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· @memehub · (edited)
Sometimes you have to pivot
Edit: I am making one meme bot for bernie, one to curate while I power down, then I am out. Those in my community that stuck with memehub since the steem days have my contact info.
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@acidyo ·
welcome back
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@azircon ·
Alright: Enough drama on this already. Also there is nothing wrong with this post.

1. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Proposal #100. It is a proposal, not a bill.

2. Proposal #100 did raise a few questions, as far as I am concerned, they are mostly answered now in comments. I personally do not have any further questions on Proposal #100. However, it is probably good practice for the proposal writer to condense the summary of those key answers as an addendum or edit to the proposal, with a possible edit to the day rate (as widely suggested and I think agreed upon already). A simple table will do wonders!

3. Again its a proposal, community can choose to fund or not fund it. It is currently not even active right now.

4. As I mentioned, at my post earlier, that it does not required community backing;it can be passed by vote from about 10 stakeholder in its present form. However, it is not a fault of the proposal writer. It is the current status of the stake distribution and our DPOS system that everything is based on.

There is absolutely no need to fight over it. 

And to add for the record. I do have some stake, #29 to be exact, last I checked. I like to double my stake, if there is less drama on this chain.
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@memehub ·
the prob is she is supposed to rep the community. If there is backlash on it then why doesnt she not re-adjust it? that simple and easy and then it would have more support instead of division.
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@azircon ·
I think several adjustments were proposed and some even agreed upon in the comments. All it need perhaps is a summary edit and add a table with hourly rates proposed to the original proposal. I think its cool.
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@borislavzlatanov ·
What is the issue with asking to be paid for work already completed?

What change do you want @justineh to make to her proposal?
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@memehub ·
then you always have to worry if she ever does anything for the community again, is it goina come with a back pay proposal? and opens that door for others via her setting the precedent.
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@borislavzlatanov ·
I see, so it wasn't clear upfront whether it was a voluntary or a paid contribution? And it becomes unclear in the future whether something done is voluntary or there will later be an ask for compensation?
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@xxxxxxxxxx ·
What kind of fucking retard would rather pay someone up front than after they've clearly done the work?

You really are making yourself look like a moron.
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@memehub · (edited)
I would like to see her rewrite it such that it does not divide the community. She can discuss the concerns and negotiate with the reputable dissenters in the community. There is no real reason to not go for the win/win instead of "people can chose to support it or not" and dividing the community
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@borislavzlatanov ·
What is the win/win? Still not clear on that.
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@justineh ·
How is saying that people can look at the work and decide what value they think it adds or doesn’t, and vote with their stake dividing a community?

I’m so confused by this. 

So now you’re telling me if I don’t do what you want, then you are going to make a spam bot farm? So you are now trying to threaten me? Are you feeling ok?
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@xxxxxxxxxx ·
She could, but, your opinion DOES NOT MATTER.  Use your votes LIKE EVERYONE ELSE and shut the fuck up already.
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@cmmemes ·
I was concerned of running out of meme material but this gives me hope :)))
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@memehub ·
There is no war yet, I am hoping to inspire people to act right to dodge one.
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@cmmemes ·
I don't want a war at all but the drama is very meme-able :P
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@xxxxxxxxxx ·
The will be NO WAR because you're a pussy and do nothing but run your bitch mouth.
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@hivebuzz ·
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@joshman ·
I appreciate this gesture of support, but let's take a step back.  Just keep doing what you're doing creating value.  This will take care of itself in time.
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@memehub · (edited)
I am not gun-ho preparing for war. Just pointing out how this can go south quick and clearly stating my desire for proper resolution as compared to "people can chose to support it or not" from someone who is meant to rep the community.
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@joshman ·
Thanks for the clarification. I think awareness is being raised and in time this will be less of an issue.
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@xxxxxxxxxx ·
Get back on Josh's dick like he told you, bitch!
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@justineh ·
I didn’t realize I was in a war with @joshman? Can someone explain this war to me? As if I’m in a war.. I should probably know about it. Sorry if I missed something.. i have been trying to get HIVE listed on more exchanges while people post memes apparently and fight about them. 

Can I get a TDLR?
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@borislavzlatanov ·
Hey Justine, would you consider [this suggestion](https://peakd.com/hive/@borislavzlatanov/re-justineh-q9rud3)? I think it will help alleviate a lot of the projections and negativity coming at you.

Thanks for all your work!
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@justineh ·
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Yes, I am working on that. It’s just due to the nature of the work and the multiple NDAs, I’m very limited to what I can put in a public forum. I’m working on a way around that. I will say that 100+ are privy to the work being done and the details, so it’s not like it’s not being “overseen”. These are the elected community witnesses, so they aren’t just nobody’s either. 

I understand the community as a whole would like more transparency and I’m trying to find a way to do that that does not negatively affect the community’s relationship with exchanges. I go over this a bit in my last post. 
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@joshman ·
I wouldn't characterize a difference of opinion as a war.  I think there is some other stuff going on in the periphery that is being conflated here.
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@justineh ·
> As the tensions rise in the community over @justineh's proposal. I am openly declaring my opposition to the justineh club and support @joshman, et al.

That first paragraph seems to point to him taking your side in our war. I’m saying I didn’t know we had one. 

I understand some don’t support the proposal and that’s very fair. It does seem those who are being the loudest about it, don’t seem to even have the slightest concept of what is happening ... just like this post stating devs should make more (they are) and the other comments from this account stating that he isn’t looking at the total amount, just the daily.. so by that standard I am making way mire than devs.. which is the most illogical thing I’ve actually ever heard. 

And now I’m being threatened that if I don’t do what he says (even though that’s not even clear what he wants except for me to change my proposal to some vague thing that apparently will fix it all) then he will wreck havoc on the community.. so.. ummm.. what?

Perhaps since this individual has declared you is choice in this “war” you could educate him slightly or perhaps give him some guidance. 

I literally have no idea what is going on here, but I am for sure not at war with you or anyone.. and am not “destroying the community” either.. seems the one threatening to run havoc is doing that. 

My DMs are always open, no clue how to help here.. but my DMs are always open.
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@memehub ·
there is no war.. read my words, I specifically stated "I WANT to see this resolved civically but if it turns into a war on Hive"
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@memehub ·
reread my words please. I stated "if it turns into a war on Hive". Joshman is a dissenter of the proposal and receiving backlash from people that hardcore support you.

You should take the time to actually read the post when you can and consider what I have already proposed many times which is to write the proposal for the win/win/win so that this can be brought to quick closure. There are people that would like to support you but not with how you are conducting this.
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@justineh ·
And what is this win win? As I have quite a lot of support from many different community members on the current set up. 

Then I have a few who think I should receive no payment and just do this work to help the community (while they shit post and get rewards)

Then I have a few who think I should do a longer term just to make it “look” better without actually changing anything.

Then I have some who wanted a hourly breakdown, which I did and added to the post. 

I have some who want to see more details of the work.. which I’m trying to accomplish but the nature of the work and the NDA’s make it tough. 

Then I have you who says no completed work should be included, which I think is strange. 

I have a hard time just “taking your advice” as your advice does not seem to be based on facts or logic. You keep saying the devs should be paid more, I agree and they are. You have to actually look at the full proposals and include the length of the job as well as the length of the pay window. Mine is only 60days pay window, theirs is a year. These details sort of matter when discussing the actual pay compared to one another. 

So yes, it seems everyone has very very different ideas of what I should do.. so I’m not sure what your simple “win win” suggestion is even. 

And all this focus on what someone dealing with high level work with major corporations is doing and criticizing any compensation... while you all ignore the “authors” making content and pulling out 30k +

Is their content more valued than the exchange listings? I’m a bit confused.. as I spent 14hrs yesterday working on multiple exchanges and it would have taken me maybe 30 minutes to make a post.. Maybe some individuals, like yourself, should look at the big picture and weigh some value in vs value out. Just a suggestion.
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@woelfchen ·
a meme bot for bernie? how did you get that idea?

just post some more memes :)
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@xxxxxxxxxx · (edited)
I don't bow down to little bitch terrorists.  Have fun!!!  Bring it on!!!

All bark, no bite.
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@memehub · (edited)
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Ik, there is no reasoning with you, thats fine. Its not like the community suffers from such things (eye roll)
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@xxxxxxxxxx ·
Please, explain how you think someone should request funding in ADVANCE of doing work like getting the TOP exchanges in the WORLD on board.  Clueless fucking troll.

Of course it doesn't matter to people like you with 0 stake, but to some of us, who aren't poor AF, what Justine did was HUGE for the future of Hive.

You're clearly to fucking poor and ignorant to understand, but, that's reality.
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