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Off Grid Update: Lithium Ion Cells, What They Are and Why We Need Them by lily-da-vine

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Off Grid Update: Lithium Ion Cells, What They Are and Why We Need Them
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So we updated with with a teaser awhile back about our plans to go off the grid and honestly have been too busy figuring it out to post about it.  John has spent the last few weeks listening to youtube videos, looking up batteries and asking around.  He’s been breaking apart broken laptop batteries to salvage the functional cells in an attempt to use them to make battery packs for a power wall. 

As solar power and renewable energy in general becomes more popular, mainstream items such as Tesla’s powerwall come out.  In reality, it’s just a pretty battery pack made from lithium ion cells.  John encouraged me to delve into this stuff to share with all of you and I’m glad he did, I know nothing about this stuff.  

So I started from the basics, what the hell is a lithium ion battery and why are we recycling these things instead of just getting lead acid batteries like many solar systems do.  

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First invented in the 1970s by M Stanley Whittingham while working at Exxon designed the first lithium ion cell. While he picked the wrong lithium he did forge a concept that was later refined to start  engineering the cells we are now familiar with.  These cells are used in everything from laptops to cars, and for good reason too.

I’ll take a quick second to distinguish between a battery and a cell.  A battery is just a bunch of cells packed together in a power pack and the cell is the individual unit containing electrodes, a separator, and an electrolyte. 

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So why lithium ion cells? A few different reasons including: high energy density, tiny memory effect and low self discharge.  This is just a fancy way of saying they hold a lot of energy for their size without loosing capacity over time after a lot of charges.  They’re also lightweight compared to lead acid batteries of the same capacity, which makes them even better.

When I looked into the different types of lithium ion cells I’ve found there are a lot, in all sizes, but the most commonly used for these sorts of things is the 18650.  It took a bit of digging to find out why it’s called that, it’s just shorthand to refer to it’s dimensions 18mm x 65.0mm.  These are super common and will only become more so as Tesla is building giga factories to manufacture them. 

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There’s been a lot of controversy in the rise of popularity of electric vehicles in regards to the supply of lithium.  A lot of people have said that there’s a limited supply within the earth’s crust but our research has shown us the world is filled with lithium and much of the lithium supply isn’t actually mined from the crust like many mainstream news sources would have you believe, it comes from sea water.  It seems the lithium shortage is a myth!

There are certain dangers that exist with these batteries but to be perfectly honest there are certain dangers that exist with any battery.  When we were off the grid in Cleveland using lead acid batteries, John had the misfortune of one exploding near him, splattering him and the whole area with battery acid.  It was a pain in the ass to get rid of to say the least.  

These little cells do have the possibility of fire or explosion but their small size makes them much less of an issue than say a lead acid which honestly makes them safer for the home tinkerer. As with anything electrical there are risks involved that we’ve got to pay attention to but it’s all pretty simple straightforeward common sensical stuff. 



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@aedroberts ·
@lily-da-vine So now I have more homework because of you. It will be well worth it though. Being off of the grid virtually dictates solar. Wind is very limited as too many towers destroy predatory birds. Are you able to grow hemp where you are? Be well.
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@apsistrading ·
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This is awesome. I saw a project like this recently in the news down here in Australia:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-01/aussie-blokes-diy-tesla-powerwall-made-from-scrap/8863406
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@lensessions ·
Now that's an inspiring story!  And like a typically unassuming Australian he only did it 'cause he "was bored".
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@billykeed ·
Cool vibes.
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@dbarzo ·
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Oh that is awesome! There is a lot of information available about the lithium cells, and the greenies that think there electric cars are so great and green haven't done any research on how those batteries are actually made. The idea of off the grid is absolutely great though, most people don't realize that the power industry is the most powerful and profitable industry in the world today, and is also why the big cities in places like the US won't let you unplug from the grid. Good luck with your system building! You guys are up high and close to the coast, wind generation might also be a good source of energy production, cheep to build too.
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@lily-da-vine ·
Solar is just so much cheaper and we're more familiar with it.  That's something we'd consider more on a property we own, this one we just rent...for now :)
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@mackjez-santos · (edited)
Just make sure that when the day comes for your future solar panel installation that you install the panels and especially the converter as far away, so you will not be affected by its electrosmog. Meaning, these things produces big magnetic fields/frequencies that is dangerous for any life including the human body. That's something maintreem won't tell
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@enjoywithtroy ·
i did not know that ithium ion  had been around that long.   Interesting read and learning.   I had done some prepping the last 4 years too but am not off grid. I know there are preppers here on steemit.   Thanks for sharing,
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@mackjez-santos ·
Wasn't it also one of the reasons the US, went into afghanistan?. I think they had a estimated 1 billion worth of lithium in that country. don't get me wrong Denmark is also contribution "democracy bombings"
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@dbarzo ·
Yeap, I believe you're correct, lithium, neodymium, iron, gold, silver, and of course poppies
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@patasieduagh ·
Nice post
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@therneau ·
Cool :):) I'm looking forward to your future off the grid experiment info :) Perhaps I could learn a few things to implement at home :D
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