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FirstCoin: A Ponzi scheme cryptocurrency from a technical point of view by lisperati

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· @lisperati ·
FirstCoin: A Ponzi scheme cryptocurrency from a technical point of view
What is Firstcoin?
==================

There are no technical white papers explaining the technical decisions
nor any form of [community developing this cryptocurrency](https://github.com/firstcoinofficial/firstcoin) except:

-   1 minute block targets
-   subsidy halves in 2.5M blocks (\~5 years)
-   110 million total coins
-   6 confirmations
-   1 Satoshi per block

Most important (and missing in this description): 109,999,999  coins are already mined.

Bad design or Fraud by design?
==============================

[FirstCoin](http://firstcoinproject.com/) has a supply of 110,000,000 coins. I suspected the mining algorithm is similar to Bitcoin, where the number of coins generated per block is set to decrease with a [50% reduction every 210,000 blocks](https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply) (Starting with 50 Bitcoin for the Genesis block). 
Bitcoin has chosen this decreasing-supply algorithm because it approximates the rate at which commodities like gold are mined.

But things are different in the world of Firstcoin: The reward is **fixed** to 1 Satoshi (0.00000001 [FirstCoin](http://firstcoinproject.com/)) for every single block to be mined!

If you wonder how the supply of 110M coins can be reached: There is a special case for block 2 coded in the [GetBlockValue](https://github.com/firstconn/firstcoin/blob/9d5f136ccf7e4f7a4c4d62f7af6873d067bd4e88/src/main.cpp#L1092) function:

``` {.c}
int64 static GetBlockValue(int nHeight, int64 nFees)
{
    int64 nSubsidy = 1;

    if(nHeight == 2)
    {
        nSubsidy = 109999999 * COIN;
    }

    if (nHeight > COIN + 1)
    {
        nSubsidy = 0;
    }

    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}
```

So there is only **1** Coin left to mine and the inventor of Firstcoin [sent the 109,999,999 to
himself.](http://explorer.firstcoinproject.com/block/34853dd4108804f3df772ce24fd99ea974af09847708384adfbcbe30e56728c4)

This is obviously not the way a healthy cryptocurrency should be designed. There is no incentive to mine because there is actually **no reward**. This is also reflected in the current mining difficulty: [0.0042](http://explorer.firstcoinproject.com/).

There is no mining software available for download (nobody would use it anyway) and I suspect only the inventor keeps mining blocks to keep the network alive.

So taking over the mining (to prevent transactions to happen or reverting history) should be easy.

FirstCoin.Club: Ponzi at work
=============================

Funnily you can invest in Cloud-Mining and other fake packages to get monthly rewards (between 3% and 7.5% of the invested coins) in the so-called [FirstCoin.Club](https://firstcoin.club/).

The reason Firstcoin increases in value is the fact, that still people get fooled by the Firstcoin marketing to buy Firstcoins at the [LiveCoin exchange](https://www.livecoin.net/) to "invest" in [FirstCoin.Club](https://firstcoin.club/).

Most likely the promoter/inventor of Firstcoin will vanish once investment slows down and the scheme collapses. He will have made enough profits selling some of his remaining 109,900,000 Firstcoins!
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@indigoeleven ·
Very informative write up. Was about to invest in FRST but seemed sceptical due to the fact I couldn't find the whitepaper or an adequate explenation of services. Not even google fetches anything useful!
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@qualityservices ·
Yes you are right. If you will find on internet for firstcoin then you will not find any good comments , information and content about firstcoin. You will listen good words from the people who have firstcoins and selling. Well I also bought few coins but I am still confused on my investment. :)
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@rodogonzalez ·
It is valid to be sceptical on this coin, the fact is that it is there are not any analysis about what are the Proof of Staking rewards programs, there are several coins with that rewards as NavCoin, Cloakcoin, Peercoin, Mintcoin and others, this post is very old and I do not agree it be a ponzi or scam, also in this momment i had not heard about somebody who did not the promised reward, neither about lost their money in this project, it looks very serius if you check that it started in Dubai and there is heavy consecuences for any scam, i guess that it is better to research more
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@rodogonzalez ·
here is the whitepaper that you need:

https://github.com/firstconn/firstcoin 

Can join us here: 

https://firstcoin.club/AFFILIATE/200622
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@lisperati ·
This is not a whitepaper!

This is the source of a bitcoin fork they copied from somewhere (undocumented) and changed it to turn it into a pre-mined-ponzi-coin. I suspect you didn't read my post.

Don't share links to this scam. Bitconnect has already ruined enough people!
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