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RE: A Good Time to Die by lycango

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· @lycango ·
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Honestly, I disagree with much of what you said, mostly because I believe a lot in context. You gave an example about people on hive, and that I can agree with. But the other things you mentioned, I could agree with or disagree with depending on several factors not directly mentioned.

For example, on the subject of expecting media to expect social causes, obviously not every single thing can be represented as you mentioned

But if writers were left to their artistic expression, without the pressures and opinions of those around them, very little would be represented. 

In that instance, if representation brings about societal good, should it be sacrificed on the alter artistic expression? My answer isn't yes or no, it will always be "it depends". What is the cause? What degree of effect does the pressure bring? 

Ultimately,I couldn't agree with much of the post for that reason, though I do think the supposed reporte was impatient, but it's her money so whatever.

And ironically, I preferred the movies where Bond where Bond killed and womanised without regret, but hey isn't the whole point of a community the exchange of ideas? What point would there be to be on Hive everyone had the same opinion. 

I won't be watching the Bond movie anytime soon, but I will be waiting on your next post.
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@tarazkp ·
>Honestly, I disagree with much of what you said, mostly because I believe a lot in context.

I mention context as a temper, yet you disagree? :D

>But if writers were left to their artistic expression, without the pressures and opinions of those around them, very little would be represented.

This post has nothing to do with critique - it is about critiquing everything through a lens of today, generally whichever lens sill see it in the worst possible light in order to generate "drama points" on social media. 

What is a societal good? How is it measured?
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@lycango ·
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_I mention context as a temper, yet you disagree? :D_

You mentioned the past societal context, I'm referring to the specific context of the act. Let me illustrate with an extreme example, because anything else would be so complicated I'd just say it honestly depends for me.

It's commonly stated on the internet that the allies justified the trial and execution of high ranking officials in Nazi Germany by arguing that some acts are just inherently wrong, such that any man would be aware of this fact, regardless of social context. Obviously, these men were convicted of crimes such as genocide, which is an extreme example, but the point is even though it was seemingly acceptable in the society (which is not to say everyone was okay with it), it was still wrong. So when I say I disagree I mean because I don't have the specific example, I can't say i agree, whereas I've agreed with many of your past posts.

_This post has nothing to do with critique - it is about critiquing everything through a lens of today, generally whichever lens sill see it in the worst possible light in order to generate "drama points" on social media._

And I am also saying critiquing things from today's lens may or may not be all right, imo, it depends, because some seemingly new lens have always existed. Obviously, there's a great deal of subjectivity involved. 

_What is a societal good? How is it measured?_

To me, it's something that betters the life of at least part of the population without trampling on the rights of orders. This is still a subjective definition tbh, because at one point a man had a right to kill another man if he was sufficiently dishonoured

The measurement, well, that's much harder. In fact, with small acts like representation in film, it's almost impossible to mention. The bigger picture ultimately is whether representation leads to acceptance, less bigotry (represented by lower rates of hate crimes for instances). To make it clear, I'm not necessarily talking about a James Bond movie rn.

I'm sorry for the wall of text. Honestly, I don't know how to make it shorter.
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@tarazkp ·
>So when I say I disagree I mean because I don't have the specific example, I can't say i agree, whereas I've agreed with many of your past posts.

But, wouldn't this leave you in the middle, *non-committal?* Taking a position of disagreement is taking a position without context, isn't it?

>To me, it's something that betters the life of at least part of the population without trampling on the rights of orders. 

This is an issue, because people claim "their rights" on anything these days. Anything that makes them feel bad, means their rights have been trampled. Do you see what the post is about now? *Everyone can make themselves a victim.*
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