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Voting with 1% of Voting Power? Why? Any Advantage?
I am not a programmer so I do not understand much of all this but ... 

# What advantage does it give you to vote at 1%? 

I see that many are doing that in Steemit these days. For example...

 ![steemstats   Steem Account Statistics   Monitoring.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmURWnGbo3A36fZEzzwtv4T28EtFvgNxGRjvVS8KEULiZR/steemstats%20%20%20Steem%20Account%20Statistics%20%20%20Monitoring.png)

I personally do not see any meaning to this but hey, maybe it's my ignorance and that's why I ask. It seems to me that it is a bot that people follow and vote the same as him at 1% but very surely I will be wrong.

Thank you in advance for any clarification you can give me.

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@ebryans ·
I have seen votes at 0.7%! What then happens is that people follow the trend, not realising how it all works.
If a vote does not register it goes into a dustpile which then gets distributed back proportionally to the holders of SP - thereby handing even that lot to the top 100 or so. I have seen tiny minnows voting at 5%.
There is a counter argument which says, as your vote is worth so little, all that matters is that people see you voted for them! So, with a vote worth $0.0001, what's the difference - vote like crazy and see if you can pick up some followers.
Personally, I would ban it. But ... I just know where the system is heading.
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@juanmiguelsalas ·
Thanks for your comment @ebryans :)
>all that matters is that people see you voted for them!... vote like crazy and see if you can pick up some followers.

I thought it at first but I did not want to be so badly thought ... maybe not all but many should think so surely. Luckily there is Steemstats ;)
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@felixxx ·
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This is @fyrstikken's idea.

https://steemit.com/winfrey-guild/@fyrstikken/the-winfrey-guild-48-hours-report-and-debate-feedback-wanted

the 'winfrey guild' upvotes everything with 1%.
I think it's a complete waste of energy, completely pointless and somewhat annoying; 

But it's their Steem Power and they can use it, as they see fit.
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@acidyo ·
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>I think it's a complete waste of energy, completely pointless and somewhat annoying;

+1
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@englishtchrivy ·
@felixxx I totally agree that its a waste of VI and it kind'a have a mean appeal 
but its their voting power so sighs we can't tell them where to use it 
I just wish they just choose good quality posts and give at least 20% instead of voting with just 1% and voting on everything including posts that looks like rushed and not even giving value.
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@juanmiguelsalas ·
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>I think it's a complete waste of energy

Completely agree with you and thanks a lot for the link. 

Sadly as you well say it is their Voting Power and they can use it as the want.
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@uwelang ·
Maybe this is the motto of the 1% clique :-( @felixxx - but could also be seen in a different context

http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/save-power-don-t-waste-it-1.png
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@juanmiguelsalas ·
Very bad motto for Steemit in general ;)
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@oaldamster ·
My votes are always 100% manual, any post, replies too. :-)
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@englishtchrivy ·
@oaldasmter ohhh I'm glad to see you 
new change is coming [here](https://steemit.com/steem/@clayop/making-steemit-better-a-proposal-to-flatten-the-rewards-curve)
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@oaldamster ·
Thank you for pointing it out to me Ivy. 😉👍
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@juanmiguelsalas ·
:) I vote always every comment so I had to change the power to 50% cause I was all the time in red color, between 15%-20% VP
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@englishtchrivy ·
@juanmiguelsalas I used to let it hit 30% but my VI has more effect even on good posts that are getting cents if its up to at least 60%
am trying to get it up to 70% but its too hard to not return votes specially if the voter of my post has a good post with extra efforts and are just earning cents - it pains me to watch!
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@oaldamster ·
Yes, it can hit on the VP when one is very active with replies and voting for them. And it takes quite a while to recover from 15-20%.
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@onetree ·
I'm curious too!
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@playfulfoodie ·
That's something I still don't understand either.

When there was someone flagging everything and everyone, though, these 1% votes helped to cancel it out. So that's where I did understand the value.
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@juanmiguelsalas ·
Thanks for the comment @playfulfoodie :) It could be what you say but even for to cancel the flagging out you need more Voting Power than the flagger... 1% of 100% is nothing.
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@mammasitta ·
What do you suggest should be there minimum ? 20% ?
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@playfulfoodie ·
Those were bots made by people with loads of steem power where even 1% was higher than the flagging account :-)
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@sazbird ·
Never less than a hundred percent here :-)
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@solarguy ·
me too except for comments
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@juanmiguelsalas ·
$0.03
Me too, post 100% and comments at 50%.
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Re: Voting with 1% of Voting Power? Why? Any Advantage?
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@solarguy · (edited)
the cursed 1% vote.

very controversial indeed.

The pros are pretty much all for the voter the receiver doesn't really get much in return.

Some will argue that with a 1% voter can vote more often and there for spread the wealth.

They would need to have well over 30,000 sp probably more in the high 100k's for a 1% vote to give rewards to an author.  How ever the voter will still get 1% of the curation rewards.  If you vote 200 times a day it could add up.

The receiver will feel like crap and like I mentioned, if the voter has such low sp, the author will probably get nothing they can notice in terms of rewards.

Too many l% votes and no or little rewards will chase away the whale bots that are vital for a post to get decent rewards. 

Everything is working as planned i would assume.
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@juanmiguelsalas ·
>The pros are pretty much all for the voter... 
>The receiver will feel like crap and like I mentioned, if the voter has such low sp, the author will probably get nothing they can notice in terms of rewards.

I can see that ;) hehehehehe

Thanks for your comment @solarguy :)
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@juanmiguelsalas ·
77 votes, 44 are at 1% :)
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@solarguy ·
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ouch.   that sucks.  well.  the platform value is crashing.  

I used to get big votes then one day i wrote a post about how the guilds can direct bots to and away from posts.
I never got a whale vote since.  So I am led to believe it is all part of their plan.  
good luck!!
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@uwelang ·
I was just to write about this topic as well! I do not see any sense on that - to save your voting power I can for sure understand you vote lower as 100% - when part of a curation trail I do understand sth like 20% as well but 1% is a waste of time and annoying
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@juanmiguelsalas ·
Very annoying!
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@uwelang ·
will write about it soon - I just need to research a little bit!
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