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· @kevinwong · (edited)
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@cryptosi ·
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I lost faith in steem some time ago, due to the Whale problem and the fact that only the whales can take away their own power. However Steem is still VERY useful, if only as an immutable ledger for text communication and broadcasts. I do share with you that Steem will grow during 2017, I personally will be using it quite a lot. However I feel that the financial cases for using steem are flawed. A basic income is granted to EVERYONE, steem is administered by the whales. I've not fully considered how much of an effect the 3 month power down will have, but my initial thoughts are it will go some way to removing their seemingly limitless power. Great article though thanks for sharing. Ive been following you for months now
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@kevinwong · (edited)
Thanks @cryptosi for the follow and response :) 

I don't particularly see whale concentration as a problem, especially atm since that we're still considered in the early stages. In my mind, the network is considerably decentralized, also with curation guilds these days to spread the votes a little more. I remember when I joined few months ago when Steem was about 20-25 cents, and I was lucky enough to hit thousands on a single post. These days even 300 bucks seems difficult at the same price level. It's weird that I'm saying that the network is improving even though my own potential payouts are much lesser these days!

>However I feel that the financial cases for using steem are flawed

Not sure what you're talking about, any example of the financial cases that you mentioned?
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@cryptosi ·
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Currently if you invest money into steem, you are simply handing your money over to whales for them to disperse as they see fit. Whales and even guilds can disperse payments but they never actually need to invest. This is what I mean by flawed financial cases.  However the power of steems community cannot be denied, and if the merit system is overhauled then steem could go back to a $400 million marketcap overnight
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@dodders007 ·
I'm hopeful for steem too. Nice post.
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@ebryans ·
I think you need a more robust disclaimer - you heard me yesterday and you have no justification to purport as you do in the face of reality - this post is classic whale strategy - lots of votes, no content - well done kevin - very very wong
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@kevinwong ·
Of course I'm writing this to hold or improve the price, even tagged this post as "hype".
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@ebryans ·
I would not want to be your lawyer
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@liondani ·
Are you jealous or what?
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@ebryans ·
@liondani, I am 'what' - and I am honest and I am enjoying another bullet, this one from you
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@good-karma · (edited)
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>Steemit acts like a crowdfunding platform that goes to all kinds of entities (groups, individuals).

You are absolutely right...I have touched [subject briefly myself here](https://steemit.com/steem/@good-karma/why-steem-is-successful-dao). Potential is huge and we only see tip of the iceberg, as @ned said it couple times. 2017 will be year of Steem!
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@kevinwong ·
Yup I read that piece! Very interesting times ahead.
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@hilarski ·
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2017 is going to be a great year for the crypto currency community and I am sure Steemit will get plenty of love.
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@kevinwong ·
Well, one can hope :D
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@kyusho ·
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Nice insightful look at the possibilities... in these markets any and all logical approaches could flip on a dime... it's all a crap-shoot.
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@kevinwong ·
All my points may not apply at all hahah. Anything can happen, maybe even an unheard of coin suddenly comes into the market wiping everything clean..
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@immarojas ·
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That is very much possible..but where is the fun and anticipation without that mindset?
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@kyusho ·
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And that maybe the fun of it all... I hope you have a very prosperous New Year!
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@lazariko12 ·
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Very informative post, thanks for sharing, Kevin. I enjoyed reading it!
Upvoted and followed.
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@kevinwong ·
Thanks @lazariko12 for taking the time reading it, glad you enjoyed it :)
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@mallorcaman ·
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Awesome post, Im gonna power up another 1000 steem today
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@kevinwong ·
Nicely done, hopefully it's part of your disposable income.. then that's fine.
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@shla-rafia ·
Yes, perfect read for the morning here
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@mammasitta ·
I should be more active again but 2016 robbed my energy ....let's get it in 2017. Great summery Kevin
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@montreal32 ·
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Thank you for sharing this information.
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@kevinwong ·
Thanks, I hope there's at least some in it instead of just pure hype :)
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@pnc ·
I consider Steem Blockchain one of the most advance Blockchain for these reasons: zero transaction fee,  3 seconds confirmation time, can process upto 100 000 trx/s, first mover advantage in social & mainstream. These are huge advantage to take in consideration when comparing with other Blockchain (Ethereum, Synereo, Akasha etc.) . It's take to build a business or a good community. It's a baby and you need to make sure he grow well. So I'm not worry about the whales issue. They don't control de network, nor the Blockchain.  Technologically speaking, Steem has the last miles possible in transaction fee (zero). Imagine if you are the CEO of social media start-up building on Ethereum and some one just announce to you that your competitior is charging zero fee. What would be your reaction, where do you think your customer/user will go when they learn that Busy.org , SteemQ, SteemSport (all Steem Blockchain projects) are charging zero fee in transactions.  That's were I see the power of Steem and It will be difficult to beat this advantage.  Imagine that with our reputation system, we can start building insurance, micro-payment, remittance services for developing world, build on Steem Blockchain.  The future is bright here, we just need to give the community time and keep participating. Steem is 2 yeards ahead of the curve. That's why people don't understand what is really going on because Bitcoin is still finding it's way to scale. Dan the genius behind Steem have been building these tools since 2013. Power to Steem.
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@rubenalexander ·
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I think this positive community and steemit ability to actualize ideas is very compelling. 

Here's to a great 2017! 🍻
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@kevinwong ·
Assuming that good actors have a net positive effect over this low-barrier, but ***lossy system*** :)

Cheers buddy.
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@screenname ·
Re: STEEM 2017
<p>This post has been ranked within the top 10 most undervalued posts in the second half of Dec 27. We estimate that this post is undervalued by $22.29 as compared to a scenario in which every voter had an equal say.</p> 
<p>See the full rankings and details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-dec-27---part-ii">The Daily Tribune: Dec 27 - Part II</a>. You can also read about some of our methodology, data analysis and technical details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/introducing-the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-nov-04---part-i">our initial post</a>.</p>
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@senseiteekay ·
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A little birdy told me that there's going to be another roadmap announcement on the 1st of January as well, from another start up using `steem_api` for something revolutionary to its industry. Exciting times ahead!
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@good-karma ·
more there is the better it is for the ecosystem. 😊
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@senseiteekay ·
My thoughts exactly :)
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@kevinwong ·
Let's hope something more can be said exactly one year from now :)
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@mattclarke ·
Interesting.
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@singapasee ·
$0.02
it's a beautiful view.... Hebat teman ku @kevinwong
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@kevinwong ·
Thanks @singapasee :)
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@skypal ·
$0.05
"All currency values are just human beliefs anyway" The amount of times I have tried to explain that to people recently...
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@kevinwong ·
Lol. There's a great writeup for this, and makes for a nice read too 
http://ideas.ted.com/why-humans-run-the-world/
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@skypal ·
Cool article!
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@steevc ·
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I think some new communities will form here. That's a good way to build usage. Perhaps the new features will include groups, something like Reddit. I'm excited to see what they will come up with
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@kevinwong ·
Let's wait for the 1/1 roadmap! :D I hope it's not one that over-promises though!
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@stephen-somers ·
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It will be interesting to see if the BTC spike has another leg to go or a proper correction takes place. I agree a lot of ALT coins prices have suffered with capital flowing into BTC.  I suspect we'll know within 24hrs.
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@kevinwong ·
BTC could go way higher.. I don't know. A rich system gets richer, perhaps with all the hype going all around :)
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@stephen-somers ·
Here's  hoping the price blasts all the way up to $1200 and beyond
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@tarekadam ·
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Great post and I share your optimism. Did I understand correctly that you assume the steem price will be 15 cents in 6 years from now? I cannot imagine and hope not that this will be the case.
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@kevinwong · (edited)
That's just an assumption at 60 million USD valuation @ 400 million Steem tokens that will be in the market (assuming all liquid) in 6 years. 60 mil / 400 mil is 15 cents :)
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@thecryptofiend ·
Great points:)
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