | 130,943,820,143 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
kurtbeil | 0 | 126,652,765,616 | 100% | ||
zentat | 0 | 4,291,054,527 | 100% |
I posted the following .. <a href="https://steemit.com/steem/@zentat/max-payouts-and-maintaining-a-healthy-rewards-pool">MAX Payouts & Maintaining a Healthy Rewards Pool</a>, referring to this post of yours - would love to know what you think.
author | zentat |
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permlink | re-inertia-re-zentat-re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170510t034750923z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"links":["https://steemit.com/steem/@zentat/max-payouts-and-maintaining-a-healthy-rewards-pool"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-10 03:47:51 |
last_update | 2017-05-10 03:47:51 |
depth | 3 |
children | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-05-17 03:47:51 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.117 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.003 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 243 |
author_reputation | 2,980,385,569,111 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,293,185 |
net_rshares | 130,894,837,357 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
kurtbeil | 0 | 126,603,461,281 | 100% | ||
zentat | 0 | 4,291,376,076 | 100% |
Interesting ..
author | steemint |
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permlink | re-zentat-re-inertia-more-max-payouts-less-bot-impact-20170510t032307945z |
category | steemit |
json_metadata | {"tags":["steemit"],"app":"steemit/0.1"} |
created | 2017-05-10 03:23:09 |
last_update | 2017-05-10 03:23:09 |
depth | 2 |
children | 0 |
last_payout | 2017-05-17 03:23:09 |
cashout_time | 1969-12-31 23:59:59 |
total_payout_value | 0.128 HBD |
curator_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
pending_payout_value | 0.000 HBD |
promoted | 0.000 HBD |
body_length | 14 |
author_reputation | 1,185,807,592,882 |
root_title | "More Max Payouts = Less Bot Impact" |
beneficiaries | [] |
max_accepted_payout | 1,000,000.000 HBD |
percent_hbd | 10,000 |
post_id | 3,292,900 |
net_rshares | 139,334,746,561 |
author_curate_reward | "" |
voter | weight | wgt% | rshares | pct | time |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
kurtbeil | 0 | 135,043,692,034 | 100% | ||
zentat | 0 | 4,291,054,527 | 100% | ||
steembriefing | 0 | 0 | 100% |