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Unchecking Upvote Post + Ending Self Upvoting! by jerrybanfield

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· @jerrybanfield ·
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Unchecking Upvote Post + Ending Self Upvoting!
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Why use all our voting power on others instead of upvoting our own posts?  I am unchecking the upvote post box starting today on my new posts and also am ending my practice of sometimes or often voting up my own comments because it feels like the right thing to do for my own happiness.

When I starting using Steemit in May, I was so excited about voting that naturally I voted up hundreds of my own comments just to try it out!  Burning my voting power all on myself left me feeling the same way I used to feel when having sex without a partner.  There is a line from a Kesha song that sums it up!

"Look who's all alone now."

With trying to make more posts everyday, I have not been feeling very good about burning up 6% of my daily voting power or about $45 a day voting my own posts up when we are kind enough here to already be voting the posts I makes up $200 to $1,000 a day.  Do I really need that additional $45 from my own votes or would I feel better about being able to give that out?

While it might look like I am trying to impress us with how generous and kind I am, the truth is just like the rest of us I want to feel good all day all the time except for occasionally when I honestly want to feel miserable and roll around in it for a while.  What I am learning is that every little action I take contributes to how I feel.  Almost all the feelings I do not like are traceable to small actions of selfishness.  To identify them I just need to notice when my feelings of joy slip into fear or anger or jealousy or doubt.  Whatever I did right before that is usually the source.

Last night when I read a comment about "Why does Jerry's post have $15 upvoted right when it is posted" I identified the feeling and made it worse by writing a defensive answer along the lines of "Well because Jerry is a big shot that invested 15 BTC into Steem and when you invest that much you can vote yourself up all day too."

After that answer I felt even worse because that is exactly the kind of jerk I hated most of my life and thankfully today I realize this is motivation to do something about it.  Ending self-upvoting forces even more faith because starting each post from $0.00 is a bit scary.  What if it stays there and earns as much as a post on Facebook?  At least with voting myself up, I know short of a total spam post that gets flagged I will earn $15+.

Finally, what if the founders of Steemit @ned and @dan took the same attitude I had up until last night about their posts?  With each of them having about 100 times as much Steem Power as I do, that means each of them could upvote every one of their posts $1,500 to $2,000 although technically that much of a vote might drop the value of the votes significantly.  Wouldn't they perfectly be within their rights to make several posts every day and rake in $5,000 to $10,000 a day off of their own upvotes?  I noticed that on @dan's recent post about EOS he declined payout and on the one before that he did not upvote it.  @ned also declines payouts on this posts.

If the founders of Steemit choose with their example to not upvote their own posts and trust the community either to create the payout or decline payout, is not this probably the right answer for me too?  The first argument here likely is "well they have lots of money while you, we, me, and I do not.  We need every dollar we can get."  Ironically I have learned the more generous I am, the more I will tend to be given by the world.  The attitude of "I do not have enough money and therefore need to hustle for every dollar I can get" is the same attitude that left me without the ability to ever feel financially secure and to then waste any good fortune that came my way.  Maybe I will upgrade to declining a payout all together one day ...

Until then, I am going to give out all of my voting power to someone besides me in the same imperfect and awkward way I have been doing it so far.  Thank you for reading this and I hope it was helpful for you!

Would you upvote this post if you support giving up our rights to upvote ourselves because the more readers see this, the more we can collaborate with our voting power?

Love,
Jerry Banfield
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@abdelilahelkati ·
Welcome the worlds best community !!!!

From now on you are on the green path to implement your kindness to everyone, hope you include the lucky people here.

Do not hesitate to share interesting and useful things. Good luck!!!

Greetings from me ** @abdelilahelkati **
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@aci7 ·
Thank you for this article and many others. I still try to figure out how is working everything about upvoting, steem power and so on. ;)
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@aggroed ·
I think in the long run it's better ot save the power for others.  Self up voting isn't super sustainable liek friends, resteems, upvotes, etc are from other people.  You can self upvote yourself into double your steem power in 180 days.  I actually think that's kinda slow compared to spending your time helping others and getting comped for that!
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@agsupun ·
Newbies like me don't have a choice other than upvoting their own posts so at least there might be a slighter chance of getting notified by others. So I've been upvoting my posts. Because I want people to notice me since I put time and effort creating my own posts. But I never encourage self upvoting comments. I never did that and I won't do that. Upvoting your own posts and upvoting your own comments are two different things as per my opinion.
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@airjordan ·
we gotta come together and help each other. Steemit runs on karma, remember that.
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@alainite ·
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Yaaaas my guy Jerry droppin the Ke$ha bomb on Steemit and peeps don't even know :P My guy! Keep up the good work once again :)
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@alao ·
I think when you upvote your own post you don't make as much. From what I read you should wait about 15 mins anyway. But as you said you make enough where it doesn't matter. I hope to one day hit your  numbers!!!
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@altcointrends ·
Hey Man - great to see you setting an example for the community. 

In such a short space of time, you are already one of the well known community leaders. Keep up the honest work.
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@amirl · (edited)
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I think there is no reason to feel bad about voting yourself if this is possible. If others can do it, then you can too, and your not alone :).
That said, I think the platform will gain much more, if voting for self comments will be disabled. While you can upvote your own posts to promote them, voting your own comments is not so valuable. And does feel like playing with yourself (which is ok. Dont feel bad man. You are good).
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@andrestales ·
Good morning @Jerrybenfield I think it is very good that from now on you use your upvotes to give publications that you like and not specifically yours, because there are many people who support you and they also want a percentage of those profits nobody does anything free and so You know in business question we all want a slice when I share some comment with you, I'm necessarily waiting so be a response of yours with that I conform.

Well for that initiative and I hope to someday get an upvote of yours a greeting success.
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@andybets ·
Here's a tool that allows you to see how people are voting in your network:
http://www.steemreports.com/votes-graph/

The accounts with thick borders are bigger self-voters.
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@andyluy ·
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Thank you By thinking this way @jerrybanfield so you are helping each one of us growing too !

https://media.giphy.com/media/KJ1f5iTl4Oo7u/giphy.gif
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@randowhale ·
This post received a 2.9% upvote from @randowhale thanks to @andyluy!  For more information, [click here](https://steemit.com/steemit/@randowhale/introducing-randowhale-will-you-get-the-100-vote-give-it-a-shot)!
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@andyturner ·
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Nice one Jerry - it makes perfect sense to me. As a newbie, who actually came here because of you, I followed your example in upvoting myself because I knew no different and because I'm lucky if will I total $1 per post anyway!  But, there's something about it that I thought didn't feel quite right.  If Intake away my 5 cents per post and give it to someone else, does that make a great difference to me? Not really, but I do admit that even a $0.3 upvote gets my attention these days.  Onwards and upwards - ethically :)
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@aniralf2000 ·
I say no to upvote my own posts, I always start at zero. But it's good you came clean @jerrybanfield so you got my vote.
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@arcange ·
Congratulations @jerrybanfield!
Your post was mentioned in my [hit parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20170708) in the following categories:

* Upvotes - Ranked 2 with 600 upvotes
* Comments - Ranked 2 with 266 comments
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@ardifitra ·
nice post dude @jerrybanfield
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@bek ·
When I first started Steemit(2 weeks ago) I had the Upvote own post box unchecked.  I thought it seemed kinda lame.  Then I noticed that most people check the box.  So, I checked it too.  I might rethink that decision.  My gut tells me in the long run it will do very little positive leaving upvoting your own content.  Steemit is about connecting with other people and upvoting posts that inspire you(in my opinion)
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@best434 ·
Woah , I am too late to comment here.Can I get your upvote @jerrybanfield .
As you saved that 45$ by not self-upvoting.
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@bianca12 ·
I upvote my own posts -  because if I didn't, they would have NO upvotes.  LOL.  But, seriously, the money is not important to me.  I usually look for the posts with only a few upvotes and vote them up, just so those posters don't feel like they have completely wasted their time.  I realized I cannot really make any money with my posts, so I am happy to upvote lots of other people.
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@bien ·
I realize that.i also stop upvoting my own post 4 days ago...it burned my upvote percentage..i better upvote others post that upvote my own post..in that case i can also help other steemians to earn a little bit of my upvote...thanks @jerrybanfield at your post and info..
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@bilalhaider ·
what a shame :p you voted up your own posts :p ?
👍  
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@billytwohearts ·
I am a firm believer that absolutely no one should be able to upvote their own content, posts or comments. I have said before, the platform is supposedly designed for the voters to evaluate other posters content, not to enhance ones own post or comment or to stroke ones own ego. As time goes by the ones taking advantage of the system are going to become  larger than the system can support. The same as large govt. 
how many minnows does it take to support one $1500. Upvote?
It seems inevitable that the system in time will bankrupt itself.
Self gratification only falsely benefits one person.
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@binjeeclick ·
I agree with you, my wrong way is upvoted my own post, so sad
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@binkley ·
You are a power writter @jerrybanfield. This quote from your post is so powerful. *The attitude of "I do not have enough money and therefore need to hustle for every dollar I can get" is the same attitude that left me without the ability to ever feel financially secure.* 

I hope people keep reading your content. Thanks for sharing.
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@bitcoinflood ·
I can understand self upvoting posts but there needs to be a balance between upvoting your own stuff and upvoting other quality content. PS I upvote just about ever one of your posts lol.
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@bledarus · (edited)
i like my pictures on facebook to so what? 
if you like your work uptvote it... 

now if you are a whale that has 1 million voting power decline payment.... simple!
👍  ,
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@bobwillow ·
Congrats, upvoting posts is one thing but upvoting your comments I have always thought was weird, since your upvotes should be used to vote for the Primo content.  I feel that upvoting your own comments is a form of hoarding, go buy some steem off of the exchanges because this stuff will be $10 USD soon and right now it is under $2 dollars
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@bodyinbeta ·
As someone brand new to Steemit I can see it both ways.  I don't think it's a problem to upvote one of your posts daily.  I just don't know if it's right to use all your voting power to upvote only your own posts and comments.  It kind of takes away the spirit of the the community.
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@bogey ·
The best thing to do. I like the idea
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@brandonp ·
$0.96
It's very noble of you to do that.  I think in some cases that immediate upvote can really help boost the post so that more eyes get to see it.  At least, that's what I tell myself when I upvote my own content.
👍  
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@brutalboris ·
@jerrybanfield wow, you almost seem like you have either obsessive compulsive disorder or multiple personalities lol... oh wait, so do I most days!  Great post and good points.  I am also stopping my upvotes, however I have so few followers and so little $ invested nobody cares.  I guess it would be a better use of votes on others as that will increase the use of the platform and everyone benefits in the end right?
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@buster544 ·
You post some very good information. I really don't think nobody would upvote your post, they are as I said very informative, positive, and well written, or in the case of a video, like the one you did of your home setup, that was original, and reassuring to people like me that there are people like you not just doing well, but showing others how to do well also.
   The old saying goes, give a man a fish and he can eat for the day, teach him how to fish and he will ba able to eat  for a lifetime.
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@charles1 ·
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I agree with you hence why I upvote good contents daily including yours. The good thing, is that you still gain curation award for upvoting other posts and comments, a win win for all. Upvoted
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@choogirl · (edited)
$5.34
I think upvoting your own posts is a personal choice that depends on where you are in the minnow-whale cycle. If you're a minnow then it obviously helps so why wouldn't you do it? However, once you start to get some serious voting power (like you do), then maybe it's not worth it so much anymore. I can definitely see your point: your posts make a bunch of money anyway so it's probably more beneficial for you to use your steem power to upvote others and help the platform grow. Like I said, I think it all depends on where you are. 

Good post. Keep 'em coming. 💛
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@bigfatmyths ·
I think you strike a good balance @choogirl. Good point.
👍  ,
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@bluethread ·
I was just thinking of that the last few days. Not from an aspect of right/wrong but what is the right strategy to use in this "game". As a minnow our vote may only be worth .01. At that point we are all struggling to get any attention and any tiny payout is huge. But as we get more steempower we get more influence and we can think about the responsibility we have to the steemit community. This is a shared environment and the more everyone prospers the better it is for everyone, including ourselves. Self upvoting is just a strategy like using randowhale or the discord community. Like a space ship, we have to get off the ground and into orbit. That takes more energy. Once we are in orbit we can use less energy to actually do what we are here to do. Engage with others. By doing that the folks we interact will benefit along with us.
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@bobwillow ·
Yes, Steemit is growing and we are all going to do very well, BTC hasn't peaked and Steem hasn't either, this wealth is easy to share.
Cheers to the Future
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@chandankumar ·
Kool Coment...
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@christopherwalls ·
This little baby minnow likes to upvote his own posts. lol
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@demotruk ·
$0.23
The larger you are, the more of an impact your actions have. You can do more benefit to the community with your votes and you can do more harm. It all affects the Steem price in the end. I agree that larger players need to be held more accountable, and they are more automatically accountable to the price.
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@agsupun ·
Totally agree with you..
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@jerrybanfield ·
@demotruk thank you very much for commenting here and helping me understand the responsibilities we have as the "larger players."  Would you help me begin serving our community as a witness by voting at https://steemit.com/~witnesses because your vote would help me get my first block?
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@sjennon ·
$0.44
Couldn't agree more. People with more SP have more influence and indirectly also more 'responsibility' to nurture Steemit. Track down the serious and good people and motivate them even more by giving  a simple upvote.
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@evelyniroh ·
You are 100% correct..
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@ginacarole ·
$0.17
I agree.  you got my upvote.
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@harmony7 ·
I second that.
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@mikej ·
$0.09
Well I have noticed that I'm not getting hardly any upvotes on my replies since this self upvoting became popular.  There is no incentive for members to upvote someones elses post now since they can earn by upvoting their own.

**This will not get any upvotes.** ;)
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@calamus056 · (edited)
Hey, what just happened :p
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@pandorasbox ·
It's strange that it's possible to upvote your own posts, I think... It seems like there's an endless amount of money and I'm not sure where it is all coming from?
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@rubenalexander ·
I agree.  Upvoted and following you now.
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@sjennon ·
I couldn't agree more. As a 'beginner' of Steemit, you feel like your posts are worth more than just a couple of cents and could use any tiny bit to make you reach a payout which you are content with.
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@choogirl ·
$0.63
Exactly. Which is why upvoting your own posts is a good idea when you are still a minnow and not feeling much love.
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@sneakgeekz ·
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@choogirl I couldn't of said it better myself. 
"I think upvoting your own posts is a personal choice that depends on where you are in the minnow-whale cycle. "

I upvote myself with the logic that it will help my post/comment get exposure. I'm still trying to find the upvote sweet spot. I been experimenting with splitting my upvotes between myself, commentators and other blog posts. I'm not sure if this is good strategy, I guess that's why it's an experiment. 

I'm curious to hear from others how they are using their upvotes?
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@agsupun · (edited)
@choogirl Agree with you. But I don't approve upvoting your own comments.
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@choogirl ·
$0.28
I usually only upvote my posts these days. Very rarely do I upvote my own comments unless it's to get exposure on a popular post like this one (and even then I would never do 100%).  Although, if I'd just written something like "nice post" on @jerrybanfield's post I wouldn't upvote that. In this case I'd rather use my steem power to upvote other people's posts than my generic comment. 

I still think generic comments have a purpose because it lets the author know you appreciate their work, but upvoting it? Yeah nah, what's the point?  I see a lot of stuff on steemit I would rather upvote instead.
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@randompic ·
SUPPORT FOR RANDOM PIC @randompic

Hi, my reply is now hidden because of a cyberbully.

So, @donkeypong is flagging all of my blogs and replies to intentionally ruin my rep score.

If anyone likes to stand up to bullies, go and flag @donkeypong as much as possible and lets ruin a rep score that deserves to be ruined.

If you are against censorship, tell @donkeypong to stop acting like the censorship police .

@donkeypong is a cyberbully, stalker and harasser. 

https://www.steemnow.com/

PLEASE UPVOTE RANDOM PIC AND RENEW HIS REP SCORE THAT WAS UNJUSTLY DESTROYED BY CYBERBULLIES
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@tabea · (edited)
$0.68
Exact. This is my opinion too. You got my 100% upvote :D
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@choogirl ·
$0.03
Thank you @tabea! Love your work by the way.
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@mother2chicks ·
We minnow can use all of the help we can get. Once established it makes more sense to turn it off, and let the crowd decide.  Thanks 🐓🐓
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@tdperes ·
I think you are absolutely right. I feel like it is fine to upvote your own posts during the beggining, but as soon as you start having more steem power you should feel responsible on helping the platform and the social network grow helping to create a community.
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@evanslaterel ·
that's how i feel.. like a kid with a new toy.. let me play with it.. o.k. and after i play a little you can play too..
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@ustaad ·
I think upvoting your own posts is a personal choice that depends on where you are in the minnow-whale cycle. If you're a minnow then it obviously helps so why wouldn't you do it? However, once you start to get some serious voting power (like you do), then maybe it's not worth it so much anymore. I can definitely see your point: your posts make a bunch of money anyway so it's probably more beneficial for you to use your steem power to upvote others and help the platform grow. Like I said, I think it all depends on where you are.

Good post. Keep 'em coming.
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@choogirl ·
$0.12
Why did you copy my comment?
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@ustaad ·
123 u got up voted. any one knows why we making money form commenting?????
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@evanslaterel ·
can u image if we get paid to post on instagram and that money goes to bitcoin or some coin in the market...image.. posting and that post money goes to any coin you want bro, that powerful 2 me..
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@chrissymchavez ·
I've thought about this but didn't want to cut myself short? But really, it's 10 cents. You're right, pay it forward!
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@christoff5221 · (edited)
Dude, you are an utter legend.

Because of you I started using Steemit, Now I have gone from 0-43 followers in a week. I have a passion and interest that I enjoy and take pride in.

I will happily take this advice and now refrain from upvoting my own posts.
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@cikxaijen ·
$0.44
@jerrybanfield, tq for the post!! I have been guilty of upvoting myself but it turns out i should help others!. You make a lot of great post and we are lucky to read them! I too join in May but you did better here.
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@claytonv ·
If you all would upvote me, I wouldn't have to upvote my self.  😁
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@cobalus ·
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Hi @jerrybanfield I think it's a good choice to help the community growing with your voting power instead of increasing only your own steem balance.

Do you think that in the future there will be a change via hardfork where we can't upvote our own comments and articles to increase the networking and curating even more? 

It would be really interesing to see how steemit would change with such an update.


Keep being the great contributor you are.

Kind regards 
@cobalus
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@codrcristi ·
Be a good guy Jerry!!! :D
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@cranium ·
Excellent article, with me - subscription.
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@crowdedmind ·
Always appreciate your insight @jerrybanfield - keep the great content coming! It makes me feel like this Steemit community is more and more real as I read your work :)
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@cryptojd ·
$0.03
Good initiative....
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@cryptokraze ·
I love your posts as it always have something good for whole community. 

Sharing is caring and when we are making some good money it is great to share to others as well. 

I would love to see some kind of contest by you where you delegate some power to those who are trying to support minnows @jerrybanfield
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@cryptonate ·
$1.35
I feel this reflects some of the wisdom I learned recently reading  Adam Grant's [Give and Take](https://www.amazon.com/Give-Take-Helping-Others-Success/dp/0143124986/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1499526242&sr=8-3&keywords=adam+grant), although I am still tempted to upvote my own comments from time to time for now anyway =)
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@cryptonet ·
That gesture of your deserves much more appreciation. You are doing the right thing. Most people on Steemit doesn't have any payouts and by giving up your voting power for your fellow steemians will bring a positive change in Steemit community. You have access to a substantial part of steem power and if you're using it for the good of others then you desereve a standing owation. You have already been inspiring people by your good work and sharing the valuable information you possess.
I am very thankful of you for that @jerrybanfield . May your success multiplies with time.
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@cyberblock ·
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It would certainly encourage users to create better content. But.. it would also prevent some investors who open an account with the main purpose of self voting to profit on there investment. Not everyone is here to become a blogger.
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@calamus056 ·
Voting on others still gives you profits. In fact it will give you more profit in the long run, because you make many content creators happy in the process. The more content creators are happy, the more new users and therefore investors will come. I'm fairly certain the value of STEEM would grow much more if everyone stops self-voting altogether!
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@cybernomad ·
@jerrybanfield, This kind of thinking needs to be adopted by everybody in the community to further evolve the SteemIt network!
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@dahvay · (edited)
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I have only been on steemit about a week and so I have voted for some of my posts because I  often get no votes or views on my posts. I don't upvote my comments but until I get some votes I feel like I at least deserve my own vote because I know the effort I went through to make a good post or in my opinion a good post. I think if I get some steem power I will not vote for myself at all and I think it is a good way to give back a bit to the community and help others.
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@davidding ·
I am here for the money,so I am gonna keep voting my own posts and comments.
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@davidfar · (edited)
that's great man 😎
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@daydreams4rock ·
do it if you want
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@decentralizd ·
Thank you Jerry, very responsible move sir!
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@demotruk · (edited)
Thanks Jerry for setting a good example.

I think it should be ingrained in our culture that Steem Power is simultaneously Steem Responsibility.
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@deniskj ·
I literally just came from watching one of your videos on YouTube about earning 2% through up-voting your own posts. For someone with as much voting power as you @jerrybanfield and as much account value, indeed it would be best if you spread the wealth around. 
Personally, as green as I am, I will always up-vote any well thought out comment or post that I discover on my feed. I may have a low Steem Power at the moment but I would feel uneasy not giving something back to the people that read my blog posts.
I appreciate everybody equally. Quality post as usual and please continue making the videos that you do on YouTube. I like them very much.
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@didyouknow ·
I like Your style of rendering
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@divyne ·
I just think it should be disallowed. It would solve everything. I don't even understand the design decision to allow it. It's like grading your own paper! A+ it is then! wut?
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@dlina-v-metrah ·
It seems to me that it is difficult for people with a great power of steem to refrain from voting for themselves. It turns out they give their dollars to others :) You can only admire their strength of mind :)
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@dominikboecker ·
You've got to follow your instinct here Jerry, and above all do what you feel makes you happy with peace of mind.
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@dovlet ·
this is the logic behind steem isn't it? actually it should be a default setting to not be able to upvote self
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@dreamrafa ·
Big whales can do this (well, you are not a big whale yet, but overall have enough followers & SP), but little minnows have to relay on the self upvote to get a little visibility at all, there is not way around this...
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@drewley ·
It's great that you are even thinking about these kind of these.. it shows you really care about Steemit. I still upvote my own posts as of right now, but it's an interesting philosophy you have presented
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@drogs ·
I like the action that youve taking Jerry. leading by example will go along way. especially with the following that you have i am sure that youve paved that way for some of us when we do get to that point. I know i will be doing what you did! Upvoted,resteemed. please follow:) @drogs
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@dssb ·
$0.43
You're totally right @jerrybanfield. Behaving in a more social way it'll do this community stronger and endless.

We're living in a #social #digital world, and the social services are making knowledge available for everyone at no cost, so let's keep it that way!

Great inspiring post!
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@ebohio2008 ·
Best post ever
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@ebohio2008 ·
Best post ever read on steemit. @nad and @dan do not upvote their posts, they trust on the judgement of the community. 
My question is , if all people on steemit decide not to upvote you, you end up getting $15 in all your posts because that is all can give yourself. However, people come together to upvote you, and you get above $200. Which one is better.
I realise we lose nothing when we vote. Rather, we gain. 
Thanks for this thought.
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@eco-alex · (edited)
$0.39
I always love your honesty Jerry. That you do it for your own inner peace is fantastic.  We should do what makes us feel good in our hearts. As anyone with money can testify, that is the most important thing in life! Being rich and miserable is even worse than being poor and miserable as you have no excuse!

My opinion on this is pretty clear.. I am an Anarchist at heart,  and I love the idea of not having too many rules set by one body that governs everyone.. I think its great that everyone has the choice to upvote themselves or not. I think the only reason people complain is because of jealousy, and i think jealousy is a very dark and destructive force.  What is it anyone else's business who someone chooses to upvote.. Why is it any better or worse to upvote yourself or someone else?

If we feel moved to upvote others then that is great! If we have enough power and money to upvote ourselves to the tune of $100 we probably don't even care about the money.. For most people with a lot of money, its the message that becomes important, and those that have invested (i think) have a right to get their point seen since they have a vested interest in the system. 

If we are integrous, we upvote our own posts because we want our point of view to be heard. That was the case for me today! I read a scare mongering post about the crash of Cryptocurrencies and i didnt really enjoy reading that post.. SO i commented on it to try to encourage people to not panic and sell etc.. I then upvoted my own comment (i have a little bit of power) and didn't upvote the main post because i didnt like it.. I had two people who seemed quite upset about it.. This annoyed me because it seemed people were more stuck in a 'poor me' attitude concerned about getting money and upvotes than the content itself. Let's be honest, if we scrapped self upvoting, people who were trying hard but not yet successful would still be getting upset!

I would say to people who are upset about self voting to let it go and focus instead  on making amazing passionate content. Then your time, and upvotes will come!

Sorry if i sound a bit feisty, i think the full moon is out!
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@ecoknowme ·
Full moons make me self upvote more too I think.
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@ecoknowme ·
I've only been on here a few weeks and it has been fascinating to compare the online community culture here to other platforms that shall remain nameless.  One thing I like about Steemians, is that the brows are generally high and people seem to be a lot more courteous and with very few incidents in trolling  (why would you when being nice gets rewarded?  That said, there is a bit of a social media gold rush mania where the upvote for upvote , follow for follow kindof culture that is emerging seems less like a bunch of people genuinely trying to connect, but more just 'users' filling in for their own bots.  upvoting yourself, especially when you are already prominent here makes little sense and likely makes schools of minnows feel insecure and self conscious since many are just starting to get their heads around the differences in how things work, and the power voting can have.  Most, probably start out flinging a few pennies around and occasionally magic whale bling makes wallets explode unexpectedly, raising curiosity and hopes for chances of making our waves in the future.  So ultimately, I think it is part of a spectrum.  newbies should just get familiarized and upvote as they feel, but eventually as you gain power and your votes really do mean something, put some thought into it and use your influence in the best ways possible each day.  Some day that might involve upvoting your own content for some reason, but chances are it is better to treat your votes like spoons held by unbendable elbpws (help others, and they will help you).
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@eddyova ·
nice one .i will resteem this post
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@emble · (edited)
I don't think anything is wrong with upvoting your post if you have the power. I DO think that Steemit should have a better balancing system between power and reputation, so that  not some whale can flag you down to -10 with one vote.

Anyways, I invite you to upvote my giveaway posts to increase to prize pool.
👍  
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@erki ·
I am still unable to understand is upvoting own post is a good thing?
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@everittdmickey ·
_I am unchecking the upvote post box starting today on my new posts and also am ending my practice of sometimes or often voting up my own comments because it feels like the right thing to do for my own happiness._

Good for you.  Everyone should be happy.
Doing that would make me UNhappy..
so I'm not doing it.
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@everittdmickey ·
never invest more than you can afford to lose.
and you invested 15BTC...hmm..that's $37500.0000 at today's rate.
so you can afford to lose almost forty grand?
and you presume to tell us
who have trouble paying RENT.
what to do?
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@farhanrafique ·
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 
shiiiiittttttttttttttttttttttttttt
I am also doing this ....
Good Example for this: sex without partner..
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@fitinfun ·
$0.02
I've been looking at this issue and agree with you, Jerry. I think we should be spreading the love and then it will come back to us. 

Upvoted and resteemed so more people can learn of the options. It's hard for us little guys to know what's right!
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@florinmanica ·
This is a post that changed my mind.
Thank you.
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@freedomnation ·
$0.81
Upvoting our own posts can be beneficial only in a way when we are short on upvotes and we consider our post to be worthy of reading.  But,  visiting the hot page and all the self upvotes on the plagiarised and meme stuff I'm afraid this will be a turn off for many potentionally great authors on Steemit.  This needs to be sorted out in the next HF,  also the reward system is not showing too much efficiency,  only thing that has changed is that people either vote only themsleves up or circle jerking.  @jerrybanfield Thanks for addressing this matter.
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@buster544 ·
Agree with you on this.
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@evanslaterel ·
i will spread the voting love. right now i need to make money for my spirit.. i started a shopify store and it hasn't made me money yet.. i get on here. and my account has 89 cents. thats more than i have right now. i invested all my time and every thing to making money online. sand i look up to mr. banfield for helping me figure out what really good.
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@gardengirlcanada ·
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Thank you. 90% of my content it my own stuff with sometimes references to other websites, but do quote my sources. Yes it is a big turn off to see a picture of a kitty cat, wearing a hat, receiving $100 + no writing no explanation, no effort to the post at all. It makes all my hard work look  like unvaluable content and that I should be doing the same posting a pic of my dog laying on the grass. look a your comment thread, you have had 10 votes and your getting a whopping 88 cents. I made a post this morning and I had 13 votes that netted me $58 cents. DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS and getting very frustrated, I have been on here a year and have 550 follower with a rep of 54.
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@freedomnation ·
I won't be paid this 88 cents.
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@fshllc ·
$0.63
@jerrybanfield  thank you for sharing this information which I think is crucial to the growth of Steemit as a whole. I watched a video a few days ago that you made about the same topic, that led me to write a blog in which I mentioned you as a positive influence on Steemit.  I admire your thoughts and your ability to deliver them freely, you make Steemit a really awesome community! Thank you for being real. 
To read the article please click the link below
https://steemit.com/steem/@fshllc/acknowledging-steemians-and-programs-that-make-life-easier-for-new-members-working-together-we-can-achieve-more
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@g-no · (edited)
$0.39
@Jerry...I hate to see a fellow Steemian suffer. I will take your voting power without a moment's hesitation if it means you can sleep easier at night.

If I had a selfie with me looking heroically into the distance bathed in the glow of a setting sun (and my own self satisfaction) .. I'd post it.
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@gardengirlcanada ·
$0.11
Thank you for setting the example. It is people like me who try and write good useful, quality content for my genre of people Gardening, Homestead, food etc. I share the wealth of information that my grandparents taught me about gardening etc. I have truly been on STEEMIT for almost a year, I worked very hard for all my followers, as I did not have a following come to steemit from Youtube. I do not generally upvote my comments, but have upvoted my posts. I have almost 200 SP and 550 followers I am at level 54 of reputation and I only get 5 Cents of voting power. Today I posted about an update of my garden, and had 13 people including me up vote it. All the people were from level 31 to 60, and it netted me a nice little profit of 58 cents, I just don't get it.  If you Can Help me understand that would be helpful, because I am loosing my patients. Would it possibly be that I need more steem? HELP explain please.
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@calamus056 ·
Most of your work gets $10, you shouldn't complain. Most people aren't even getting $1 ever.

Just keep doing it a little longer and eventually you will get your breakthrough.
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@ecoknowme ·
Did not know any of that, and also would like to know why that is.  That's insane considering how much you already have going on here!  i also wonder how much of the platform is geared towards those that are mostly using the cryptocurrency side of the platform as an investment strategy and how much money + reputation does compared to your reputation you grew on here, organically, minus a hefty external boost in the wallet from outside the platform  :/  Might also be that everyone used up their steem before the upvote for you that day?  not sure, hoping someone can shed some LIGHT over HERE!
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@gardengirlcanada ·
Nope I usually post first thing in the morning at 7:00 am so I don;t think that is the case. Thanks for responding
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@gary-wood · (edited)
$0.02
Thats very unselfish thing to do. When im internet underground space rich ill do the same but not yet :)
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@getsome3000 ·
I'm so little I need all the help I can get, buy I'm glad you're giving it back now.
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@ghulammujtaba ·
So after reading all the comments, I guess, we, the minnow community has decided to still upvote our posts :D 
You have some serious Steem Power in your Wallet bro and yes, you can do that. 
We, who can't buy steem like you did had to start from sctach and are forced to upvote our own posts till we get a good amount of Steem Power. 
Help us grow by upvoting our blogs, commenting there and be an example for other Dolphins and Whales as well. 
Keep up the good work!
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@ginacarole ·
$0.17
I hope something changes to keep the little guy going.  It seems that If you don't start with mega steem power or you are not a professional blogger with a following already than it's hard to want to stick around.  It don't the idea of timing your upvote.  If you missed out on the timing then you won't upvote something that you really like cause you don't make money.  Everybody loses.
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@globocop ·
Well, you ain't alone @jerrybanfield. 

Here following the same practice. Doing what's right is not always the most popular thing to do. Starting my no self-vote practice was inspired by one of your earlier posts.


*ch @globocop*

<center>Thanks for reading. 😎

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@gnimeets ·
Thanks bud.

This is something that has been bothering me alot lately. 

People would have 1000 followers and at most upvote once or twice a day.

Seems very greedy to me.

I do not think it is wrong for you to upvote your own post's though.  

You put alot of effort into them!

Just use the rest to upvote some thoughtful comments and your good I think.

(not fishing)

Don't forget "self praise is better than none"
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@goofyu · (edited)
Well theres always more joy in giving than having if you are an decent human being that is :)
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@greatvideos · (edited)
Thank you for your help and support @Jerrybanfield 
I have been upvoting authors and commentators for over  1200 times since June the 12th since I joined almost a month ago 
I wish you to keep helping us the Minnows by understanding that is not necessary to stop upvoting yourself completely but really necessary to be upvoting others as you do and keep bringing new users to the platform 
Have a lovely time
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@hamzaoui ·
$0.31
Good post
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@booster ·
<p>This comment has received a 0.08 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @hamzaoui.</p>
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@hendrix22 ·
Jerry I just did the same thing. We like our own content that's why we post it. The only gain in upvoting your own post is monetary. I agree we should use our upvotes on others and they do the same. Thanks for another great post
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@hiroyamagishi ·
$0.32
I agree with you...100% upvoted this post and sharing it and resteeming very nice blig @jerrybanfield
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@hms818 · (edited)
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Very good initiative @jerrybanfield ...keep up the good work. I'm definitely going to upvote this post.
👍  ,
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@blondenfun1 ·
Excellent point! Thanks!
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@calamus056 · (edited)
And don't forget to self-vote your comment like a jackass. Oh wait you already did that.

Seriously, why would you need those 10 cents? You can make someone else way happier with it. In the end you'll get it back anyway through the extra rise in STEEM value.
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@n1kofi ·
I suggest you take that toxic attitude back to facebook, buddy. This. Is. Steemit! ;)
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@icedrum · (edited)
Really EXCELLENT, deep post - thanks for sharing Jerry!
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@idakwo1 ·
Thank u for this nice information
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@illithas ·
haha u can upvote 50% 4 u and 50% 4 others and all sides will be happy =)
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@ilyastarar ·
Hi @jerrybanfield ,

I'm glad you did what I requested you to do 2 days ago. So nice of you. You may or may not have seen my comment on your post but here's the screenshot. Thanks for taking this decision.

![comment screenshot](http://i.imgur.com/jjSMqp8.jpg)
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@immetal6669 ·
When people stop commenting on my posts without voting (fishing for votes). I can't give away votes with much less than in return
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@immetal6669 ·
It's getting quite ridiculous https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@immetal6669/apperently-my-contest-was-spam-inspired-by-steemians-here-s-the-winner
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@jessicakroe ·
you always got me jerrybanfield
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@jibi333 ·
nice post
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@julsmlz ·
@jerrybanfield One of my friends here in Steemit suggested me to upvote my own post however I feel awkward to do it to my self, I feel like being so absorbed of myself, I feel like a narcissistic being. Anyhow, yesterday out of curiosity I did upvote my own post and I felt like I'm cheating myself. Just my opinion though. ^^
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@justinomora ·
Jerry, you left me confused all over on 2 dimensions.  First, at the level of humanity: I understood you, even you make me realized that I have suffer from anger all my life. Probably comes from my childhood. I am able to remember this because one day at Columbia I decided to research about the Nature of Anger. I bought a book about it and never read it. LOL. So I never cure myself nor did anything about. Anger went underground and now 40 later I am remembering this episode.

Second, regarding making coins you also left me confused weather or not upvote myself and doing so I will have a truly measure of the value of my work and the performance of my network.
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@ecoknowme ·
http://lipn.univ-paris13.fr/~duchamp/Books&more/Neurosciences/Reflexologie/Mantak%20Chia/%5BMantak_Chia,_Juan_Li%5D_Transform_Stress_into_Vital(BookFi.org).pdf
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@ecoknowme ·
though you might not read this either!  But it is good to deal with emotions one way or another!  we are kindof stuck with ourselves no?
Regarding the coins and upvotes, your value is both for you to determine and if you share content on here, that can be measured by yourself AND others.  Most of us are probably critical of ourselves and our own content, but if you enjoy doing any of it, that is pretty priceless in itself.  If you just want to share and express and be open to getting some credit for your contributions here, you probably can't go wrong.  If you ONLY want to make money, you will probably just get more angry!
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@jwolf ·
having sex without a partener, oh man
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@jwolf ·
and you better accept payout and donate to some minnows to help community :D
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@kayaman ·
Hey Jerry, just wanted to say thanks, you were my main source of info before joining Steemit, after I found out about Steemit I started watching youtube videos about it and your videos I found to be the most informative, so thanks a lot for that. Keep up the good work.
-KayaMan
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@kevbot ·
nice comparison between voting and sex. Maybe here and there is OK. craig-grant has reasoning behind self-voting. i'm indifferent
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@kim066 ·
$1.01
I think it really is the matter of personal choice.
👍  
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@calamus056 · (edited)
True, if you want the platform to not live up to it's full potential, or even fail, you should keep upvoting yourself.
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@ionlysaymeep ·
meep
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@kingjan ·
Dosent work , if you dont have steem power .
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@kingxy ·
wow i think i am touched by this
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@krisosa ·
So touching boss @jerrybanfield, believe me you have always been considerate and generous with information. I know you are no less in reality. Nice one
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@krnel ·
Great! I also stopped auto-voting my posts (I don't upvote my own comments) prior to HF19. I also don't vote on posts that the author did pay-to play ;)
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@kubbyelizabeth ·
You said it all when you said, *Ironically I have learned the more generous I am, the more I will tend to be given by the world*. Love the idea and even with my post being with .1/.2 cents the mind set is the same. If I don't do it now, I won't have established the discipline to do it later. It's a gut check  for all.
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@lawrenceho84 ·
$1.16
I think you are right. Steemit is always about the community and not ourselves. When you give others more the universe will return you even more. Somehow the good karma will return. Thumbs up!!! Upvoted n followed!!
👍  ,
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@calamus056 · (edited)
"I think you are right."

Few seconds later you upvoted your own comment ;)
👍  
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@leoandbell ·
$0.14
Great post!
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@leongkhan ·
$0.03
I like the choice. Community development over personal wealth generation. 

The current decline in the STEEM price is a great opportunity for investment. Now is the time to put your promotion skills to work. Keep up the good work!
👍  ,
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@louisdollas ·
constructive argument really, with all these experiment and the likes,honestly i am still thinking about what stimulates  steemians  to upvote, comment and resteem posts in steemit. perhaps, due to the level of the author, the benefits attached, the reputation, maybe the contents.before i came in here i learned that what matters is the quality of your content nomatter your level be it minnow whale or dolphin, but i doubt if that is the case! don't get me wrong, is just an observation. come to think of one upvoting his or her post, i think this is a costly experiment if you ask me,why because majority of the steemians if not all are here with the ulterior motive just to see any easiest way to make fortune.  i never knew such is existing if not now and i don't think is healthy for the system considering the essence of this platform.''value creation''if someone is doing well in steemit you know it through other people reactions either by upvoting and the rest and if one is not doing fine is the opposit. so i think upvoting and the likes is like a yardstick for evaluating good job and motivation.hope i am not diverging! apologies if by any means.thanks Mr Jerry for bringing this topic.i wish i could give it a trial.lol
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@ludijadario ·
Great post, thanks for the info you gave us and for not fooling us in the future with your self up votes :) Cheers
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@lulita ·
Thanks for sharing this insight. I think this is something personal, and everyone has the right to do what they want with their upvotes. Also the opinions are based on who you are inside the community. It's a different perspective when you are minnow, dolphin, or whale. 
![Comment signature.gif](https://steemitimages.com/DQmSCvrMKqZiFXMwdMn54bHg1quYA2zRAtNLeAUa29R9acG/Comment%20signature.gif)
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@luzcypher ·
I don't think there is anything wrong with upvoting you own main post. What bothers me is people who leave a one or two-word comment like "thanks" or "great post" on someone elses blog post and then [self-upvote their own comment like this](https://steemit.com/steem-help/@luzcypher/please-welcome-mrs-machete-to-steemit)
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@mady27 ·
Very initiative step sir ,according to me by upvoting our own post means that we are afraid of not getting  higher rank .We should wait for our followers to get upvoted
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@marcito77 ·
Hey Jerry...I am following since nearly 3 weeks....from youtube to steem...with motivation of a good friend of mine and suppoman udemy....What a deep content....love is the answer....keep going!!!
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@marwa ·
I 100% agree with the decision you decided to take .its true thr more you give with time the more you will be rewarded more..

This is how life goes...

Stick to ur decision @jerrybanfield  ☺👍🏻
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@mcdevlin182 ·
I believe there are two valid sides to this argument.  
You make an excellent point supporting your position.  It would more than likely be of more benefit to vote others content instead of our own.  Not only would this add to curating quality content, but it might also make us feel like a better community member.  Possibly it could cause us to all work harder on our content.

Looking at it from the other side there are some benefits that the community can receive through self-voting.  First some quality content might need that initial vote to break into the spotlight before it is washed away with all of the other new content.  Some times 1 vote can cause people to be more accepting of something.  SteemIt.com is bettered by quality content,we curate content to ensure this occurs, so if we write a quality post shouldn't we ensure it is curated?  Doesn't a self-vote show that we stand by our work in some instances?  Additionally a self-vote might be the only thing separating an unpopular idea or a new author's work from obscurity.

It is easy to advocate for no self-voting when you make more than $0 a post.  However, for a new user, or struggling contributor that might be the assistance they need to prevent them from quitting SteemIt.com before they hit their stride.
I definitely agree self-voting can be abused, and it should be reviewed, but to remove it altogether would be a mistake as well.
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@michiel ·
$0.55
I like sex without a partner, so I up voted myself....

Good post again, I get your point and agree totally with @choogirl. You have already so much following that your post goes trending anyway. I (and many others) still need to up vote myself to get some visibility. Hope to be able to make the same announcement as you did one day!
👍  ,
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@calamus056 ·
A gangbang is more fun, same goes for SteemIt ;)
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@mikej ·
**I think the self upvoting is being taken advantage of too much.** 

**If you're going to upvote yourself, at least upvote the authors blog.**
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@mikej ·
**No one will upvote this.**
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@mikej ·
This defeats the purpose of upvoting something that you like. Do you think?

A member may like someone's reply but not upvote it because they are upvoting themselves. This gives me no incentive to upvote your reply since you already did.
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@mikenevitt ·
Got to confess I've been upvoteing myself as well, but I do try and upvote others especially people who reply. Another great post jerry thanks. Cheers mike
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@minsoenaing ·
How many your voting power? I would like to know to do high voting power .
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@mitchell0101 ·
Follow Me
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@mithundipankar ·
Good post. Keep coming
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@mmckersie ·
wow very good job im a newbie but im going to join you on that! RESPECT!
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@molometer ·
A weird thing just happened. I upvoted your post and it went down 3 cents? I'm new to steemit and don't fully get it? I watched your videos on YouTube and am interested to see your change of heart. I did think your method was not in the spirit of this website.
But I also thought. What do I know?
This guy seems to know what he is doing? And steemit isn't stopping him? Maybe this method is legit however underhanded it seems.
I'm glad you have decided to adapt. It feels like the right thing to do.
For that reason I'm resteeming this post so others may learn from your example. I'm following you too.
I hope this doesn't come across as judgemental that is not my intention at all. I'm just another newbie trying figure this website out. I could have bought a load of influence but then I wouldn't know who to reward? Randomly upvoting post unread is not going to raise the quality of the content here.
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@mother2chicks ·
I have mixed feelings about this as well.  🐓🐓
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@msg768 · (edited)
You have some good points Jerry! You got my upvote ;]

Proverbs 11:25
> A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed.
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@n1kofi ·
$0.07
Well written! Made me consider how I conduct myself at Steemit. Way to show the way.  Thank you, Jerry. Love you.
👍  
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@natasmr ·
Honestly, Jerry, I haven't decided yet. I don't have a lot of votes now, and each of them warms the soul. So, yet I not reputation 50, want to continue to vote for my posts. 

BUT, not for comments. For them, I never voted. Not going to vote
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@newschannel428 ·
well as for  freedom of choice   as to do it or not,   let freedom ring and let each person decide if they will or not,  after all that is the fair thing to do
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@calamus056 · (edited)
You see what freedom does the world...everyone is enslaved and shooting each other, while the world can be fantastic if everyone has basic wealth and is nice to others.
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@n1kofi ·
You seem to confuse governed enslavement with freedom. Morale is an invention of man, and as such, always subject to debate. Communist utopia is also, sadly, just that.
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@nspart · (edited)
Glad to to see this... I'm starting to wonder if your video a month back about gaming the system is why my followers are at a all time high and my votes are lower than 3 months ago and I have heard the same from other people also "People aren't voting like they used to"

It seems people started doing more upvoting of their own comments than quality content. That's not good for the platform or the quality content creators. 

Upvote  your own post, sure... but all of your comments also?

If everyone does  that it will have to be prohibited... Sure I've even done it a few times myself as a test, but every day it will kill the platform if we all do it. So I decided to stop, unless it's to boost comment exposure occasionally. I'd actually rather bring a new person onto steemit and upvote their posts to help them and steemit grow or upvote others comments on my posts to reward my followers that upvote and comment on my posts.

Steemit is a place to create content, do what you are passionate about and get paid for it, not a place to try to just make a quick buck off up voting yourself.  And as far as self-upvoting, I think you should only do it if you actually feel your content is worth it. If you put out awesome content go ahead upvote yourself. If your putting out crap or pirated or copycat content just to vote on, well you really don't belong on steemit in the first place.

I came here because I'm a Photographer and Artist (I shoot Modern Pinup, Fine Art and Erotic Art) and I want to get paid doing what I love to do. If that's not possible I'd leave and so will many others like me. I want to see this platform grow so Artists and Creatives of all kinds can follow their passion and make a living doing what they love!

If we get selfish it will hurt us in the long run, you have to share the wealth with those that produce quality original content, and starve out pirates, copycats, and low quality content. 

You want to make money on Steemit starting with nothing, produce quality content consistently, build a following and make friends. The truth is unless you have massive Steem Power, upvoting others will get you much farther than up-voting yourself. 

If your vote is worth .05 and you upvote yourself you made .05. If you produce quality content and upvote me I might upvote you back for .30 and I might keep doing it, so you made more my upvoting me.  Content is King! You have to find a balance between helping yourself and helping others.  For example I use Whaleshares to get whale votes. That increases my SP. Then my votes to others are worth more and help them also.

PS: Maybe take down those videos telling people how to game the system that are still being passed around and reposted as they are destructive to the Steemit Ecosystem.
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@oddnugget ·
$0.18
Upvoting myself seemed cool right up until I realized it wasn't
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@jerrybanfield ·
I did it myself hundreds of times when I first joined to come to the same conclusion!
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@oddnugget ·
It's a real facepalmer to realize after the fact, but posts like this will hopefully help others steer clear of the same mistake haha
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@odigetti ·
The power of voting ahhh that feeling !
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@okri · (edited)
$0.06
important note
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@pawos · (edited)
$0.10
right :-)
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@evanrvoss ·
$0.68
Please do not start this on steemit....Especially on @jerrybanfield page.  He is one of the main reason I signed up for this platform.
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@oleg326756 ·
Jerry, if you want your valuable upvotes to help spread prosperity among a broader base of Steemians, feel free to come by my blog and upvote my weekly **“Feed Your Minnows”** series. All SBD earnings of the weekly episodes are being divided equally between the participating minnows. By upvoting those episodes you can become somewhat of a golden sponsor to the entire series. And it won’t cost you anything, but will earn you gratitude of the minnows. Do the right thing, mate! ;)
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@omido98 ·
$1.22
That's a good choice made by you. Personally, I'm still going to upvote myself because I have no conscience... :P
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@calamus056 ·
Luckily going to hell doesn't require a conscience :p
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@mikej ·
Do you at least upvote the authors blog that you're replying on?
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@omido98 ·
$0.89
Ye I give about 10% to the ones I like which don't usually get much.
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@othmanesl ·
really great post  thanks a lot for sharing and keep on posting ;)
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@outhori5ed ·
please anyone here who will like to share advice and opinion on sex education? there is a move we plan to make and we will appreciate advice, opinion and instructions. please feel free to share your view on this 
https://steemit.com/sex/@outhori5ed/sex-education-by-ogunleye-dele-victor

thank you
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@outhori5ed ·
i agree. upvoted already
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@overthewait ·
That's a very philanthropic concept, I wonder if it will make a difference to the wider community? But I think the honest answer is does it matter provided doing it makes you feel better. I mean after all it's your journey and not for anybody else to judge, right?
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@palme ·
No matter about $, steem, fame, or, whatever. Upvoting own posts feels kind of publishing something in facebook and then liking it yourself ... or releasing a new track on bandcamp and then buying it yourself, or ... my oldschool internet me thinks it is wrong or at least weird :) what do you think?
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@palmtreetrading ·
$0.80
I thinks its the noble thing to do @jerrybanfield ,  looking at your previous posts you don't have much to complain about your payouts. I don't mean it in a negative way, you are bringing good content and new Steemians to this platform. 

Thanks for that!
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@calamus056 ·
His content is good and what he's going to do is very noble, but let's be honest: his and other content is way, way, wayyyy over-rewarded!
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@cryptokraze ·
He has done great and I am here due to jerry facebook ad
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@sirpeter8 ·
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You are right.
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@smithmadu ·
Am on Steemit because of jerry through always watching his videos on Youtube and following his guidance and advice
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@paolatoro ·
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Thanks so much for sharing your opinion. I always upvote my post; I just feel is the right think to do.
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@passiveprofitz ·
lol...the part about "feeling the same way I used to feel when having sex without a partner.". Comparing upvoting yourself to that is Just Hilarious
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@pennystockhelp ·
very good thought, remember those whose upvotes are worth at $0
I see your videos too, very informative but sometimes I skip them in middle because they sometimes get too lengthy :D
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@pixzelplethora ·
and because the blue color is so attractive.
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@polaleye50 ·
Helping other to grow when you have enough voting power is just showing love. @polaleye50
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@politicalboxer ·
$0.02
Look, I just upvoted myself a whole 4 cents.
God do I feel bad!
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@prakashghai · (edited)
To make it fair and square self-upvoting should be completely removed, both from Posts and Comments.
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@progressivechef ·
That's the best way out @jerrybanfield . Just imagine how many you can make happy and push up with your upvote on their post rather than yours. 
It will all come back to you anyway! 
Looking forward for a good upvote on my post from you soon!!!
Cheers
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@qasimwaqar ·
$0.03
care to upvote others. it will surely help you in long run.. thanks for guidance:-)
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@lovejuice ·
<p>This comment has received a sweet gift of Dank Amps in the flavor of 2.45 % upvote from @lovejuice thanks to: @qasimwaqar.  Vote for Aggroed!</p>
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@queeneleanor ·
$0.54
Great post. However, here's the better question...how is it that you know this is a problem, yet the creators of Steem don't?! Really losing faith in Steem lately. There's no reason people with as much Steem power as you had many others have, should even have the choice to upvote your own posts and comments. All this is doihg is enabling greed, making the rich get richer, and giving the 90% of Steem without a lot of power, seeing the true colors of what's behind Steem, which is basically diluting the coin for the sole benefit of the whales, while forcing most of the Steemit community to kiss up to the whales and post crap for the sole purpose of getting upvoted. If it's so obvious to you Jerry that this is wrong, which it most certainly is, then why isn't it just as obvious to the developers. I bet it's fun for all the whalesgetting rich off the naivety of Steemit development, but I've always been taught to be greedy when others are fearful, and fearful when others are greedy Steemit is enabling pure greed, when it should be doing the exact opposite, but hey...let me just upvote this comment so I can get paid, and because I can. Yep, this will eventually crash the coin...guaranteed
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@rawpride ·
I love how you said it's the right thing to do FOR YOUR OWN HAPPINESS!  So key there man.  I think what your doing will help promote the platform, and if more whales and dolphins do it, it will help even more!  I can understand why minnows self vote (even though their vote is really worth much YET!) but hopefully many of these people start to give out their votes more and self vote less as they grow too!
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@realmoney ·
I'm new user .. I want my comment get some money for traying !!
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@revelationquotes ·
Interesting post.  I am still learning this whole process.
When I started I was upvoting my posts and now realize that I have not voting power what so ever.
I stopped as of yesterday to raise my voting power so that I can give back much like you are saying.
It does suck upvoting people and they get nothing from my upvoting.

I want to give back so that my vote does possess something so I am rebuilding that power.

Thanks for the post
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@ridi20 · (edited)
> Do I really need that additional $45 from my own votes or would I feel better about being able to give that out?

If only everyone would think like you do :)

http://img1.gbpicsonline.com/gb/185/007.jpg
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@robertchr · (edited)
Jerry, If Steemit didn't want us to upvote our own posts comments and replies then why are we able to do it? after all when we post an article on steemit it is automatically self-upvoted by the system to make it appear we upvoted ourselves. I see no gilt and no reason for not voting for myself. if it were so bad then steemit will make the changes through regramming, after all Steemit is still in beta with lots of changes ahead of it. If you have a good post on Steemit then upvote yourself god dammit!
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@rohitbisht ·
This is good to unupvote yourself instead of voting ur followers.....
Thia is so helpful....to us all minnows...thanks....
Love jerry
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@romangt87 ·
$0.77
Sometimes I upvote my comments because they gain visibility, cause they appear first in the comments list. Thats interesting if you have spend some time trying to comment something interesting. What do you think about that? In the long run is not worth to upvote your own posts?
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@coliraver ·
$0.08
I do the same thing
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@n1kofi · (edited)
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I feel like sometimes voting your own comment makes sense. To gain more visibility if you really want everyone to see your comment.
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@sneakgeekz ·
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I think @choogirl summed it up pretty good here
"I think upvoting your own posts is a personal choice that depends on where you are in the minnow-whale cycle."
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@calamus056 · (edited)
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A self-vote is very rarely justified. I happened to find a situation yesterday that required a self-vote on my comment. Someone commented on my old post and since i couldn't edit the post anymore, i had to comment on it, but the comment was at the bottom, so i chose to self-vote it to get it to the top so everyone would see the message that the information was outdated. Other than situations like this, i think it's almost never justified to self-vote anything.
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@ronald20 ·
Hi @jerrybanfield I watch all of your tutorial on youtube and all of this very helpful
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@rtdcs ·
Cool ... So use it on me that I need it :)

Just kidding :)

Congratulations!
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@russiancat ·
@jerrybanfield how long have you been doing this? You have a lot of experience.
👍  
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@sado3737 ·
You're just wonderful. Happy to meet you here.
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@screenname ·
Re: Unchecking Upvote Post + Ending Self Upvoting!
<p>This post has been ranked within the top 25 most undervalued posts in the second half of Jul 08. We estimate that this post is undervalued by $48.19 as compared to a scenario in which every voter had an equal say.</p> 
<p>See the full rankings and details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-jul-08---part-ii">The Daily Tribune: Jul 08 - Part II</a>. You can also read about some of our methodology, data analysis and technical details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/introducing-the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-nov-04---part-i">our initial post</a>.</p>
<p>If you are the author and would prefer not to receive these comments, simply reply "Stop" to this comment.</p>
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@sdilan ·
Its funny i upvote my own comment and i get .01 .. Whales hook a brother with some steem powwerrrr!
👍  
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@seveaux ·
Keep up coming with good content jerry! you are like a kind of mentor for a lot of people I think especially for people new to crypto! you stay up to date in the cryptospace and share this with us in your video's and posts which is an easy and quick way to get crypto news and stuff.. I like it thanks for that!
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@shebe ·
nice. Almost everybody with reputation > like 60 should do the same. Just to make sure the articles were really rated by people who actually read it and not by them who to play on their own sandbox ... This is called greediness. Cheers
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@calamus056 · (edited)
You mean > 1000 SP. Reputation is for authors, not curators.
👍  
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@shla-rafia ·
I just saw that upvoting your own post needs to be toggled now. What a bad move! It should be automatically upvoting.
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@silver-saver ·
$0.03
I think good karma will return to you Jerry!
👍  
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@simontheravager ·
very good thinking ^^ so you could just upvote my quality content, please read my posts ty great whaleroni haha
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@sk8music · (edited)
I always wondered how that works.. Great stuff Jerry! Definitely worth a reSteem!
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@skytrex ·
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*Lead by example* is the way forward!

Thanx Jerry
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@solextin ·
Nice post @jerrybanfield
Keep it up @ned and @dan,when i grow uo i will like to be like you guys
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@somegermannerd ·
I think you're doing the right thing. Ultimately, this is a community about helping each other.

Respect to you, man!
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@spikykevin ·
Im probably so active on steemit my steempower always stays below 40% so yeah it wont matter much ~ GREAT POSTS BTW!
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@spranckx ·
"Burning my voting power all on myself left me feeling the same way I used to feel when having sex without a partner."

So you masturbate?
👎  
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@stackin ·
I don't think upvoting your own post is bad at all if you do it 1-2 times a day, I tend to upvote about 90% of my comments.

However... I know where you are coming from, I'm going to take your advice 😬😀
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@starz ·
Once again, another valuable post that I have learned from. From a newbie point of view, well at least my newbie view point, upvoting myself naturally feels wrong. I've never did it because someone on steemit platform said to upvote, resteem  and comment for the best results so I stick with that. It's what I was taught. Being mostly a reader and commenter and less of a blogger, I see a huge gap between the upvotes and comments. I really like steemit but I do see the flaws and strengths. @jerrybanfield Looking forward to steemj btw
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@steem-god ·
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@jerrybanfield  ... this is a great initiative. I have been thinking about this since I started to know steemit better. Also, I have done this on few of my posts. this way, we can save our vote, and use it for someone who truly needs it. 

I am still a minnow here and I am not sure if my opinion matters for a big whale like yourself. But Honestly, I admire you, and at the same time Jealous that I do not earn that high at steemit, as you and many other people do !! @steem-god
👍  ,
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@discordia ·
<p>This comment gets a 0.02 % upvote thanks to @steem-god - Hail Eris !</p>
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@lovejuice ·
<p>This comment has received a sweet gift of Dank Amps in the flavor of 8.33 % upvote from @lovejuice thanks to: @steem-god.  Vote for Aggroed!</p>
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@steeminator3000 ·
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It is unchecked on myself for a while Steem on bruh !
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@stefen ·
I thought there is no sin upvoting our post by our self.
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@stevelou ·
On one hand I agree with you. Voting for yourself is exactly like liking your own facebook post yet on steemit it is not visible at first glance. That is why it is more tolerated.
On the other hand there is the money factor. I believe this is not a problem for you as you are already very popular on steemit and  there will always be people upvoting your posts anyway but common mortals like us is different. A post with no upvotes and the dollar symbol at zero will rarely see any engagement unfortunately!
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@christellemoore ·
$0.09
Even though I love the idea, I tend to agree with you. I find myself in the same situation as you and at my little level I do not really feel "selfish" upvoting my own posts.... will start un checking some of my posts though ;)

Am a big fan of yours @jerrybanfield!
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@calamus056 ·
Under 100 SP you have almost no impact so it's not that relevant. It's more a matter of principle you might want to get used to. It feels good to reward others, doesn't it?
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@storcogato ·
I feel the same way; However, I have to upvote my own comment or else it gets buried in the mix and no one sees it. I wonder how steemit would play out if voting on ones own posts/comments were disabled?
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@demotruk ·
$1.02
You can do that if you like, but remember that anyone who finds what you do objectionable can downvote it as well. If you exercise restraint on self voting that's unlikely to happen much though.
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@storcogato ·
$0.86
thats a good point, im still new to steemit. its a difficult platform to learn, but I enjoy it
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@farhanali ·
$0.32
hahaha! you upvote after reading this post man :)
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@storcogato ·
Im a jerry Banfield fanboy
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@ourlifestory ·
$0.32
It just might be better for the community engagement and would help with reward pool draining whales ;)
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@storcogato ·
true, but then the whales might power down. Steemit should do a test run and see what happens
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@resteeming ·
$0.15
If that happens. The initiative of getting more Steem Power would go into a different direction. Just a thought.
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@storcogato ·
Thats a really good point. Steem is down big right now as it is. Down from $650mill to $400mill in a month.
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@stover.daniel ·
I am quite new. I upvoted a few of my own posts because of Steemit articles  suggesting it for minnows, including one of yours.

I quickly stopped. While you elucidate some good, rational reasons why not to do this, my main reason is the same as yours at the start of the article: my own happiness.

Somehow, it just felt icky to upvote myself.

Thanks!
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@suggeelson ·
You are perfectly right when you are in such a position with so many paid posts you do not have to make up, but the small ones, the situation is top down critically. Every day we fight for one vote. Not that 1 cent makes any difference for us either or not.
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@surfyogi ·
$6.79
I think all the "self voting lists" and the entire issues is completely over-shadowing all kinds of other work we should be doing on the Steemit platform.

To quote @smooth:

"Someone who buys SP and then selfvotes is not 'draining' anything and at best can get back a portion of what was put in. It causes no harm at all."

Investors are the ones who underwrite all of the rewards on this platform. If you are not an investor, or are only a smaller investor, you need to focus your efforts on creating inspiring content that makes investors want to give their money to you. Whatever else they do or don't do with their money (including self-voting) is not your concern and does not harm you in any way. Nevertheless, you do have a downvote that you can use to disagree with what you think are underserved rewards. I suggest using it."

"The idea of creating 'lists of shame' and demonizing people is divisive, creates a hostile and toxic environment attractive to no one, and serves no useful purpose. There is no way to tell from these lists whether the content is deserving of the rewards or not. The only way to tell is by actually looking at the content, and if you think it is undeserving, downvote it."

"Your own statistics show that self-voting is awarding about 8.5% of the reward pool. I don't find that suggestive of any problem whatsoever. It is probably a very reasonable number given that the current parameters give people 10 full power votes to make per day. Thus one is being applied to the voters' own content and nine to others' (on average, of course). Seems fine."
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@talalofficial ·
Well i am new to steem and upcoting my own posts and comment doesnt seem to cost me anything.. So...YKWIM
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@teamhumble ·
upvoted with compassion ;) hope you will do the same ;)
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@the-traveller ·
It is actually one of the new rules of the new economy; 
https://steemit.com/economy/@the-traveller/how-to-think-about-steemit-com-and-navigate-it-lessons-from-new-rules-for-the-new-economy-by-kevin-kelly

Although it seems contradictory,  generosity actually will get you further than keeping stuff to yourself. In July I am actually experimenting with giving all my SBD's earned to 1 re steemer and 1 good commenter... on ALL my posts! [I explain why here](https://steemit.com/economy/@the-traveller/how-to-think-about-steemit-com-and-navigate-it-lessons-from-new-rules-for-the-new-economy-by-kevin-kelly)
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@theywillkillyou ·
$0.04
Hey @jerrybanfield! Not to plug myself, but I did a little shoutout to you in my latest post here: https://steemit.com/steemit/@theywillkillyou/beginner-basics-your-steemit-wallet-steem-vs-sbd-vs-sp-powering-up-and-cashing-out

I hope you don't mind ;) Anyways, big fan & thanks for all your useful advice/posts!
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@timcrypto ·
Good post man 👍🏼
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@tinashe ·
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@tradingpotential ·
Thanks for sharing  :  )
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@trevis ·
ending self upvoting would have a massive effect on how steemit is currently being used. i wonder how many people would use the platform a lot less.
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@unusualmaverick ·
I guess it helps out a lot to upvote yourself if you have a lot of steem power, what about for new accounts?
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@vallesleoruther ·
That is a great thing to ponder upon. But as a minnow I upvote my own posts, I have few followers, and getting extra Steem Power from rewards will be a big help.
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@veganrobot ·
Good thinking, giving upvotes to community helps it grow :)
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@vegansilverstack ·
Yeah man when you reach a certain level, I feel like upvoting your own posts or comments doesn't really make sense. You nailed it. I'm not at that point yet, but I'm sure I will be one day, where I'll feel much better giving all of my vote to others.
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@victorgzus ·
Nice post Jerry
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@viniciosanchez ·
I am completely new to steemit, but I also voted my first own post as well. After reading this article, I will focus more on collaborating with my voting power to the community
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@vipclub ·
What is this self upvoting that you speak of?
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@virtualcoin ·
$0.16
Congratulations! You took one step further to become a better person
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@waniowski ·
$0.02
wish i could invest also 15 btc...
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@watcheronhill ·
thanks for such valuable information
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@weetreebonsai ·
Resteemit in support....
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@winner17 ·
wonderful
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@xdark21 ·
After the hard fork steam user and not upvote my post or my comment it's like they pay for that upvote from there one portofolio.i dont know whats its happening the upvote on you one post its a problem.
steemit has to make some new regulations for the upvote on you one post
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@yardieonwallst ·
welll i agree allows the community to interact more
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@yoda1917 ·
Upvoted...  thank you for your post.   It is genuine.   I believe the greedy practices will tear steemit apart.

I have put a lot of effort into this issue lately as I am trying to help my fellow minnows.   Here is my latest 

https://steemit.com/selfvotes/@yoda1917/steemit-is-coming-to-an-end-say-good-bye-or-let-s-do-something-about-it

I feel it is of value I hope you can help me get some exposure for it.


Thank you in advance :)
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@yonny ·
It is an interesting subject and one I have mixed emotions about. It would certainly drive users try even harder to produce great content and also to try even harder to engage with others in the community.
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@yoza.ossan ·
Yeh I noticed as well that dan declined payout on his programming update post, I thought thats really noble of him. He's "Staying Majestic" Good on you for choosing to do so as well Jerry.
i think for the minnows though upvoting our own comments helps us get the needed exposure to grow. Just some food for thought and why I now know I can upvote my own posts ( wasnt aware it was a thing for comments until today)

https://media.giphy.com/media/eoxomXXVL2S0E/giphy.gif
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@zebbad ·
Such a nice thing to do. 

I will also do the same, although the weight of my max vote seems to be $0.01

I don't need to reward myself for my own content, I'll leave that to people who find my content of interest or value. This way I'll have more reward for the content produced by others.
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@zeidlitwhips ·
$0.44
Now that is what I call being self conscious and decent individual @jerrybanfield. Sometimes it's really ok to like like/upvote your posts and comments because it's human nature to boost once self and move up a ladder. Thanks for help and knowledge you're giving us about Steemit and crypto currency markets.
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@zero1ten ·
IMO up voting your own post is like scoring your own performance in a competition or grading yourself in school because I believe it should always be utilized as your agreement to someone's post/article/comment/idea alone without any biases towards the person posting otherwise it defeats the purpose of up voting when you do it with prejudice.
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