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· @melbourneswest ·
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International relations crumble as AUKUS Defence pact makes news
![images.jpeg150.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fJNa0X2.jpg)
[Source](https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/16/australia-nuclear-submarine-deal-contract-france-scrapped-defence-pact-us-uk)
It's been a few days since the launch of AUKUS a defence pact between Australia, United Kingdom and the United States which delt a blow to the French as it caused the cancellation of a trade deal between Australia and France to procure diesel powered Submarines. 

The new defence pact will see Australia build US Nuclear Submarines which will play a large role in maintaining control of southern waters. 

This is no small deal as the United States has only ever shared its Nuclear technology with one other country the UK and that was in 1958. 

![000_9MX4YR.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Y8vnAbP.jpg)
[Source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/9/18/france-accuses-australia-us-of-lying-over-submarine-deal)
The French president Emmanuel Macron publicly stated his anger at the move by saying that allies don't treat each other in this way. 

The cancellation of the contract comes at a time where the world is impacted financially by the pandemic and will see the French lose a portion of income from this trade deal. 

![4466.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zyBSvX6.jpg)
[Source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/13/g7-leaders-seek-right-balance-dealing-with-china-dilemma-trade-human-rights-climate-crisis)
But it comes at no surprise that such a large military stance has taken place with the development of AUKUS given that it was the Europeans who wanted a stern message sent to China over its expansion through economic and military power but it was the US that calmed tensions at the previous G7 summit held this year [Source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/13/g7-leaders-seek-right-balance-dealing-with-china-dilemma-trade-human-rights-climate-crisis)

I'd anticipate that France's move to remove their foreign diplomat from Australian shores is more a political move to instill confidence in their nation that their leader is a hard, strong leader. 

But the move can also be perceived as fracturing allies and may give China the thought that it is in a stronger position. But the European Union is not to be dismissed as it has grown weary of China's political and military movements. 
## **China hits back**
![Screenshot_20210920100505_Samsung Internet.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2zoNYdO.jpg)
[Source](https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1438459566862176256?s=20)
China has slammed the move as irresponsible and dangerous and perceived as a move to counter China's position in the South China Sea. Given China's current push to reclaim Islands in the South China Sea and it's ongoing conflict with Taiwan which succeeded from China however, China still perceives Taiwan as part of its territory and the ongoing issues in Hong Kong it was only a matter of time before a response from the broader international community. 

China's foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian further stated that Australia is replaying a *Cold War* mentality and warned that AUKUS was damaging its own interests [Source](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/defence-and-foreign-affairs/china-slams-australias-security-pact-with-the-us-and-the-uk-declares-canberra-is-to-blame-for-strained-beijing-relationship/news-story/467f211454e537cf9eb7cc29d9ae9090%3famp). 

The warning does come as a concern to Australia as Australia's top trading partner is Chine who procures 60% of its iron ore from Australia. But China this year undertook several sanctions against Australia due to ongoing disputes. From increasing tariffs on wine and other exports it has also attempted to seek to increase its Iron ore supply from Brazil in India. 

## **Why Nuclear Submarines for Australia?**
![usnavy.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RCS83sd.jpg)
[Source](https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/us-aircraft-carriers-successful-trial-test-may-blunt-chinas-killer-missile-threat-report/articleshow/85296903.cms)
The move is a strategic one by the US as China focused much of the past two decades trying to develop military power to counter the famous US Air Carriers. 

Through China military research they identified weaknesses that lay beneath the sea by detonating nukes. This puts US forces at risk despite the US now further strengthening its Carriers to which it declares they can take a hit by a Nuke and continue [Source ](https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/us-aircraft-carriers-successful-trial-test-may-blunt-chinas-killer-missile-threat-report/articleshow/85296903.cms)

However, this exposes a plan in China's military strategy which, if a war was to break out it will be seeking to take out air craft carriers from beneath the sea. 

By providing Australian forces access to the most sophisticated and adcances military technology the US strengthens its position to be able to maintain control in battle from all angles and closing its weakness in the process. 

## **Will there be war?**

We certainly hope there won't be as war is a costly exercise that harms innocent people more than its purpose. 

But the world is watching China's actions and how it handles Hong Kong and Taiwan. I'd anticipate that if this war was to kick off, Taiwan would be the trigger in it all. 

What are your thoughts will this be a Nuclear war that will damage our world or will crisis be averted? 








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@cmplxty ·
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It’s crazy how some rich old guys flexing their military still happens. I don’t know much beyond symbolically what this will do. The rich people will always fund both sides of it so it’s up to us people of the world to keep this type of stuff in check. Remove consent for these actions and it will stymie it for a while I think. 
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@jfang003 ·
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I don't think France will do anything besides complain. After all the US is one of its biggest ally and economic partner. Well if things do happen then I think things have gone off the deep end and I don't know what will happen anymore.

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@marcusantoniu26 ·
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I think this is more about containment and shifting alliances. China will take Taiwan, but the US does not want further expansion. It depends on France if they decide to stay in NATO or not
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@phusionphil ·
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France is not happy with their leadership. They have issues internally contributing to this lack of trust in Australia imo.

As a Canadian, I will be there beside you Australians and I hope to see our American allies also point their guns in the same direction.

I know for a fact there will be Koreans, Japanese, Philippines, Thailanders, and Indians happy to see us show up with force to put China in its place.

Every now and then, someone like Hitler may come along and take things too far, once the geopolitics reach stages like this, it's time to draw the line.

China needs to park their nuclear Subs or face serious ramifications for intimidating the Jaoanese and Phillipines Fishing communities.

I have family on a small west coast island of Canada, they will be next if we don't stand up for the Japanese victims of Chinese militarized oppression.

Either China stops or meets the same show of force Hitler did with 60 years of leading the world's military industrial complex. The amount of artillery we have, will make a mockery of the Beijing offensive if they ever choose to take the first shot.
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@cmplxty ·
I don't think we will ever again fight a war like WW2, personally. They don’t have the military personnel to do that nor do countries have the taste for outright war like that where millions die. Vietnam is still in the memories of a lot of people that will say hell no! 
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@phusionphil ·
Yeah soldiers will be in internet cafes now drinking mocha 
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@melbourneswest ·
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My thoughts is that if this kicks off, it will kick off in Taiwan. 

Japan and many other nations boarding China have been growing anxious over Beijing's growth and actions. It will be an interesting how this plays out. 
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@phusionphil ·
The worst case scenario is if USA and China exhaust their armies in Taiwan.

If that happens, Russia and India would be the world's military powers.
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@preparedwombat ·
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In all of the coverage I’ve seen, not even a hint of when these subs might actually be operational. AFAIK, there’s not even a *design* for this new class of subs yet. The Australian-French project had been underway for a decade but not even one sub was actually constructed.
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@melbourneswest ·
Not for another decade atleast. The first 18 months is just establishing the task force that will lead it.

But it is a strategic step in the right direction. Australia has 3 Oceans and will play a leading role in future peace keeping in these Oceans. 

These are very important steps. 

https://www.pm.gov.au/media/australia-pursue-nuclear-powered-submarines-through-new-trilateral-enhanced-security
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