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· @jacobtothe ·
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[This article](https://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31/auditing-shooting-rampage-statistics/) is a decade old now, but the point stands:

> The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.29
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> The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.33
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> [...]
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> If you compare the average of people killed in shootings stopped by armed civilians and unarmed civilians you get 1.8 and 2.6 but that’s not nearly as significant as the difference between a proactive civilian, and a cowering civilian who waits for police.

I endorse the [Pink Pistols](https://www.pinkpistols.org/) and their mission to encourage the LGBTQ+ community to embrace self-defense. It also fosters more interaction between the "right-wing" gun community and the "left-wing" gay community instead of driving a political wedge between them.
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@coloneljethro ·
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While I find their methodology more than a little dubious I have little doubt about the point its making.  If for no other reason than the lesser amount of time they have to pull a trigger will keep the body counts lower.  I've always thought that run/hide/fight stuff they teach now had it completely backwards.

Did you watch the video of the Christchurch mosque shootings?  Several of them tried to stop him but it just wasn't enough.

I'd heard of the Pink Pistols but hadn't really read much about them until now.  There was apparently a chapter here at one point but it doesn't appear to be active now.  More self defense is never a bad thing!  As for those communities, I don't think assigning either to one wing or the other is or ever was accurate.  Still, I know what you mean, and more interaction and understanding between armed people is never a bad thing.  On a similar note, Redneck Revolt tried to do some outreach to the 3%ers a while back but I don't think they ever got through the cognitive dissonance. 

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@jacobtothe ·
I think the Threepers are mostly a lost cause, consisting of boomer fudds dedicated to a nostalgic fantasy of Constitutional supremacy, and when push comes to shove, they'll "back the blue." Maybe I'm being uncharitable.

As a discreetly-armed individual, I always know it's no guarantee of safety. It's just an extra option, and I need more range time to refine it in addition to all the other matters like maintaining situational awareness, practicing de-escalation, avoiding conflict where possible, and so forth. I think the run-hide-fight order of operations is generally sound, especially for those not armed or trained at all.
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