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Vote Bots - how to use and get bit profit!
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**Guys if you use vote bots in a blind mode you probably don't get profit and even lose...**
* Use http://www.steembottracker.com/   for seeing how much bot is loaded,
* Choose 50% loaded 10 min before vote, and preferably with large vote power, reason, after yours bet, can come more... 
* If you press "Details" there is a calculation of your ROI. (After Curation minus) ![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmRQsgygQRG1MbfFtEdLibkaxFpn4oh9xVon4wXZa8CDzD/image.png)
* If you get upvote 3$ on first 30 min your post get in Hot.  If i rigtht in first 15? min no curation share count, all go to the author.  

#### Here is couple examples Good and Bad bets for bot vote roll:

Recommend you minimum bet or a little bit more to the @appreciator in situation laik this: 
![Снимок27.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmcjKzrHjWhVEccX9Hj8pBexpcdU3KrRmxte2HumzspMv4/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BA27.JPG)

It is a bit risky (close to overload) but still ok  
![1.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmPyVdGbvG8acdSgrAXFzJEaGznf9YMFmRHfCBn4sSMfW7/1.JPG)

![12.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmVxRAFwHxWbRZUcCt2fgFRi7o4tSKuL9fMdg2GcPzyiS2/12.JPG)


Small vote bots also maybe profitable, but riskier so bet minimum on them (sometimes rare you may get Jack Pot and be solo on a roll!) : 
![22.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmNeedF6rWDmGFg1WCdyeDaMkfSPzcfK2Nf54rWvLWyMEZ/22.JPG)

 
### Bad vote rolls examples:

madness... calculate how much you lose on this vote run(
![1212.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmcwGgceQLNdEW9Wubqx3zK4UgjcUm1D6ek16WXX9YTaWh/1212.JPG)

![Снимок44.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmTgKL5yiU1vg7GkvBiKkX3KB2bQjFMVTHLVZnH1SdTYRH/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BA44.JPG)

![Снимок.JPG](https://steemitimages.com/DQmSmQaqRxvMxT5vs86GkV12PVLnbvhDvFBtYcJGGojwcvA/%D0%A1%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BA.JPG)


* So **be patient and await good moment** to upvote your post, I get better chances on my experience when they're in Europe night time :)   
 
* My favorite **bold vote bots**: 
@upme - really large 
@booster - on my opinion have top rates 
@appreciator - big 
@jerrybanfield - middle
@buildawhale - big

* Better use **Send Bid** function steembottracker
Him will check your bid on errors (double bet, wrong amount, older  posts etc) It is important no all bots heve refound option implemented.

* be careful not push too much less important topics or someone angry whale may punish you by downvote! 

#### *Correct me if I wrong, I steel newb on Steemit.*




**Thanks for development @yabapmatt this awesome useful soft, vote for them as witness**

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@aksdwi ·
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@cranium ·
Отличная статья, спасибо, что в свое время, Вы помогли мне разобраться в этом.
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@erikaflynn ·
I would add to this post another small explanation about bots, namely, timing and curators. 
When you use strong bots in the first minutes / hours after the publication of your post, you practically deprive your friends and all those who will vote after the bot, the opportunity to receive curation rewards. **The main amount of curation rewards for such a post goes to the bot:(**
Perhaps it makes sense to wait a little and allow your readers to vote first, before the bot...
>Я бы добавила к этому посту еще одно небольшое пояснение насчет ботов, а именно, о тайминге и кураторах. 
Когда вы используете сильных ботов в первые минуты/часы после публикации своего поста, вы практически лишаете своих друзей и всех тех, кто будет голосовать после бота, возможности получить кураторские вознаграждения. **Основная сумма кураторских вознаграждений за такой пост уходит боту.** Возможно есть смысл немного подождать и дать возможность вашим читателям проголосовать первыми, до бота.
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@kobusu · (edited)
As far as I know, it was so at until the last update, the votes that came in the first 30 minutes were 100% going to the author, those who voted first on the 31st minute received the largest share of curatorial.  that This time has changed by 15 minutes if I dont wrong. But in any case, I understand your logic ... Although look after all the more the post has collected the sum of the withdrawal the more curatorial payments?

> Насколько я знаю так было по краиней мере до последнего обновления, голоса которые приходили в первые 30 минут на 100% шли автору, те кто первые голосовали на 31 минуте получали наибольшую долю кураторских. Вроде писали что это время изменилось на 15 минут. Но в любом случае ваша логика понятна... Хотя смотрите ведь чем больше пост собрал сумму апвойта тем больше кураторские выплаты?
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@erikaflynn ·
Я так поняла, вы понимаете русский, поэтому будет без перевода.
Голоса отданные в первые 15 минут - 100% автору
15-30 минут - получают только половину кураторских. Но если в этот момент вас посетит кто-то с большой силой голоса, он сорвет джекпот, оставив с носом всех, кто проголосовал после него.
после 30 минут - кураторские распределяются зависимо от вклада проголосовавших и их очередности.

Там сложная схема распределения по времени и силе проголосовавших. Если действительно интересно, можете почитать подробные объяснения с примерами в этой статье 
https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@crokkon/effective-curation-analysis-of-curation-rewards-in-theory
Человек несколько своих последних статей посвятил ботам, их анализу и улучшению.

Если неохота вникать, можно сразу прочитать Conclusions. Короче, суть в том, что опытный куратор охотнее проголосует, зная что после него придет бот и повысит его кураторские, чем увидев, что он опоздал на пирушку и может не получить даже объедков.
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@insideoutlet ·
I am pretty sure that its a sliding scale, not 100% straight out to the author. that's why you see people jumping in at 21min's and 27min's a lot.
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@ghazanfar.ali ·
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Nice and detailed post about bid based voting bots.
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@hassanbenali ·
good article friend
thank you for sharing
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@jeanlucsr ·
Really good tips @kobusu. Haven't used the bots recently, might try it out again.
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@kobusu ·
Thanks man, wish you success and luck  :)
👍  
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@jeanlucsr ·
Just tried it. Got more worth than expected, let see if the 'hot' theory works :)
👍  
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@jerrybanfield ·
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Thank you kobusu for making a transfer to me for an upvote of 0.99% on this post! 

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@justinomora ·
Take into consideration the following math: Of the Upvote you will only get 75%, but that gets into SBD, diving by 2. Hence if you don't make higher or equal to X/0.375, where X is your bid, then you are loosing. Some Bots are programmed to make you loose. So make your Due Diligence Research.

Thanks @kobusu for this post. We need an alliance to share knowledge on bots, otherwise they will win the war over our own profits
👍  
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@kobusu ·
Yes, well noticed! Thanks for resteem!
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@nang.myint.thwel · (edited)
$0.04
Sure, I sent 0.1SBD to 10 small bots = 1 SBD . 
I calculate my rewards in Details, i.e. 0.1 * 3.7 * 10 = 3.7 SBD, but  actually I didn't get full summation amount.  Got only about 2.7 SBD . 2.7* .75= 2.025 /2 = 1.0125 SBD .  ( I have no idea , why I didn't get full amount as they shown in details) Very little profit in SBD, but I got profit in SP & RP from small bots votes & comments and happy to see full SBD in my post , rather than downhearted points like , 0.02 - 0.05 SBD.
Middle & large bots may be more profitable.
👍  
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@justinomora ·
1/0.375 = 2.667, which is consistent to what you got. Brake even. The real earnings is in Steem Power but 0.375 / steem market value is very low.

To make some earnings you will have to play higher SBD, and choose proper bots.
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@kittybot ·
<p>This post has received a 2.32 % upvote from @kittybot thanks to: @kobusu.</p>
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@lilblack ·
Thank you, nice post!
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@luckyvotes ·
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You got a 13.00% upvote from @luckyvotes courtesy of @kobusu!
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@minnowvotes ·
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You got a 3.14% upvote from @minnowvotes courtesy of @kobusu!
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@ostapko ·
Good information, PAL. Thank you!
👍  
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You got a 0.76% upvote from @postpromoter courtesy of @kobusu!

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@pushup ·
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4.30% @pushup from @kobusu
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@sneaky-ninja ·
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Sneaky Ninja Attack! You have been defended with a 0.90% vote... I was summoned by @kobusu! I have done their bidding and now I will vanish...Whoosh
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