Yes, the culture got tired of people being slaughtered in public places so enacted gun laws that reduced mass shootings to zero. They didn't want to be like the USA. The goal was not to eliminate gun ownership. The goal was to reduce mass shootings. It worked.
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But ... they took 700,000 weapons out of circulation, and 1 million have been registered since. So ... there are more guns than there were before. There's no correlation. What's the correlation? More weapons = no mass murders? That doesn't compute. It's more important that the culture got tired of people being slaughtered in public places. Trucks have been a popular weapon of mass murder lately. Does it really matter how many people own one? Or what kind?
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The statistics make it clear that yes, what can be legally owned makes a difference. The Australians have reduced schoolyard and other mass shootings by reducing the supply of auto and semi auto weapons, while still allowing the other kind, which I don't know what to call them, maybe "slowfire"? Pretty good model for the USA if we can get past all the misinformation the NRA is feeding us, wouldn't you think?
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I'm still willing to respond in good nature, but it looks like we're just talking past each other now. You've presumed a correlation - that the reason there have been no "mass murders" is because of their buyback program. From that presumption, evidence can be found to support it. People like myself don't make that presumption. That's the difference. So until your side is willing to drop its preconceived notions, we're just talking to ourselves. We say maybe it's the family - no fathers anymore. We say maybe it's the violent entertainment culture. We say maybe it's the mental health system. We say maybe it's the very idea that we can rely on govt to protect us. You say no, it's the scary looking guns. None of those issues can be solved, so each side simply uses them to polarize, and we repeat what they say to ourselves and each other. The most frustrating part for me is the insistence that it's something that should be turned over to govt. These horrors are a personal and community issue. They happen and they're terrible. But no amount of government is going to prevent another one. When we depend on govt, we stop paying personal attention, because we FEEL safe. Feeling safe is good, but it's a substitute for being safe. "Banning" any type firearm will not make us safe, but some of us will feel safer, and that's enough to gain their vote.
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