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· @meno · (edited)
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Is hive ready for primetime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf_gdHXv9GA

I attempted to upload this to 3speak, but there's some technical issues happening in our beloved platform, so I'm left resorting to using Youtube again. 

With that said, I think the conversation we had yesterday after the Peace and Money show was incredibly valuable. It wouldn't be feasible to address/share in this video everything we walked about, but I'm happy we had that long talk. 

At some point @starkerz shared his view on how we've failed to retain influencers here- painfully I have to accept his statements as truth. Hence why I'm making this video, because I really feel we need a cultural change, as much as we need new tech. 

Can't wait to get the community's take on this. 

MenO
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@agmoore ·
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Nike pays people to wear its brand.  The value the company gets from publicity presumably far outweighs the cost of paying a celebrity. Maybe Hive can look at celebrity the same way. The high-value names may cost in rewards earned, but the publicity, and aura of legitimacy, they bring to Hive will likely outweigh that cost.  

We should do anything we can to onboard the 'influencers'(oh how I hate that wordπŸ˜„),and to keep them. 
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@meno ·
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This makes sense to me. I may not like the whole "influencer" thing. But this is how the game is played. 
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@captainbob ·
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I've had some recent issues uploading to 3speak as well thus the reason I often fall to YouTube, but yesterday did have some success.  There have been several influencers from the "Old days" that tried out the chain.  One that comes to mind back then was Kraig Adams.  He came on and tested the waters and walked away.  I even reached out to him to make sure it was legit him via DM on twitter back then and he confirmed it was him.  I just wanted to make sure someone wasn't faking his name and stealing his video content.  At the time, he just didn't feel like it was stable/consistent enough to be worth his time (he's a video creator).  So interesting that today, we still have times when we can't upload :D  Short answer is...no, we aren't ready.
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@meno ·
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I have to ask, mostly because I don't really know. Is 3speak being down a common event? 
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@captainbob ·
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I don't really know honestly.  I'm a bit of a random uploader so the last 3 or 4 times I tried it wouldn't upload. I think for many, like myself, you just want it to work and if you have had the YouTube experience, it's extremely reliable.  If you've put the time into creating, editing, coloring, etc a video piece...you don't want to screw around with an upload process that doesn't work <shrug>.
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@por500bolos ·
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> Can't wait to get the community's take on this.

Well, over [here](https://hive.blog/hive/@por500bolos/the-chicken-and-the-egg-a-hive-s-version-cautionary-tale) maybe there is something worth to Β«clickΒ», read and digest about this conundrum you are talking about my friend. https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://cdn.disclose.tv/libraries/smiley/images/rtft.gif
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@steevc ·
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I used to follow Atheist Republic. They posted all their videos here, but didn't really engage. Maybe that put people off them, but having their content on Hive was an asset. The fact is that some whales here will use their power to drive people away for whatever reason. You cannot generalise about them though. 

I looked up @cryptofinally and @blocktrades tried [to help](https://peakd.com/hive/@blocktrades/qdc0qh) her deal with a troll. Hive does not have the protections of centralised platforms, but it has some ways to deal with that sort of thing.

I just watched this guy talking about how little he makes from his videos elsewhere even with millions of followers. That is largely down to having to pay to use copyright music, but Hive could pay better if it had those numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R60YFOwYbbg

I've been here almost since the start and seen so many promising people give up on it. I think some just went where the biggest audience was. We have the chicken/egg situation of not having the audience for 'influencers' and not having the content to attract more consumers.

We do have !BEER though!
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@meno ·
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This guy is a monster. (awesome to have him here) But, I insist. We are not ready for primetime just yet. 
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@steevc ·
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What will it take? Some of us have been waiting for years. The whales will not go away, but they stand to profit if Hive does take off.

Meanwhile we should be supporting those creators who are putting real quality content here and then news may spread that there is an alternative. We have to welcome cool people. There are some people I follow who literally only get comments from me.
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@valued-customer ·
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I today asked Peakd what prevents embedding video from other platforms and in different formats, that other fora have been able to do for decades.  I suspect there is no good reason, but there is a reason.

Hive is kept this size because this is what the oligarchy can keep control of.  Steem reveals what happens to a plutocracy that attracts investor interest.  The sole attraction Hive presents is the ability to simply completely control governance by no more stringent barrier than buying more tokens than anyone else.  Certainly our performance financially isn't attracting investors.

Thanks!
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@meno ·
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You mean Rumble videos? What platform should we be integrating here? 
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@valued-customer · (edited)
https://peakd.com/hive-139531/@valued-customer/re-peakopen-stt0yk

>"Several other platforms and common video protocols, Rumble, Odysee, X, and Bitchute, mp4, and webm would probably cover the vast majority of content creators needs today. Short video clips have been potential to discussion fora for decades."

That is the short list, of course, excerpted from my comment to Peakd.

Edit:  also, when we provide a link to a video we direct traffic to that site.  When we embed video into a post on Hive, we instead create a library of content here, and reduce the need of interested people to leave Hive to learn what they want to know.
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