create account

RE: howo: AMAA (ask me almost anything) by jarvie

View this thread on: hive.blogpeakd.comecency.com

Viewing a response to: @howo/howo-amaa-ask-me-almost-anything

· @jarvie ·
$0.83
What else do we need to do to get closer to Patreon type feature set?

Also how would you go about approaching encryption for pay wall type content?

What are you favorite types of non hive development posts to find on here?
👍  
properties (23)
authorjarvie
permlinkre-howo-qt10uf
categoryama
json_metadata{"tags":["ama"],"app":"peakd/2021.04.5"}
created2021-05-13 03:39:33
last_update2021-05-13 03:39:33
depth1
children5
last_payout2021-05-20 03:39:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.414 HBD
curator_payout_value0.414 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length224
author_reputation351,528,688,008,475
root_title"howo: AMAA (ask me almost anything)"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id103,671,253
net_rshares1,586,113,252,297
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@howo ·
$1.54
> What else do we need to do to get closer to Patreon type feature set?

I think everything is there now (after hf25 I mean), we just need to build an app that leverages all of the core features. Paywall can be implemented as an L2 or even in a centralized manner in the first place.

Basically if we look at what patreon does: https://www.patreon.com/product/lite

hosted page where you can write updates etc => done that's hive
a wallet to get money => done
monthly subscriptions => recurrent payments 
collect emails etc => has to be centralized for privacy concerns but it's not that bad imo
analytics => can be done relatively easily
paywalled content => can be done in a centralized or l2 way

 
> Also how would you go about approaching encryption for pay wall type content?

That's a good question hmmm I think I would first make a centralized app, I think it's not that important to make it decentralized and have paywalled post shareable over multiple front ends, it's even better because it would drive traffic to your website which has a front end dedicated to that type of content, so the users will have a better experience. And it allows you to validate market need and market it first and then build a more complex version if needed. I would just encrypt the post and push them to the chain in their encrypted state, and then the front end would decrypt it when displaying it to users if they have a recurrent transfer active. 

Then if (and only if!) there is a need for multiple dapps to interact with the same paywalled content, it gets more complicated but you could imagine a way for front end to share the keys  it doesn't have to be trustless, there will only be a limited amount of actors making front ends anyways. And if this takes off, then we could spend the time figuring out the cryptography to make it native meaning there is no need for centralized key sharing. I'm not a cryptographer 
so I am not sure it's even possible but it would definitely be worthwhile to research.

> What are you favorite types of non hive development posts to find on here?

Hmmmmmm, I don't read a ton of non-development posts on hive haha, but lately I've enjoyed the work of @olebulls or for a more og, @fredrikaa's posts
👍  , , ,
properties (23)
authorhowo
permlinkre-jarvie-qt1pvm
categoryama
json_metadata{"tags":["ama"],"app":"peakd/2021.04.5"}
created2021-05-13 12:40:33
last_update2021-05-13 12:40:33
depth2
children4
last_payout2021-05-20 12:40:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.771 HBD
curator_payout_value0.770 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length2,235
author_reputation468,268,921,575,748
root_title"howo: AMAA (ask me almost anything)"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id103,677,919
net_rshares2,732,217,818,322
author_curate_reward""
vote details (4)
@jarvie ·
$0.35
Your list of what is left to be done is pretty accurate good to see we're on the same wave length. 

I would think that there could also be a good business opportunity for a company to setup a CC-fiat processor that either converts to create that re-current transaction OR the user would have to setup with them to get fiat payments. (Not as cool as free easy hive transactions)

-----------

I think there is a pretty simple pay-wall solution we are looking at. We would still love to see encryption have a decentralized nature even if not totally trust-less. Meaning this... that the content creator could trust the platform (peakd.com) with the **decryption** ability and then tell that platform who qualifies as being able to read the content. Obviously this means they'd identify their qualifications for who gets access.

I would hope the interfaces would work together to use this simple type protocol and work to be worthy of the trust of their content creators. And then they'd have to agree on an ENCRYPTION method to help their content creators implement in their content.

-------------

QUESTION:
Do you think that the hive community is going to be annoyed by encrypted posts? Or how much and in what cases do you think they'll be annoyed?
👍  
properties (23)
authorjarvie
permlinkre-howo-qt2bi9
categoryama
json_metadata{"tags":["ama"],"app":"peakd/2021.04.6"}
created2021-05-13 20:27:48
last_update2021-05-13 20:27:48
depth3
children1
last_payout2021-05-20 20:27:48
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.176 HBD
curator_payout_value0.176 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length1,252
author_reputation351,528,688,008,475
root_title"howo: AMAA (ask me almost anything)"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id103,685,946
net_rshares747,341,649,804
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@howo · (edited)
On the CC fiat processor I think it's mostly about regulation hurdles more than technical hurdles

> Do you think that the hive community is going to be annoyed by encrypted posts? Or how much and in what cases do you think they'll be annoyed?

I assume there will definitely be some downvotes sent here and there, but we could make it easier for everyone two-fold:

- encrypted posts instead of just being gibberish would display a neat "this post is locked, please visit the creator's support page to unlock it" 
- front ends could make it so that encrypted posts are with declined payout (which solves the issue with potential self vote farms)
properties (22)
authorhowo
permlinkre-jarvie-qt3pf9
categoryama
json_metadata{"tags":["ama"],"app":"peakd/2021.04.6"}
created2021-05-14 14:25:57
last_update2021-05-14 14:26:33
depth4
children0
last_payout2021-05-21 14:25:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length646
author_reputation468,268,921,575,748
root_title"howo: AMAA (ask me almost anything)"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id103,702,427
net_rshares0
@olebulls ·
Wonderful that you enjoy it @howo, we will keep up!
Really nice to see you take your time and elaborate on your answers, awesome spirit! 😎
properties (22)
authorolebulls
permlinkre-howo-qt23if
categoryama
json_metadata{"tags":["ama"],"app":"peakd/2021.04.6"}
created2021-05-13 17:27:57
last_update2021-05-13 17:27:57
depth3
children1
last_payout2021-05-20 17:27:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length139
author_reputation52,467,891,221,903
root_title"howo: AMAA (ask me almost anything)"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id103,682,829
net_rshares0
@howo ·
Haha thank you, what a bad AMA it would have been if I didn't take the time to reply.
properties (22)
authorhowo
permlinkre-olebulls-qt23ny
categoryama
json_metadata{"tags":["ama"],"app":"peakd/2021.04.6"}
created2021-05-13 17:38:21
last_update2021-05-13 17:38:21
depth4
children0
last_payout2021-05-20 17:38:21
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length85
author_reputation468,268,921,575,748
root_title"howo: AMAA (ask me almost anything)"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id103,682,988
net_rshares0