For me, I think art is a way to translate the world around me from the mundane to the extraordinary. Maybe this aligns with your second point and I just see it through a different lens and, while I thought it might be worth mentioning, I think it speaks to a larger focus your writing addresses well here which is that it doesn't matter if you identify with these categories, or even identify with a category. 

Art is your own, it lives inside of you, no one can take your reason or lack thereof away from you, and all reasons or non reasons are valid for pursuing expression.

My hope is that art continues to act as a medium through which we can grow more empathetic and mindful as a species - hopefully move us towards personal and individual growth just as much as the collective.

Great writeup here, @lilyraabe, always happy to see your works across my timeline and even happier to see you as part of the @thealliance family.

All the best!

Nowadays gallerists define art, which I find wrong. Because with help of big guys like Gagosian it turns just into another machine of capitalism. I am strongly for an artist to decide what is art.

Wow! Fantastic post. I had to stop reading several times to think. I truly enjoy the Tolstoy quote. He struggled with the same 3 questions you have throughout his life and I think his answers changed as he grew. I know my answers now would differ considerably to when I was an adolescent and young adult. 

What do you think art is? I think my answer is a bit simplistic, but I think it is a manifestation of our view on the world, at least what we see of it, expressed in a way that isn't traditional such as typical speech or writing. It then gives us a chance to stretch the boundaries of how we feel/understand things outside of language. It also allows our dreams to take form, which can be extremely difficult to do with the limitations of language.

What role do you see art playing in our world? Tough question. I think my answer to the first covers this partially, but there are certainly some limitations on how art can play a role today. Not impossible, but certainly limited.

What do you think makes a piece of art GREAT? Greatness, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. I personally define "greatness" as providing value to the individual and to those affected by their actions. I think art works in this same way. Unfortunately, "value" is nearly as ambiguous as "great" or even "art".

Thanks again for the post and for making my brain work a little harder today. Looking forward to more posts from you.

I'm not sure I agree with how you broke down art. There are many motivations for art, to which you mentioned a few, but those are not what makes art into art.

**Art is the manifestation of our brain's capabilities when applied to a medium.**

For example, painting is the use of pattern recognition on various objects to simplify them and recreate them through the mixing of pigments on a canvas. Drawing is the same, only using the medium of graphite, or charcoal, or pen, etc. Sculpting is likewise trying to simplify the patterns of the world.

The problem is when what we are using our brain to recreate is not something easily grasped. For example, what if you tried to paint loneliness? What if you tried to create the melancholy felt by the entire human population of the world as it faces it's possible impending doom due to its own actions? What if you just let your mind run wild and paint whatever it wanted to? 

Similar processes to these lead to very abstract art that perhaps cannot be easily understood. Especially when it's using a medium that perhaps is not very well recognized, and departs a bit too far from the norm for most people's comfort.

It's still art though. I think, perhaps, a lot more is art than we are willing to accept. If someone makes a movie for example, it might not always be high art, but it is often art, even when we don't want to accept it. It's the director's vision applied to the world.

I don't think the motivation matters. Someone can create a beautiful piece of art for art's sake, or for a commission. In 1000 years, will we even know? Or will it be just another piece of art in a museam that people wonder the story behind?

Hi @lilyraabe, 

Firstly; what an excellent post! 

Secondly, to my thoughts in response to yours.  :)

Art is a symptom of society; a language hidden within language: be it visual representation, or an installation, an experience; or something that is created. 

Art is about what it means to function, and dysfunction. It defies classification, and can sometimes be serious, and sometimes be fun.  

When I was studying my Masters, one of the guys in my group staged a fictional exhibition which was brilliant.  He appropriated the State Gallery, with a headline show, documented simply on business cards.

Definitely art for arts sake, but also an excellent and thought provoking troll. 

Art informs us; it's a broader; looser view of the world, and most importantly: it is the avant garde; literally. 

It is prophetic and essential.  

I look forward to reading more of your content.  

:)

This is SUCH a great post - so thought-provoking and considered. I loved your '4 reasons' and it's really interesting to me that my own artistic activities encompass each of them pretty much equally!

**What do you think art is?**

I experience human art as the co-creative process of a discrete, individual expression of Life, working together with All That Is - channelling, through their own particular filter, the Life that informs them. One might say that art is the visceral, embodied expression of Life exploring Itself, in the case of humanity by way of exploring and attempting to express and address the experience of being human. It's also my considered opinion that Nature is The Greatest Artist in the existence, matter creating new ideas, new patterns, new individuals, inspired and compelled by the great, unknowable, unfathomable Mystery. 

**What role do you see art playing in our world?**

I'd like to think that art can help to save us as a species from ourselves - art, combined with love (and especially a love of nature). It is one of the great antidotes to the sickness under which the masses currently labour. Ultimately, in a world which did not labour under the restrictions placed upon it by the 'ruling elite', all of us would be absolutely free to express ourselves creatively, without fear of repercussion. I feel that art pushes us individually and collectively, towards this realisation. The realisation of our own enslavement and the way to free ourselves from it. All art carries this message, if we listen carefully enough. Being creative is a subversive act. It bucks against everything the control system would force upon the individual. When expressed without restraint, art sets the imagination, the heart, the soul of the participant free, even if it's only for the duration of the artistic endeavour. 

**What do you think makes a piece of art GREAT?**

For me, GREAT art is the art of BEING ONESELF, the individual that one truly is, beyond and before the indoctrination we are subjected to by culture. the truly great artists for me are those who give society and its mores the middle finger, and sing their own unique song with all of their heart. Being brave enough to do that is actually an Art all of its own. Great art casts aside that which is divisive in favour of that which unites. Great art has an unmistakably life-serving resonance. Great art reaches into the heart and says, "THIS, you will hear, and feel, and see!", does it not?

With love,

Jay xxx

Another stellar, thought-provoking post. I've definitely struggled with certain types of art - mainly, non-form art like abstract and color studies. It's almost as if I had an art prejudice as if I had to understand it or it wasn't art... I've learned since then! Now, I take time to appreciate non-form art through the perspective of what it compels me to think, feel, and experience in the moment. 

To answer your questions: 

1. My 'definition' of art has changed as I've matured. At first, art was talent. Then, art was production. Now, art is expression. Truly, anything can be art in my eyes, and if I see it as art, so it is. If another person *does not* see what I do as art, that is their perspective and it is theirs to own! Maybe this vagueness dilutes the meaning of art or the achievement of acclaimed artists, but since my opinion is so personal and fairly irrelevant to the industry as a whole, I should think it's okay. 😁

2. **Art is the universal language.** While we don't always understand each other's intentions, dreams, emotions, and expectations, the clearest way I see those ambiguities can be communicated is through art. 

3. This is a tough question - as I see greatness in technique, in uniqueness/creativity (pushing boundaries or going somewhere few have before), and in affect (or effect?). How does the art affect me or you or an entire group of people? Many do not see Banksy's work as art because is it graffiti, a defamation of public property that Banksy has no right to defame. Yet, their artwork impacted a vast group of people with its critical themes, its brash display, and its sense of mystery. In my eyes, all of those and so much more equate to talent.  

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I suppose I Art for all those 4 reasons switching and mixing every now and then hehe

The last one is the one that seems to define in my case my activity as designer and illustrator...while I do enjoy doing that most of the time it's always tied to the requirements of someone else, the client....so doesn't give the freedom I want when I create something for pure need to create something....which often is therapeutic to curb anxiety or derpression....

Hmmm well now that I think it, I rarely venture in the Artivism with a clear goal...except for expressing my own freedom and individuality...it is a message to the society but not for society.

About your question...hmmm
1.- I see art as a skill we have developed, it can manifest in many forms...you can trade it or use it to express something or nothing...

2.- Is what makes culture

3.- It has to transmit something, be it causing amazement for a high quality, a clever way to tell a story or message which gets bonus points if it that story or message actually makes you feel something deeper, I have to connect with it at some level...

If an Artwork has all of these elements, then I would declare it a Master piece.

Sorry for being so disorganized with my thoughts, I have to work more on that.

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Brilliant piece, but I gotta say, I disagree with Tolstoy. I'm more with the metaphysicians.

Interesting and thought-provoking. I love art, the concept and I also love many works of art themselves. However, I've grown to loathe _art_ in the modern sense of it. I feel a lot of it is put a  top a pedestal, merely _because_ it is art. Whereas other works of art, by unknown or unrecognized people, is dismissed as 'nice craftsmanship'. 
Sadly there is a lot of pretentionists in the current art world.

Theoretically I adhere to the 'art can be anything' doctrine but in practice I notice that I lean much more towards seperating what I consider to be actual art from the 'pretentious' kind.

I think art is the manifestation of unique creative expression in some form.  It could be something as simple as the particular way someone talks with their particular lilt and enunciation and language that communicates in such a way as to open another to unforeseen possibilities.  Building something or doing math can be art I think.  The definition does not lie in a particular medium but rather in the singular expression of the creator.  It feels Real.  It is interesting and beautiful or at least sublime.  It is what I think Plato was attempting to articulate when he mused on the Real and Forms and the Shadowland.  In my language Plato was trying to express his Groove.  I think what we are calling Art requires a way to communicate that Groove at some meaningful level to be art.  The impulse to create and express I think is basic life force stuff.  The ability to express and communicate ones particular groove to the point that it can be engaged by others and impacted is what for me is art.  So perhaps the "art" part exists in the communication, the creative expression of one consciousness with another.  This would be true even if something I've done from the depths of me communicates who I am to my ego. Peace friend.

Thank you @lilyraabe. I don't think Iam really an artist in the traditional sense but I am creative on different levels so I appreciate artists and what they create.

 Appreciate you bringing this to light

Great read and thanks for sharing.  I believe art is 100% subjective.  As such I stopped caring if anybody else liked the art I like, and I stopped caring about the tastes of others.  For me, my appreciation for an artist begins when I know they are doing something I can't (which doesn't take much to be honest.)  But sometimes I see the equivalent of a stick figure and am expected to think it's cool.  For me, if the artist has to explain what their art is, and I simply ain't feelin it, then I just keep it moving and go looking for the piece that does.  Regardless of my opinion though, I generally love it all.  

One of the highlights of my life thus far was getting to see Van Gogh originals in Amsterdam.  Stunning.

Dali is my second favorite.  I met a woman once who claimed to be one of his sketch models back in the day.  His style is so wild.

A LOT of interpretation of art (and talent) seems to be tied with the story of the artist's life or personality.  I thought Jackson Pollock was a way better artist before his signature style came to be, and Andy Warhol was essentially a screen printer making t-shirts on canvas (my opinion) whose personality allowed his art to become known.  

But I also like Bob Ross so there you go....

The arguments can go on for days and days.  Thanks for getting my mind going.  Upvoted and following ya now.  Aloha!

We've been talking about this subject on Facebook all day so I thought it would be good to repost it on our thread. 

Art is the belief in what it is.

Behold!
LeeJ 

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