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· @kencode ·
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Chris4210 where are you?
### @Chris4210 where are you? 
 
Today, my claws come out. I invested my entire life savings into those BLOCKPAY tokens because you promised us that we would get to “share in the rewards from BlockPay transactions as well as value increases from products built by the Company”. 
My life savings: http://cryptofresh.com/u/kencode 
Your promise: http://cryptofresh.com/a/BLOCKPAY 
(more promises found on reddit, facebook, twitter, linkedin and more) 
 
The past couple weeks, Development has come to a crawl Chris, this is very damaging as my Developers and I have no idea where the money is. I heard you were starting another company with xeroc and some shark named constantin. **Is that true?** I even got word that you had my company formally Appraised? **Is that true?** 
 
I have still not been paid my salary, my bills are past due now, my babies are hungry and you know I sure as hell can’t afford a lawyer to track you down. Barely 2 weeks ago you emailed me and said “Current reserves are around 540 BTC + 25k Euro on Bank account”. **Really?** 
 
If that is true, then where is all that money?! I see you have been recently taking out hundreds of thousands of dollars, **where did all that money go?!** 
https://blockchain.info/address/37jDFfS9WJEPL33YivJbnjfQQNU5RjFWFY 
 
How the hell are we going to be able to continue launching crypto products with no money Chris? A Bitshares Worker Proposal? Your investors never agreed to that! 
 
You agreed (multiple ways) that you would stop trying to take charge of my Developers and Rodrigo’s marketing team too. I guess you fail to remember him yelling at you and hanging up on you?? Even emailing you and telling you to stop it. Obviously that contract has also been breached. My Developers said that you contacted them and stated that you are in charge now and I am leaving my own company? **Is that true?!** 
 
You agreed (in person with your lawyer/father, and via email) that if more than $2000 was to be expensed that you would get my permission first! **Where is the money?!** 
 
Your investors deserve to know what I am building, every single week, at a minimum. People love it when I post my weekly technical reports and I will not stop writing them and posting them online to show off what we’re building (including links to our github commits). Apparently, because of this, a couple weeks ago your excuse was “you leave us with no choice but to stop all sales and marketing activities immediately” as if my reports were somehow damaging my own company. You’re kidding, right? If you quit, then why did you start flying around the world on a “BlockPay World Tour”? 1,095 Bitcoins wasn’t enough for you? Now I find out that you are hiding out somewhere in China with your girlfriend. **WTF?!** 
Our commits: https://github.com/kenCode-de?tab=repositories 
1,095 Bitcoins: https://blockpay.ch/newsroom/investor-relations/blockpay-reserves/ 
 
There are currently 762 of us who have trusted you!!!! I’ll be damned if you’re going to steal all of the STEALTH tokens I bought for my company too. 
Holders: http://cryptofresh.com/a/BLOCKPAY 
STEALTH tokens: http://cryptofresh.com/u/bitshares-munich 
 
Attempts to contact you and settle this matter by email, SMS and Telegram have failed. Hopefully this steemit post reaches you. You have left me no choice but to contact the Authorities. 
 
Chris, I was building crypto products before I even met you and refuse to let you destroy my company like this. I gave you 49% of BitShares Munich so that you would pay the bills, and get out there and start marketing the products that I built and continue to build (well, not as of late, obviously). 
 
Going public with this is the right thing to do, as **transparency is required Chris**! Of course this may damage the value of our BLOCKPAY tokens for a bit, but you have left me no choice. As you are well aware, I have always fought for my rights and I will do so once again. As an activist, I assure you I will not stop until you honor the contracts you have made with us, let us see your accounting, pay all of our invoices, answer my questions above, and settle this with me immediately. Since you Follow my blog here on steemit.com, we all know you have been notified. Just as before, I will also send you this notice via email, SMS and Telegram.
 
More posts to come. Stay tuned, this may get bumpy.
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@bxl ·
Oh god, what a shit show. I wondered why Blockpay wasn'r rising together with BTS and STEEM. Now I know. Wasn't easy to find the real reason, though.

This should all have been checked BEFORE a business agreement was made with a known scammer. BLOCKPAY should never ever have  entered into that, whether he is a good developer or not.

You always end up like that with people like that.
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@zelda10 ·
Well the price of BlockPay is not connected to BTS or steemit it has no relation at all. The price of BlockPay has not been affected as I hold BlockPay tokens too, so I am not worried about that. This scammer shoukd be taken out of the company before he makes more shit, he has a US search warrent!
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@bxl ·
Has not been affected? What planet you live on, Its at an all time low!
Steem and BTS just go thru the ceiling.
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@chris4210 · (edited)
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Dear Ken, 
Thank you for your message and questions. I will come back to you and the community as soon as possible to answer open questions adequately and in the most transparent way possible. 

We are still waiting for your lawyers answers regarding a time to meet. 

Best regards, 
chris4210
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@chris4210 ·
$14.53
Dear Community, Dear Ken, 

I'm all about transparency in respect to our investors, supporters, and customers. Please correct me if I am wrong in sharing my and Rodrigo's side of the story too. 

Rodrigo and I did our utmost to grow our company and to follow all common business practices required. All company expenses have been recorded and are accessible by you 24/7 since the beginning of 2015.

All our corporate funds on the blockchains are publicly visible under the following BTC cold storage Adresses:
> 37jDFfS9WJEPL33YivJbnjfQQNU5RjFWFY
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and our company BitShares accounts see https://blockpay.ch/support/official-accounts/ and here https://cryptofresh.com/u/bitshares-munich-wallet 

All bank account histories are also monthly updated and 24/7 available to you. Please feel free to contact me about any unclear expenses. 

Following our latest company growth and success, it is only natural that our expenses are adjusting too. 

____

The company Bitshares Munich is in the middle of preparing another investment round for summer 2017, where due diligence and company evaluation are normal. In our negotiations with leading investors and customers the question of ownership over the intellectual property (IP) rights and trademarks of, including but not limited, **BlockPay, Smartcoins Wallet, C-IPFS, Bridge, Stealth** came up and I was surprised to find out that you did not follow common practice. In my analysis, I had to find out that **nobody in our development team signed the necessary development contracts that would grant the IP rights to Bitshares Munich.** 

Under these circumstances, Rodrigo and I were forced to immediately stop all business development and marketing efforts to protect our investors, customers and our company from potential legal claims. Our company cannot fund and promote products where it does not know if it owns the IP to it. All our requests to Ken to provide the appropriate documentation, contracts, and development agreements have been left unanswered. 

Continue paying for software development that the company does not own is not an option for us. Luckily this can be easily solved with your cooperation. 

In summary, Rodrigo and I are looking forward to solving these issues as soon as possible with you. 

As you already know I am currently on the business trip to Beijing and Shanghai to meet our local businesses partners, BlockPay Ambassadors, potential investors and leading Bitshares community members. It is my goal to improve the relationship between the western and the Chinese community to further grow the Bitshares blockchain. Remember as BitShares Committee member I do not only represent our own company but the whole global Bitshares company to the best of my capabilities. 

I am also going to prepare a small announcement for the next beyond bitcoin radio show to show even more transparency. https://steemit.com/beyondbitcoin/@chris4210/bitshares-hangout-19-w-chris4210-and-officialfuzzy-2017-05-05 

Best regards, 

Christoph Hering 
CEO of Bitshares Munich
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@ash ·
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> kenCode-de/smartcoins-wallet is licensed under the
MIT License
A short and simple permissive license with conditions only requiring preservation of copyright and license notices. Licensed works, modifications, and larger works may be distributed under different terms and without source code.

would exclude smartcoin wallet from any IP whatsoever. pretty sure everything else is developed and released under MIT as well.
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@cm-steem ·
> Continue paying for software development that the company does not own is not an option for us. 

Isn't withholding payment not violating his workers rights? Or is Bitshares Munich a separate company from Blockpay and so it's more of a inter-company contract issue? If I was a programmer and my boss withheld my pay because of a project management issue I'd be pretty disgruntled too.

> In my analysis, I had to find out that nobody in our development team signed the necessary development contracts that would grant the IP rights to Bitshares Munich.

So who owns the IP rights? Nobody? Or is it the fact that said software is MIT licensed that is the issue?

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> Chris wrote:
> All our requests to Ken to provide the appropriate documentation, contracts, and development agreements have been left unanswered.

> Kencode wrote:
> Attempts to contact you and settle this matter by email, SMS and Telegram have failed.

Mutual communication issues?
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@idealist ·
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Let's really hope you find a solution! The situation is somewhat paradoxical, as contracts are supposed to provide security, but the dispute about them is guaranteed to harm everyone involved - which is exactly the opposite of what was intended by everyone. There are at least 4 possible outcomes:
1. No-one gives up, and everything fails.
2. Someone gives up and survives, while the other gets his will
3. Both give in and find a compromise
4. Both commit to a common solution and find an outcome that combines the benefits of both opinions. This one would require unusual humility and vulnerability.

We all love you guys from BlockPay+. Please both be open and let each other hear about your fears. That way you can understand both sides better, and thus the real issues.
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@jonnybitcoin ·
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This sounds like Ken wants to keep everything MIT licence and you don't.
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@mranderson ·
You accepted money from the world and have sold yourself as a open source and a company that strives to bring positive change through open transparent exchange of knowledge (permission-less money) for all to enjoy......right before Ken's (of course all the hard working developers) invention is spread......you now call yourself a corporation and try to hide behind the most ridiculous invention your type have come up with [Intellectual Property].  

It doesn't matter what your attorneys tell you.  BlockPay will never succeed because you have poisoned your reputation and in a community who understands immutability, you might as well save all of us from any further wasting of our time.
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@cm-steem ·
> I have still not been paid my salary, my bills are past due now, my babies are hungry and you know I sure as hell can’t afford a lawyer to track you down.

Kencode stated that he is unable to pay for lawyers as he hasn't been paid for his work, surely waiting for responses from his lawyers is an indefinite waiting period then? Can't you talk without involving lawyers? I thought you were working together? Go get HR involved, lol.
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@freiheit50 ·
Ich hoffe, alles wird gut, Chris!
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@idealist ·
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Thanks for keeping a polite tone! I really hope you both can hold back any anger and not try to harm each other. If you are men of integrity - which I believe you are - you will be able to reach an agreement that not only avoids harming everyone, but ends up making us all stronger. Please take a long look in the mirror and remain humble. All the best!
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@jabberw0cky ·
I dont think you need a lawyer to answer some of kens questions Chris. Its very fishy that ken, who we have known for years, has to come on here and adk where you are and where the money is. 
I hope this doesnt hurt bitshares.
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@liondani · (edited)
$0.30
Looking forward you both will find an agreement  and moving forward. Both must retreat.Nobody will gain something if you guys come to a conflict. Don't waste your/our time convincing us who was wrong and who was right. I assure you that if you not stop the "fight" ASAP, both of you will harm your reputation... fair or not.
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@marcosespes1 ·
$0.79
Mr Chris.  I don´t know you I have nothing to do with your company or money.   You have managed a nice, low tone answer for everyone here to see and not going nuts on you.
Now, pick up the phone and call Ken straight away, dude.  (Just plain advise here)
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@constantin-ag · (edited)
$21.94
Kencode,

We have met in Munich a few weeks ago. Back then, I was very impressed by Christoph and his presentation during House of Nakamoto in Austria.

In fact, I had my money set up to invest in his company, BitShares Munich, and support it fully, with my time and my contacts,

Then, I met you.

In our first meeting, statements have been made by you that forced me to change my mind. Not only did you not accept any offer I have made to you with statements like "over my dead body", but you also insulted your business partners Christoph and Rodrigo while talking to me, a potential investor. This appeared to me as very unprofessional.

I still liked Christoph and wanted to support him and his business. We made our usual thorough background investigations.

For those that haven't done their due diligence, here some links and facts we have found:

 * http://archive.is/XBw1a
 * warrent in florida
 * international warrant

Also interesting to watch:

### Gun School / Ken Silver SCAM Bonita Springs, FL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f191hnL4snU

### Ken Silver / Gun School LCSO Range Proposal Goes Down in Flames 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC3R4Nf9piE

### Gun School / Ken Silver Falsifies Better Business Bureau Credentials 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rxNRnSP6PQ

### Ken Silver / Gun School Closes Amid State Criminal Fraud Investigation 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J14umqpWU0

Still, because of my faith in Christoph, his plans and opportunities, the interest I have in the community and the ecosystem; I wanted to find a peaceful resolution through my lawyers to this and not create unnecessary drama. You were invited to multiple meetings over the last 6 weeks by your employer, you choose not to appear. Subsequently you leave us no alternatives but to confront your current malpractices. It is our every intention to protect current investors in Blockpay.
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@michaelx ·
I found all of this last year when Ken double crossed me on an agreement and was publicly trashing my name and reputation while backdoor dealing.  Yes I have lots of evidence to back it up.  Glad to see you do your diligence  @constantin-ag
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@curiousmind ·
$18.02
Dear Kenneth (kencode) Silver,

Your recent posts on the subject of Bitshares Munich have attracted my attention as I am an investor. You have not got your facts straight which opts me to respond immediately as you are seriously damaging my financial interests.

Christoph Hering was the first investor in Bitshares Munich with 20.000 Euro fiat currency of his own money. He took the massive risk of investing in you. 

Secondly, money in Bitshares Munich belongs to the investors, not individuals, whether that is you or anyone else. As CTO, or technical officer, the financial side of the company is not your job. It is highly unprofessional to share details incorrectly, to say the very least. Your shareholder rights are the same as anyone else’s and governed by proper law.

The tone in your communication is suggestive and creates and atmosphere of distrust and malpractice on behalf of Christoph. As this is beside the truth, if not even with malicious intent, I feel obliged to inform your audience better. To my knowledge Christoph Hering is completely trustworthy with my investment money, however I regret to state, you certainly are not. 

The present withholding of further investment in Bitshares Munich from me and others has to do with your presence in the company, the malpractices that have led to criminal procedures against you in the past, your incapability to deliver the software to Bitshares Munich and your constant refusal to respond to repetitive invitations of the lawyers of Bitshares Munich over the last weeks. 

They apparently want a meeting on your malpractices with expenses, declarations and your being in default on deliveries. Your refusal to do so caused damage to the company and made it lose customers. If you are indeed knowingly incapable to deliver, you committed fraud.

Two of your posts I would like to bring to your attention:

### 1. Damaging the BlockPay brand
Your post destroyed faith in the Blockpay product and reflects you as a scammer. Further action on behalf of the investors is taken.

https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@kencode/lessons-learned-and-grandma-friendly-crypto

### 2. Copyright Law
The unauthorised use of copyright material and the unauthorised use of privacy protected information is subject for legal investigation. Bitshares Munich has confirmed it never issued a consent. Apart from being personal liable, you also made the company liable to legal pursuit.

https://steemit.com/news/@kencode/ann-introducing-carbon-smartcoins-wallet-v2-0

I had a phone call with Christoph Hering (CEO of Bitshares Munich) just today and he was very transparent. The only way forward for Bitshares Munich after this, is without any ties to Ken Silver (or Ken Code).

Christoph is currently in China at work for the company. He confirmed to have found a solution that will protect the other investors once Ken Code has left the organisation completely. 

It was clear that investors have stated only to move forward without you.
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@cm-steem ·
$5.74
>The unauthorised use of copyright material and the unauthorised use of privacy protected information is subject for legal investigation. Bitshares Munich has confirmed it never issued a consent. Apart from being personal liable, you also made the company liable to legal pursuit.

What do you mean? Was there music in the carbon wallet video? Even if you get a youtube strike it's not the end of the world..

> I had a phone call with Christoph Hering (CEO of Bitshares Munich) just today and he was very transparent. The only way forward for Bitshares Munich after this, is without any ties to Ken Silver (or Ken Code).

Wow, this has escalated quickly..
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@mranderson ·
$5.75
Pay attention everyone.  This is what happens time and time again to creative people.  The whole time Ken was inventing and creating things with his mind that would have improved the quality of life for everyone, the bean counters spent all their time in the darkness figuring out a way to separate him from his creation.

They use legal liability jargon, back room deals, claim money is the final decision maker, copyrights (capitalist delusional entitlements), and personal attacks.  

I do not know the specifics of what has happened and even though I was a blockpay amabassador (who has basically worked for free for a good long while) I don't think it is my business.  Let this be a lesson to all the hard working people in the world that continue to be exploited for their talents and physical work, which usually results in that rare human gift of caring more about creating than taking.  

Shame on all of you.  I don't care if everything you say about Ken is true.  This disgusting display of "business as usual" will lead each of you to get what you deserve......nothing but your old, lonely, empty heart that will feel empty until you disappear from this planet just as fast as your short lived idol [money] ruled the earth..  

The creative will not be control, the genius will not be your property.
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@dutchpainter ·
50% off
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@cm-steem ·
No joke.. putting some low buy orders in to catch weak hands, muaha! :D
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@huku ·
Sympathize with each other but you are losing this money :((
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@idealist ·
$6.60
I hope everyone doesn't upvote this. It's good to be transparent, but this doesn't have to make it to the trending page.

Let's hope you find an agreement! Ask for support from the Bitshares community. It is in everybody's interest to see you succeed with Blockpay and Stealth.
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@full-steem-ahead ·
Same here, vote removed.
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@glitterfart ·
I agree, transparency is important but Blockpay and BTS holders may be hurt by this news. It's important we all know what is happening but without scaring away investors. 
I also decided to NOT vote this post even if I fully support you and your project.
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@vato ·
Agreed, vote removed
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@kencode ·
$0.26
update: he has finally agreed to meet with me this coming week. i will post again as soon as i can. also, a friend has loaned me 2btc to help get my family thru this month.
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@cm-steem ·
Good to hear :)
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@mranderson ·
Ken do you have an address we can send donations?
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@kencode ·
update2: this is priceless (fast-forward to 18m:20s).. 
https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/2017-05-05-bitshares-hangout-w-christoph-hering-fuzzy-raw-recording-for-impatients#t=18:20 
fyi, i'll be working offline for the next few days.. stay tuned. :)
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@fufubar1 ·
Re:
> update2: this is priceless (fast-forward to 18m:20s).. 

Excuse my ignorance, but all I hear is from this Hering guy to be in China and working to grow bitshares and his company.
Why have you as the tech guy not been in China as well? I suspect with all the crypto hype, there should be enough money to go there.

I have been part of these hangouts for a couple months now - and I never saw you speak up there. Why is that?
Instead of making weird comments on somone being investigated in a live show, why not join the show next time?
This Hering seems to be there quite often .. why would he if he did something wrong?

Anyways, is bitshares munich going to attend the consensus conference in NY (the company is sponsor of the conference)?
Please share some photos of you guys standing next to your booth in New York (if you have any) - your pics from blockshow looked great!

Still having hopes for BLOCKPAY to rise high again!
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@zelda10 ·
I am a big BlockPay holder, and you KenCode, Ken Solar are destroying the value of your own company and the effort of your business partners and investors. Your salaries should be removed and you should get out of your own company and let the guys work. I dont get it why if you have an international warrant you are still discussing things that you dont deserve!
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@kencode ·
I'm joining fuzzy on mumble again for his weekly radio show (fast-forward the audio to 47min14sec): 
https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/bitshares-hangout-24-w-chris4210-officialfuzzy-2017-06-09#t=47:14 
 
Rodrigo, Angie, Martin and Miguel (BitShares Munich IVS related, and BlockPay Ambassadors) expose some very interesting points (fast-forward the audio to 34min7sec): 
https://soundcloud.com/beyond-bitcoin-hangouts/bitshares-open-source-hangout-25-2017-06-16#t=34:07 
 
Angie also seeking him: 
https://steemit.com/chriswhereareyou/@angievillarreal/where-is-the-loyalty-in-the-world/ 
 
Anyway, thanx to so much moral and financial support from the Steem and Bitshares communities, I am hereby resuming my weekly reports. Here is the first: 
https://steemit.com/news/@kencode/back-to-work-weekly-update-for-blockpay-stealth-c-ipfs-carbon-and-more
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@konelectric ·
I was wanding why the last Blockpay vidio featering Chris was removed. This might explain this. Real hope things work out.
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@bunny ·
The labour cost is much cheaper in China. Block pay must already found Chinese resource to get woke done in much more faster way
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@konelectric · (edited)
$0.03
Sounds like Ken was working for free. How much cheaper can you get then that?
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@mranderson ·
$1.57
Well there seems to be some very big issues with any one of those behaviors from a BitShares Committee Member, BlockPay CEO, host of BitShares Beyond Bitcoin.........."Leading" the team who arguably brings the biggest value potential to BitShares with promises of stealth, global adoption, partnerships.  To keep this in the dark to the general public and have a immutable ledger that can't be faked to fit the story later would end much worse.

I can tell you that I definitely drew back some of my recent excess risk, but I still have kept a good chunk in BTS.  If this disaster was handled anyway differently than Ken has so honorably done here.......I'd cleared everything and never have given BTS (possibly even Steemit) another thought.

This is the time for large stake holders to wake up, turn off the autopilot and get this vehicle back on the road.
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@cass ·
IMO **Bitshares survived much worser situations in past and still florish** ... pity for sure that people who worked together over months are getting divided in this manner ...

**Personally thinking, we should not talk about other people disputes** if we don't know both sides and i'm pretty sure, nobody except Chris and Ken, have this knowledge ... well .. good luck to you both - pity to see community getting somehow splitted again ...
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@nukun ·
Nice post
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@oldtimer ·
I'm glad that I'd sold all my blockpay tokens for steem a while ago.
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@team101 ·
Good post.
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@williambanks ·
$11.17
@kencode I don't mean to insert myself into whatever is going on here.  But  VIVA is in the middle of an ICO and frankly we could use some qualified developers.

The ICO hasn't raised the multi-millions that some of these projects have, but we're not really trying to blow up right now and instead we're focused on steady sustainable growth.  

You mentioned three problems we might be able to help with...
>I have still not been paid my salary, my bills are past due now, my babies are hungry and you know I sure as hell can’t afford a lawyer to track you down. 

We have enough now we can pay a regular salary to devs, it's not a hell of a lot but it's enough to pay some bills and put food on the table.  

Anyways, I like your work.  I have the deepest respect for you as a developer and as a human being.  Our assets are audited and verified and I'd like to extend a hand up if we can help you.

If you're interested in coming over to see what we're up to, then please stop by https://chat.vivaco.in and ask for an invite to #crownholders , you can show them this and they'll know I nominated you for a merit crown based on your contributions to blockchain tech.
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@alexrickard86 · (edited)
$3.29
As William said viva is looking for good developers to help with the project, it would help pay some bills and if they can achieve their plans this I think would be a great opportunity for you. Accept the invite and have a chat with William and see what you think
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@liondani · (edited)
$2.00
After your offer to Ken I see the potential that his current bad situation can transform to one of his biggest bless in life. Amazing! I bet he can't think clear at the moment because he seems emotional  too much stressed but I am confident when he calms down a little bit he will realize/recognize the big opportunity. Crossing fingers and expecting the best turn out for all involved. 

https://workplacepsychology.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/jfk-crisis-danger-and-opportunity.png
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@marcosespes1 ·
$0.03
WOW, now that is the Steemit spirit, we really help each other here.   Could this be a new milestone for Steemit? First job contract over the chain?  Long life to you and the Viva project, Mr. William
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@xeroc ·
$14.38
All that I feel comfortable saying publicly is, that I kindly ask @kencode to step down and cooperate with Christoph Hering to resolve the BitShares Munich conflict, nicely.
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@cm-steem ·
Why should kencode step down?
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@xeroc ·
> All that I feel comfortable saying publicly is ... (see above)
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@onceuponatime ·
$3.90
@Xeroc Since kencode has NEVER owned less than 51% of bitshares munich, please tell me why he should step down? Why  would he cooperate, on matters with which he does not agree, with Christoph? He sold 49% of his company in order for Christoph to be the public face so that Ken could concentrate on the actual development of the products, the vision. The company **KEN CREATED** had the philosophical perspective of benefiting humanity and the world. Ken is being done a grave injustice.
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@zelda10 ·
Now I understand why the investors and business partners want him out of the company! Check this out!

http://web.horde.to/scammerkensilver.blogspot.ca/
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@zelda10 ·
http://bewareofkensilver.blogspot.mx/2014/01/history.html?m=1
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@zelda10 ·
KenSolar is a scam! 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vis6k/update_140k_eplug_meshnet_device_crowdfunding/
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Since the first day I invested on the BlockPay tokens, I did a background check since I am from the US. I found out, that KenCode has over 2000 sues from people expending a refund from him from products he said that he would deliver. Like the solar, lotto scam. Kencode run out of his country to Germany to avoid fraud and scam prosecution from the state of Florida. He had open investigations by the state of Florida. As an investor , I totally agree for him to stop working for the company. As you all know the ICO round that Bitshares Munich made, the money was to operate the company and grow the business. That money is not from Ken even if he has a 51% share of the company. The company owns the money not him. Please guys open your eyes. This is a legal business case, don't speculate if you don't have any legal or business background on these topics!
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