I reserve that for only the most unrepentant of abusive people. And I'm even relaxing my campaign against the BPC farm now that their spam flood has lessened. They seem to be switching from the long tirades to basic "support my token" nonsense. I can let that slide. *Caveat emptor.*

I do have her contact and have reached out. 🙃 It's kind scary introducing hive to new people tbh and now I know how big responsibility that is. As much as we already told them what not to do, We can't really control everything can we?

At one time. I delegated to an anti-abuse initiative. Now I don't and I don't support the Hive Watchers DHF proposal. One mechanism of protest would be to see the DHF proposal defunded until more constructive policies were adopted.

I have both reported and challenged individual cases. Sometimes people are getting downvoted and, when asked, there doesn't appear to be any reason at all and the downvotes are stopped. Downvotes are also used if an account is compromised, (for example, if a bad actor has got hold of any of their keys), but no message has been left to explain that or where to get help.

Tackling abuse can be a grind and sometimes it can be very widespread - 18,000 accounts were created and causing disruption as an example. Perhaps one way that Hivewatchers is coping is to add accounts to a bot until they have alternative information - hence the continued downvoting. Perhaps what we all have to do is query a downvoted account with Hivewatchers when we see one and check what the problem is.

Although the downvotes on this account don't seem to be coming from Hive Watchers?

so so good, I'm very glad and making new connections and friends 

thank you sir haha

I don't think wanting to build the economic value of your account on Hive is a silly thing, and the actual math makes that impossible, not difficult, or improbable, but literally unable to be done, for accounts flagged to zero on every post and comment.  It is illuminating that this is the practice, rather than the obviously reasonable practice of flagging to warn someone not to continue plagiarizing or posting pics without attribution *when they do that*.  There is a different reason that accounts are flagged to zero permanently than the stated reasons for flags.  

That reason is <a href="https://peakd.com/hive/@khrom/the-downvote-economy-how-to-steal-the-value-of-someone-s-work-and-get-rich-off-their-efforts/">power to control Hive</a>.  If a colluding group of stakeholders forthrightly stated they were going to maintain majority stake and control Hive governance, the market for Hive would be reduced, if not eliminated.  Suits or criminal complaints might even arise (IANAL, but falsely claiming decentralization and censorship resistance when deliberately centralizing and censoring may be actionable).  If some mechanism could overcome that collusion, it might even be tried.  Certainly stating such intent would be laying down a gauntlet.  So, the colluding group of stakeholders does not admit that is what they are doing.  HW larps as retarded middle schoolers demanding outrageous humiliation to cease zeroing out all rewards to victim accounts, knowing that almost no one is so abject they would submit to such humiliation.  When HW flagging can't be justified, other conspirators step up, blacklisting selected targets and eliminating their extraction of rewards permanently, for any reason, or no reason stated.

Because of enormous pools of socks some ninjamined accounts have today, it's quite possible that some of the flagwars were merely simulated.  Bernisanders probably eliminated tens of thousands of users before just vanishing (after committing crimes by threatening people).  The bidbots probably did too, just by degrading the platform beneath any normal person's level of self respect.  

Frankly, it's just a matter of time before some kind of legal action is dragged to Hive by these behaviours, even if Hive is run by actual spooks.  I've seen that the pseudonymity availed by Hive can be broken with facility, and there are certainly still hactivists competent to despoil spook ops that eventually will if that's what it is.

All we can do is enjoy the ride while it lasts.