最近瓜特别多,当然大家知道的可能都是娱乐圈的瓜。从杨颖黄晓明,到郑爽,再到华晨宇。。。以至于都出了一个吃瓜的小游戏。。。 今天要介绍的应该是还没有出圈的瓜。学术圈,这里应该特指生命科学的圈子,最近围绕饶毅,裴钢两人的事情越演越烈,来来回回好几个回合,不断有新的人物入场。 https://www.zhihu.com/question/440902596 可以参考一下,这个链接。 大体的事情是饶毅公开质疑裴钢院士1999年的pnas文章造假。但是裴钢方面不承认,并且自己组织了“第三方”审查之后,宣布没有造假。后续又有几位华人学者写公开的信件给饶毅。饶毅也分别予以回应。(饶毅之所以撕裴钢,原因好像是裴钢要搞饶毅。) 其实两个人的身份一个已经是院士了(裴钢),一个是当年选院士的时候,遇到了不公(国内选院士是根据院士的投票)当年饶毅与施一公一起都是候选人,两人都没有选上,那一届的院士给了研究烟草的。。。后来施一公继续选举,但是饶毅宣布永久退出了。。 两人围绕的点,其实只要第三方公开的做一次实验就好了,但是一直闹到现在。虽说文人相轻,但是两人现在闹到这样子,其实已经快到了,不是你死就是我亡的地步了。其实再说的难听一些,目前两人在学术上花的时间,我猜饶毅会多一些,裴钢早就是院士了,在学术上的时间不会很多。其实最多的还是广大的博后与博士,以及一系列的青年科学家。 20年以前,那时候的科学家,特别是后来建设的学科,大多不靠谱。毕竟都是没有前人指导,都是自己瞎学,所以会有气功的研究之类的东西。但是经过几十年的发展,很多后起的学科经过这段时间的发展,是真的很不错了,但是中间会有很多问题,比如造假,比如学术不端。国内不会有人去怀疑权威,因为自己能不能申请到基金还得看权威。这里的权威也就是院士们。中国的学术圈等级森严,这个也不像别的领域可以引进一些人来做鲶鱼效应,毕竟这个池塘太大了,一两只,几个诺奖引进压根没有用。 饶毅教授的行为,说实话,我内心是支持的,也是十分佩服的。毕竟饶老师早已过了“活下去”的阶段,并且也以及有丰硕的成果。目前的学术圈,的的确确需要大人物,不站在高等阶级上去解决一些问题,这些问题其实大家都知道。但是需要一个人去撕开遮羞布。 两人隔空的对话,这个周末以及来回几次了,不知道春节前是否会有结果。其实大概率是不会有结果的,除非国家级干部出面发声,毕竟学阀们的背后,院士们的背后都是有大佬们站台的。不管结局如何,有这样的事情发生,多少会对学术界的健康产生一些有益的帮助。
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winniex | 0 | 285,096,956,175 | 68.35% | ||
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john371911 | 0 | 647,954,275,802 | 68.35% | ||
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shuxuan | 0 | 2,338,212,331 | 68.35% | ||
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teamcn-shop | 0 | 15,519,560,023 | 68.35% | ||
cwow2 | 0 | 48,091,393,156 | 6.3% | ||
followjohngalt | 0 | 6,024,699,719 | 7% | ||
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kelvinzhang | 0 | 3,838,010,278 | 68.35% | ||
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wherein | 0 | 162,721,938,377 | 50% | ||
zerofive | 0 | 1,148,581,768 | 68.35% | ||
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samsemilia7 | 0 | 8,009,819,337 | 40% | ||
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morningshine | 0 | 84,977,607,891 | 68.35% | ||
cnstm | 0 | 130,018,628,531 | 50% | ||
permaculturedude | 0 | 2,730,268,594 | 7% | ||
cn-activity | 0 | 667,260,555 | 68.35% | ||
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ctime | 0 | 430,123,516,549 | 8% | ||
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haikusailor | 0 | 616,057,554 | 7% | ||
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steemindian | 0 | 562,734,035 | 3.5% | ||
koei | 0 | 1,536,571,861 | 68.35% | ||
delta-clan | 0 | 5,718,557,218 | 68.35% | ||
nympheas | 0 | 11,951,609,841 | 54.68% | ||
shimozurdo | 0 | 582,443,289 | 7% | ||
aaronli.sct | 0 | 728,678,160 | 10% | ||
milu-the-dog | 0 | 3,114,271,959 | 7% | ||
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瓜出不穷啊
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