create account

Is it time to grift? by meno

View this thread on: hive.blogpeakd.comecency.com
· @meno ·
$15.20
Is it time to grift?
There's a battle in the so called left that has been drawing my attention as of late. I should say, so that I'm completely transparent here; that I'm not the biggest fan of TYT, as I always found them to be too performative, but the "new scandal" seems to be sincere. Yes, that's irony for you.


![Ana_Kasparian_and_Cenk_Uygur_hosting_The_Young_Turks_(26942061744).jpg](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/meno/23wWRSgSrgUisZphJhGd8wvpp2c14d3ejG4b8dENwKJMguN4BFhMQoNkFMr6SGhtc9V35.jpg)
<br>

It's always good practice to remember that the new media, the online political pundits, are not immune to monetary incentives. Therefor when there's a change of position, a change of heart if you will; it's good practice to ask ourselves if a bad incentive may have been the motive.

# It started with Ana

The details of the story don't seem to be that important, but they seem to work for the narrative. Ana, who has always been very performative with her outrage, found herself in a pickle and the piranhas ate her alive.

Nobody with a good heart can look at the homeless situation in America and think to themselves that we are on a good path. There are places in California that have hundreds of homeless people to the point where these tent cities seem to be taken straight out of a dystopian film.

The naive idea that all we need to do is throw money at the situation is a common song sang by the online left. Give them money, give them homes, etc. Of course, we can have a debate about that, but if we simply ignore the causes, the addiction issues, the mental health issues, etc. We are probably never going to get very far here.

At any rate, the story goes that Ana was attacked by some homeless people. As a chronically online persona, she decided it would be a good idea to complain about it, and this lead to the piranha left to see her as a target.

Soon after she announced she was "leaving the left" proving to me once again that tribality focused mindset the "thought leaders" have over principles. 

# FOR SPARTA!

As you might imagine, the lefty youtubers decided to make her the new punching bag, the new Dave Rubin, if you will. And, these actions only "helped" her cement her decision to leave the left as she calls it.

There are plenty of content creators and Twitterinos who attack Ana on the daily, so much so, that I feel naming them is almost pointless.

Since Cenk has always been her co-host, her friend, it also meant that people began attacking him for "allowing" her to continue working for the network. A practice of true tolerance and liberal values according to some. 

then Trump wins...

# Cenk, and the new Teddy Bear

If there's something known about Cenk and his politics, is that his show has always addressed the other side as enemies. Cenk, like his right wing counterparts, use this fuel, this hatred of the others to create loyal followers.

My main problem with Cenk, and more broadly TYT has always been how unable they always seem to be to be level headed about the issues. Everything is about race, about discrimination and about owning the conservatives, in the same stupid way that a Ben Shapiro does; The other side of the same stupid coin.

It could be that with Trump's victory, Cenk realizes that it's in his best interest to not be a target for what's sure to be an administration that doesn't like dissenters. But as someone who is audience captured, this shift will never be tolerated.

Just imagine how bizarre it would be to see Alex Jones showing up on Bill Maher to talk about a cultural issue, to attempt to reach across the isle. I think most of us would find that quite comical.

Cenk is in quite a predicament at the moment, because his allies are turning against him and he's about to find himself alone in the front lines of whatever battle he believes he needs to be fighting in. 

Some TYT contributors have quit, some TYT allies have decided to go on the offense, and some of the so called "progressive" voices have decided to call Cenk's new approach to politics: "The grift into MAGA".

# So what now?

Of course, I don't know. I find these political shows to be akin to a "You are not the father of the baby" shows, the Maury's of the world. So, as it pertains to how this will change the political tides, the power players, I think the impact is quite minimal.

That being said, I hope that eventually all these shows, all these pundits who's business model is to radicalize people to either side of the wings, eventually die off. This is to say, for them to become "not a good business idea".

But, do I think Cenk is going to come out MAGA before the year ends. No, not really. If he does, his career will surely be over, simply because there is no way MAGA would give him a home. There's no money there to be made.

It's just a spectacle, a shitshow for those of us who know that putting on a red or a blue shirt is as effective as changing socks to go swimming. 

MenO




👍  , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , and 55 others
properties (23)
authormeno
permlinkis-it-time-to-grift
categorytrump
json_metadata{"app":"peakd/2024.12.6","format":"markdown","tags":["trump","maga","tyt","cenk","grift"],"users":[],"image":["https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/meno/23wWRSgSrgUisZphJhGd8wvpp2c14d3ejG4b8dENwKJMguN4BFhMQoNkFMr6SGhtc9V35.jpg"]}
created2024-12-29 16:08:51
last_update2024-12-29 16:08:51
depth0
children6
last_payout2025-01-05 16:08:51
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value7.612 HBD
curator_payout_value7.592 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length4,953
author_reputation529,171,271,365,751
root_title"Is it time to grift?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id139,560,790
net_rshares31,597,511,907,174
author_curate_reward""
vote details (119)
@bhr-curation ·
Great content! Thanks for sharing it on Hive. We’d love to see you join Block Horse Racing and start winning! There’s a reward waiting in your wallet to kick off your journey in the BHR-Game multiverse. !BHRT

Let’s enjoy building a healthy movement together on the Hive Blockchain!
properties (22)
authorbhr-curation
permlinkre-meno-sp9rmx
categorytrump
json_metadata{"tags":["trump"],"app":"peakd/2024.12.6","image":[],"users":[]}
created2024-12-29 19:02:57
last_update2024-12-29 19:02:57
depth1
children2
last_payout2025-01-05 19:02:57
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length282
author_reputation7,758,300,250,884
root_title"Is it time to grift?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id139,564,555
net_rshares0
@bot-bdbhueso ·
<center>[![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266172830744055911/1289329404798959759/1._CURACION.gif?ex=66f915d4&is=66f7c454&hm=4e634eb82a721167c5af918549929b6328e070e476dacdf8ba55f2de098e7f03&)](https://peakd.com/hive-192162/@ecosistema-mv/novedades-del-bot-de-recompensas-tipping-bot-hueso-y-bhrt-esp-eng)</center>

---
<center>Uses: 51/58
!BHRT</center>
properties (22)
authorbot-bdbhueso
permlinkre-bhr-curation-re-meno-sp9rmx-20241229t190303803z
categorytrump
json_metadata{"app":"hive-bot/0.6.3"}
created2024-12-29 19:03:03
last_update2024-12-29 19:03:03
depth2
children0
last_payout2025-01-05 19:03:03
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length363
author_reputation497,039,129,789
root_title"Is it time to grift?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id139,564,558
net_rshares0
@bot-bdbhueso ·
<center>[![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266172830744055911/1289329404798959759/1._CURACION.gif?ex=66f915d4&is=66f7c454&hm=4e634eb82a721167c5af918549929b6328e070e476dacdf8ba55f2de098e7f03&)](https://peakd.com/hive-192162/@ecosistema-mv/novedades-del-bot-de-recompensas-tipping-bot-hueso-y-bhrt-esp-eng)</center>

---
<center>Uses: 50/58
!HUESO</center>
properties (22)
authorbot-bdbhueso
permlinkre-bhr-curation-re-meno-sp9rmx-20241229t190304046z
categorytrump
json_metadata{"app":"hive-bot/0.6.3"}
created2024-12-29 19:03:06
last_update2024-12-29 19:03:06
depth2
children0
last_payout2025-01-05 19:03:06
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length364
author_reputation497,039,129,789
root_title"Is it time to grift?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id139,564,559
net_rshares0
@bpcvoter1 ·
> ### Hey there, the Bilpcoin team just wanted to give you a virtual high-five we manually curated this post. 

<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/9ezd9g"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/9ezd9g.jpg" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a><div><a href="https://imgflip.com/memegenerator">from Imgflip Meme Generator</a></div>

[Their attempts to intimidate and silence their critics are equally concerning. The use of downvotes as a means of censorship is a clear indication of their desperation to maintain their grip on the narrative. But it's not working](https://hive.blog/hive-165962/@bpcvoter1/their-attempts-to-intimidate-and-silence-their-critics-are-equally-concerning-the-use-of-downvotes-as-a-means-of-censorship-is-a)

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-sp2q9h

WE EXPOSED A SUPER FARM ON HIVE

[Super farm https://peakd.com/@memesandstuff/wallet spam scam accounts](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/super-farm-https-peakd-com-memesandstuff-wallet-spam-scam-accounts)
WE EXPOSED A SUPER FARM ON HIVE

[Super farm https://peakd.com/@memesandstuff/wallet spam scam accounts](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/super-farm-https-peakd-com-memesandstuff-wallet-spam-scam-accounts)


>**Earn BPC on all your posts!** Simply add #Bilpcoin or #BPC to your post, and you'll be eligible to earn BPC. Just don't forget to post your own content and avoid self-voting. !MEME !PGM !LOLZ

[we are excited to announce our ambitious endeavor to create the largest curation trail on Hive and, by extension, the world LOL](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/we-are-excited-to-announce-our-ambitious-endeavor-to-create-the-largest-curation-trail-on-hive-and-by-extension-the-world-lol)

https://hive.blog/hive-140217/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sp87n1

[themarkymark (80)in LeoFinance 18 hours ago You are the abuse on Hive  hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter3-smp740 LOL  TRANSACTIONS DON'T LIE PEOPLE DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO    Curation reward for BUILDAWHALE COMMENT FARM buildawhale51.108 HP](https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter3/themarkymark-80-in-leofinance-18-hours-ago-you-are-the-abuse-on-hive-hive-blog-hive-167922-themarkymark-re-bpcvoter3-smp740-lol)

https://hive.blog/@kevm/comments 

https://hive.blog/@kcgm/comments
👎  ,
properties (23)
authorbpcvoter1
permlinksp9jkz
categorytrump
json_metadata{"tags":["bilpcoin","bpc"],"image":["https://i.imgflip.com/9ezd9g.jpg"],"links":["https://imgflip.com/i/9ezd9g"],"app":"hiveblog/0.1"}
created2024-12-29 16:09:42
last_update2024-12-29 16:09:42
depth1
children0
last_payout2025-01-05 16:09:42
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.000 HBD
curator_payout_value0.000 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length2,268
author_reputation-19,653,111,151,697
root_title"Is it time to grift?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id139,560,805
net_rshares-10,145,229,300
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)
@valued-customer ·
$0.10
>"Just imagine how bizarre it would be to see Alex Jones showing up on Bill Maher to talk about a cultural issue, to attempt to reach across the isle. I think most of us would find that quite comical."

Because Bill Maher and Alex Jones are both professional entertainers, that specialize in political commentary, I am frankly surprised this has not happened.  The entertainment value of such a production would surely well reward both.  

However, I think the reason that hasn't happened is actually quite obvious.  Both entertainers have their own market that disagree with the other, and if they enabled frank and forthright discourse between the market leaders, that would enable the markets on which they depend financially to also resolve their differences, which would cause those markets that only exist because of that opposition to shrink, decreasing their long term viability to Jones and Maher.

Too often, it is these economic realities that keep us divided - and conquered.

Thanks!
👍  
properties (23)
authorvalued-customer
permlinkre-meno-sp9v16
categorytrump
json_metadata{"tags":["trump"],"app":"peakd/2024.12.6","image":[],"users":[]}
created2024-12-29 20:17:33
last_update2024-12-29 20:17:33
depth1
children0
last_payout2025-01-05 20:17:33
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.051 HBD
curator_payout_value0.052 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length996
author_reputation358,929,015,869,997
root_title"Is it time to grift?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id139,565,714
net_rshares215,445,213,695
author_curate_reward""
vote details (1)
@zekepickleman ·
$0.16
Ah yes what a silly game. Over the last few years for me, all the effort to cram people to deep red or true blue has done the opposite for me. The hardcore virtue signalling talking heads on the left as almost as embarrassing as the moron patrol with selective intellect on the right. That and all the pillow promises they haven’t the faintest intention of coming through with make it futile and ridiculous spectacle. 

I like to care for all like the left and aim for fiscal responsibility like the right on a traditional sense. Even that is not the case now as it seems the left would rather talk and spend money on their virtue signalling and the right are just grifting the sheep with fake religious symbols. 

I love to ignore those parades of non substance and focus my attention back on my community and give network of real people!
👍  ,
properties (23)
authorzekepickleman
permlinkre-meno-20241229t11330383z
categorytrump
json_metadata{"type":"comment","tags":["trump","maga","tyt","cenk","grift"],"app":"ecency/3.2.0-mobile","format":"markdown+html"}
created2024-12-29 16:33:00
last_update2024-12-29 16:33:00
depth1
children0
last_payout2025-01-05 16:33:00
cashout_time1969-12-31 23:59:59
total_payout_value0.079 HBD
curator_payout_value0.079 HBD
pending_payout_value0.000 HBD
promoted0.000 HBD
body_length839
author_reputation779,945,567,922,687
root_title"Is it time to grift?"
beneficiaries[]
max_accepted_payout1,000,000.000 HBD
percent_hbd10,000
post_id139,561,303
net_rshares332,798,575,265
author_curate_reward""
vote details (2)