keep it up.good to see on this post.knowledgeable post to all

thank you the science that you have given me tonight tentan bot

Have you factored in Operation Clean Trending? That must be cutting profits quite a bit.

What do you guys think about an alternative - bots that just do straight upvote, without bidding? Like @minnowbooster or @tipu.

Also, thanks for sharing the knowledge, @tipU upvote this post with 0.1 sbd :)

A good list thanks!

The problem with bots is that there is no quality control (on most of them anyway) so anyone can just post rubbish and boost it to 'hot' or 'trending'. It does seem that they are here to stay for now - I use them on my best posts - not shorter posts and competitions etc I see that as bad practise.

I think your right alot of people vvid right at the end and just muck up the profit for everyone else! There are plenty of bots so your best to just bid on the next one

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I just started to take Steemit very serious and I found this article very helpful.
I got some SBD that I earned from some comments. and I want to double my efforts to post some good content related to photography basically. and I am willing to pay some bots to boost it.
Really thank you you just post it in the right time for me.
Keep it up.

This is very informative and will benefit many who bid for vote. Thanks!

I did not know about Roi, thank you! :)

I have noticed a lot of bots now have a capped roi at 10%.

"where maximizing selfishness will lead to compounding benefits. It was either going to be this or 99% of network activity was going to be self-voted. I'm not sure which is better."
This has been so accuracy put into words that I wouldn't have been able to do so if I tried for a whole day. 
I have used bots in the recent pasts. My position on them is that it is what it is and the idea of free choice is bound to effect us in away that we might not like. Doesn't mean that giving up the option of choice is going to do us any favors.
For now I am not using any bots and there is chance that I might never. 
Even then I appreciate the pointers you laid out as they make sense to to the logical part of my brain.

Hello, thanks for sharing this posts, good to see on this post.

Thanks for the heads up dude! Long time no see you by the way, hope things are well for you and your GF. I was one of the  many (or few) who complained against bidding bots but I leveled up my Steemit maturity and finally understood that this is a business so no regrets! Cheers Pal!

thanks  @lexiconical for this information and also for the comment of others..

i found this article - huge information for paid steemit blogging ! The information will be very useful for newbies !!
many many gratefulness for your valuable article @lexiconical

Getting roi from bidbots is the dumbest game on steem right now.
It's a casino where the house always wins.

Most people rarely wins the bids.

thanks; for. sharing this ;posts😔:-$💗

no matter how good or bad bidders are, there will always be the same winners of this game: the bid bots...

i learn something from special person @r2cornell 
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Great article and very informative, thanks for sharing. I've smashed the upvote button for you!

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a very useful post, thanks for the post ..

Good advice. Every bid bot users really need to read this post. As a user myself I made it a habit to check the bottracker websites before using any bots. Unfortunately, not all users seem to do so because I often encounter negative ROI due to over bidding and last second bidders. The worst I've seen is when someone bid 200 SBD on @booster effectively pushing the ROI to -76% and fucking that round along with everyone bidding on it. I think that post only manage to get $96 worth of upvote. The reason? @booster does not have enough voting power to accomodate 200 SBD. I'm not sure what @booster max vote value now but that day its max vote value is less than 100 SBD. The bid was for @clear-water and was sponsored by @fyrkken, not sure if I got the spelling right. This is the result of not checking the bottracker website and blindly bidding. Hopefully @fyrkken can read this article so as not to make the same mistake twice since it won't just affect him but other people as well, mostly us minnows.

P.S. I was not among those who are bidding that day so it doesn't really affect me. I'm just telling what I saw that day.

thanks for sharing this posts i also used this method

I like this post.   3 days into steemit,  I found out about the bid-bot and I did 2 trials and it was positive.

Thanks for the information! Great post. Personally, I prefer bots that straight up upvote as it provides better ROI and is much easier to use. Your post might change my mind though. ~@soccernews

@lexiconical that is some great input on using bidbots. Choosing the right bot and playing at right time is key to get better return....

People who post geniun content doesn’t care about bid-bots but who uses bid-bots for then your post is super helpful. 

I would recommend you please add some nice footer in your post so that reader can easily follow you.

I have designed very nice [footer here](https://steemit.com/steem/@techstack/style-your-steem-with-stylish-footer). Please let me know if anyone interested for it. I can design for you as well in exchange of little SP delegation.

The bot game is sadly one you got to play in order to make any money on this platform and to get your post visible at all. It's a real problem. Unless of course you plonk like hundreds of thousands of dollars into your account and upvote and delegate and so forth.

But still, I wish people read your article. Just look at this masterpiece of complete lack of common sense:

![Screenshot-2018-4-18 Steem Bot Tracker.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZv5tYpCmpwuxixiGcKn2VrRqwK7JF4SyDnM58QnQy2Px/Screenshot-2018-4-18%20Steem%20Bot%20Tracker.png)

It doesn't take a genius to understand how these bid bots work. When it goes over half the vote worth everybody loses, including you! This one for instance is 274 *in total*, and this guy plonks down 372 STEEM. Well enjoy the profits, appreciator, can't say I feel sorry for that budgets guy.

And indeed I can understand your points very well. It can get a bit too spicy in the heat of the moment and people tend to fall over themselves a little in stressful situations like that. But use your head man. If you really must drop that amount of money on bots then put it in a couple of them.

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@lexiconical -  great post here on the use of bid-bots.  They are a fact of life on Steemit it's true.  If you want to move up in followers and hope to reach Dolphin or Whale status, then one must use bid-bots to increase your exposure and hopefully more SP & SBD as well.  Upvoted!

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