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My Hunt for HBD | Providing HBD Liquidity on pHBD-USDC is The Smartest Thing You Can do to Moon Hive by khaleelkazi

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My Hunt for HBD | Providing HBD Liquidity on pHBD-USDC is The Smartest Thing You Can do to Moon Hive
![image.png](https://images.hive.blog/DQmXS89XwqCYQNcYsJ74FEH5k2vDQRi4q22cii3Y8JNF8fB/image.png)

My hunt for HBD started right when the witnesses announced that the fixed-interest rate of HBD was being raised from 12% to 20%.

I already knew that we were developing pHBD for PolyCUB but when this was announced, it lit a fire underneath us. As someone who holds 1M+ HIVE, I truly want to see this blockchain flourish. Along with that LeoFinance is built on Hive and what's good for Hive is good for LEO!

ICYMI: pHBD is a wrapped version of HBD on the Polygon Network. You can seamlessly wrap and unwrap HBD using https://wleo.io/hbd

*note: if you're looking for a super easy, 3 step tutorial on how to do this, [check out this video](https://docs.polycub.com/mechanics/phbd/how-to-wrap-hbd-into-phbd)!*

## Why Everyone on Hive Has an Incentive to Provide pHBD-USDC Liquidity

If you're on Hive, you have a deep incentive to provide liquidity on pHBD-USDC. Why? 2 main reasons:
1. pHBD-USDC is vital to the adoption of HBD
2. pHBD-USDC pays a higher APY than native HBD staking

## pHBD-USDC is vital to the adoption of HBD

![image.png](https://images.hive.blog/DQmdHWHjxE86aw6imxHfpgiMnJwzRSyByYDZLRGd28Nzssa/image.png)

I run in a lot of different DeFi circles these days. I've been talking to them lately about the MASSIVE opportunity that is HBD. 

With the HBD savings rate at 20%, these whales are highly motivated to get their hands on HBD and deposit it on the Hive blockchain to earn a 20% fixed interest yield.

Many of these whales are currently staked on Anchor using the UST (Terra's Stabelcoin) token to earn 20% fixed yield.

This is a ridiculously important opportunity. HBD is one of the oldest stablecoins in the crypto industry and now it is paying a competitive stablecoin yield to every other platform - including the fastest growing stablecoin on the planet (UST). 

#### Why Aren't the Whales Buying?

But ser, why aren't those whales buying and staking a ton of HBD?

They can't.

Literally - they can't. There is no onramp and offramp liquidity for HBD. The best place to buy it 2 days ago was the internal market where you had to buy in a few hundred dollar increments very quickly or use a bot to try and get a decent price.

There is literally no HBD liquidity out there right now.

I managed to do an OTC deal to get 100k HBD at a 2% premium. This was the best HBD liquidity source I was able to find and I found it on Twitter. 

As of ~24 hours ago, the **best place to buy HBD** is now on PolyCUB.com/farms using the pHBD token. You can swap into pHBD using any Polygon-based asset on platforms like [Paraswap](https://app.paraswap.io/#/?network=polygon).

Just 24 hours after launching, pHBD-USDC already has $230k in liquidity and it is growing every minute. We need this liquidity pool to reach $5M.

I believe that a $5M liquidity pool is the potential critical mass to onboard a bunch of DeFi whales into the HBD stablecoin and get them to either
1. Provide HBD as pHBD-USDC liquidity and further deepen the pool
2. Unwrap pHBD they buy into HBD and stake on-chain for 20% fixed interest yield

## pHBD-USDC pays a higher APY than native HBD staking

![image.png](https://images.hive.blog/DQmWQDaEJtFkAb8SHNESgUQkZquXQq8Tpq1PnFKTnELszpe/image.png)

While I love the Hive community and know that many of us can rally behind a cause just for the sole reason of it being good for Hive, I also know that personal incentives matter a lot. 

In the world of DeFi, incentives are everything. Our goal is to make PolyCUB to HBD what Anchor is to UST. PolyCUB can be the premier platform to stake HBD and earn high yield while people who want more conservative, native HBD yield can stake HBD directly on-chain.

Right now, POLYCUB is paying 58% APR (or over 75% APY) for anyone staking pHBD-USDC liquidity in the Vault. 

This APR is likely to drop and hover around 30% APR. We plan to keep updating the Multiplier on the pHBD-USDC vault to maintain a 30% APR.

There are a couple reasons for this:
1. pHBD-USDC generates massive revenue for PolyCUB's PoL through wrapping fees and built-in arb fees that are collected while PolyCUB's arb bot maintains the $1 peg for pHBD
2. xPOLYCUB governance is about to launch and most xPOLYCUB whales are Hive/HBD whales providing liquidity to this vault. They'll be able to vote more yield into the pHBD-USDC vault
3. It's great for Hive and I am a Hive whale. What's good for Hive is good for LeoFinance and the growth of our ecosystem within Hive. We'll always aim to support and build this ecosystem

## So... Will you help us? Will you help us build the largest source of liquidity for HBD so we can onboard DeFi whales who want 20% stablecoin yield with no hassle? 

All you have to do is:
1. Wrap HBD into pHBD
2. Provide pHBD - USDC liquidity on https://polycub.com/farms
3. Earn 58% APR for doing so + know that you're one of the first people to seed deep liquidity for HBD and that means that you are playing a **vital** role in building the Hive ecosystem




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@akumagai · 
That last statement sound like a recruitment drive for the US Army lol.
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@alex-rourke · 
you're on fire
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@alex-rourke · 
> Will you help us build the largest source of liquidity for HBD so we can onboard DeFi whales who want 20% stablecoin yield with no hassle?

Yes, I'll do a very tiny part, but every little bit helps, right?
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@behiver · 
As people will become more aware of the pHBD pool and understand its benefits, will progressively be providers. There are some big whales holding liquidity, but not sure why those are not moving or staying still. Maybe they are dormant and not aware of the opportunity.

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@bitcoinflood ·
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It's so wild how hard it is to get your hands on HBD. Over time though that will start getting better. I think part of that issue is the HBD payouts are every 30 days. I feel they should be daily or weekly at least a month to collect interest is pretty wild when you think about it and I wonder why and who came up with that.
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@dwayne16 · 
I agree with you, 30days is damn long and a day payment will be better 

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@boscohage ·
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RE: My Hunt for HBD | Providing HBD Liquidity on pHBD-USDC is The Smartest Thing You Can do to Moon Hive
It's very fortunate that HIVE blockchain has got PolyCUB behind it solidly.
Truly, it would take a bit of time to garner $5 million liquidity in the pool but slowly but surely wins it all.

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@claudio83 ·
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Increasing HBD liquidity will be a slow operation, due to its scarcity. But we need to work to make HBD available especially to large investors outside Hive! We will all benefit from it in the medium and long term

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@cmmemes · 
"but ser" :))))))
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@creativepixie · 
I'm so new to all this... but i really am interested in this great blockchain and all the development and things. I bought a little bit of hive power the other day. Next step is to get some HBD as well. Next pay from work.. lol

very exciting
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@davedickeyyall ·
$6.56
pHBD has to pay more than the 20% the savings account offers. Otherwise nobody would jump thru all those hoops.. I'm a prime example. If I wanted to I could e easily afford to throw $1000 at pHBD.. but there's a lot of wrapping and unwrapping involved to get money in or out or from here to there.. not to mention the countless possibilities of user error and funds lost... that's to complicated. HBD savings is a 3 click operation. Wham. Bam. Thank you ma'am.
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@leo.voter ·
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Right now it's paying 58% APR. It also has the added benefit of being instantly liquid vs HBD savings has a 3 day unlock period
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@dwayne16 · 
Phbd pool is very important in the development of hbd and should the priority of anybody that want hive to excel 

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@emeka4 · (edited)
$7.04
The HBD interest is really beneficial and nobody wants to be left out in missing the benefits attached to it as pHBD-USDC is more profitable when staking with a higher APY. The launching is really quite early but the progress of the pHBD-USDC in liquidity is massive and still counting as it keep progressing.

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@emma001 · 
Good one from polycub working to solve the scarcity issue facing HBD. With demand on the high side, liquidity shouldn't be the problem if we need the whales on our stable coin. Since the internal market can't solve this problem, gathering around by providing Liquidity to the pool will go a long way.

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@galberto ·
$7.45
With this all kind of oportunity in our hive blockchain we need to focus in which proyect we need to enter consider  a Lot of element, we do, i think hive go to the moon because a Lot of people are buying it to buy hbd to put in groups of APR like yours ir simple put in hive wallet.
Thanks for this great development.
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@uyobong.venture ·
$7.11
With the pHBD-USDC pool, buying HBD with Hive is outdated and it's actually a loss. Getting as much quantity from PolyCUB is ideal. 

s many would begin to maximize the arbitrage opportunities with HBD trades, Hive would certainly rise.

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@galberto · 
I do not consider the arbitraje but could be a great oportunity that we need to do.
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@ifarmgirl ·
$7.06
Another opportunity that I wouldn't wanna miss!

> Will you help us?

We love to :) I would definitely jump in to this sooner and not later but still thinking about where I'd take the funds from, hehe.

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@jersteemit ·
$6.47
I trust we see 5m in liquidity for pHBD/usdc soon. Hive whales just need to support this movement by adding to the pool. This is one great opportunity to market the hive ecosystem out there through it's stable coin

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@olympicdragon ·
$7.07
RE: My Hunt for HBD | Providing HBD Liquidity on pHBD-USDC is The Smartest Thing You Can do to Moon Hive
There is a mutual benefit to provide liquidity. This way we all gain from the Leofinance and the hive ecosystem. HBD will be recognize as stable coins bug three, that is LUNA, UST and HBD. Now you can buy 300 HBD at a time. Soon you can easily buy 300,000 HBD immediately !

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@poshtoken · 
https://twitter.com/khalkaz/status/1515497002389417998
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@rtonline ·
$7.03
I believe that we will fill the largest source of liquidity in the near future. We are able to achieve this. In addition, it will be profitable to join early when there is such a high profit. Many people may not have expected it to be launched so early, so i believe we can achieve this in a few days. This will also help the Hive ecosystem grow.

I'm slowly getting into the PHBD-USDC LP pool and will dive deep in a few days.

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@smooth · (edited)
$7.13
If people consistently bid 1% over on the internal market, stabilizer will fill over 160K worth of orders per day. Mostly people don't. I understand the inconvenience (have to buy HIVE, have to manage orders, etc.) but it's a huge opportunity to get HBD consistently in volume, and that's how the HBD supply grows.

Apart from the inconvenience, I think people are spoiled being able to get HBD for under a dollar. That worked for a long time. But now, tt doesn't make sense to be that price sensitive given the APR available. You can make back 1-2% premium from yield in very little time.
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@khaleelkazi · 
That’s great but most DeFi whales will never be able to figure out the internal market.

The bidding system to get HBD is highly inefficient. Deep liquidity pools is how these things spread. 

I’d love to see a lot of HBD being bought 1% premium on the internal market and then deposited into the pHBD pool so DeFi whales can buy in easily and in a way that they understand. No messing with a reverse order book and trying to bid war to get filled on a stable coin 

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@smooth · 
Oh we agree. I'm just suggesting that if you want to get a lot of HBD to fill the pool, this is the way.
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@urun · (edited)
$1.97
1% can be a lot in $ for a transaction. And maybe pay another 1% to get back other stables again.

Not really competitive IMO.

And before you answer me: "Hey you can earn big % on this", it's bad for every other use case like using it as a stablecoin for purchases or transactions.

Most people use stablecoins for trading and not yield farming.
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@smooth · (edited)
$0.19
The overvaluation won't be permanent. It'll persist as long as it takes to create "enough" HBD to satisfy demand and then it will settle back to $1, which is ideal for other use cases. This is a transitional effect. At larger scale where traders will work on smaller margins, we can get by with less overvalation, maybe 1.0001 or such.
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@tokenizedsociety ·
$6.91
Count on me! I'll put all the HBD I can in that pool

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@typebox · 
Enlightening post right there. It’s now crystal clear to me why a lot of whales aren’t focusing attention on the Hbd, Liquidity seems to be the issue!! *ust 24 hours after launching, pHBD-USDC already has $230k in liquidity and it is growing every minute* β€” speaks volume of how much potential the pHBD-USDC exudes.
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@urun · 
print dat $$

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@uyobong.venture ·
$7.11
This pHBD-USDC pool just made me understand how much valueful HBD is. It serves beyond posts Rewards and is a real gem in the wallet of all Content creators.

I'm also very bullish about HBD. Savings may later culminate to ,30% interest in the future and perhaps pHBD would yield 100% by then.

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@rtonline ·
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If we can solve the demand and supply problem radically, this may be what you say. First of all, we need to fill the source of this liquidity.

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@dwayne16 · 
That is the most difficult part and that is what leo is trying to solve 

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