It seems to be a truism of modern "progressive" thought that the best way to cover your trail when you screw up is to make the most demonstrable outlandish and false assertion possible and to just scream it louder and louder as "your truth" whenever challenged. This works particularly well, of course, when most governments, "established science," and the mainstream media are all cheering for you and helping you to cover your track by repeating and amplifying your lies. This certainly is the case when it comes to the Big-Pharma proponents of mandatory vaccination and "the safety and efficacy of vaccines" whenever challenged by people "outside their club" to put up the data to prove their assertions.  (Image courtesy of foodinsight.org.) Let's take a look, for example, at this recent such challenge to standard dogma regarding the safety and reasonableness for society of taking the Measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/04/no_author/statistics-show-the-mmr-vaccine-kills-more-people-than-the-measles-does/ Here is a key excerpt from the link above: "For example, during the measles outbreak in California in 2015, a large number of suspected cases occurred in recent vaccinees. Of the 194 measles virus sequences obtained in the United States in 2015, 73 were identified as vaccine sequences. The media (Pharma-owned) generated high public anxiety. This fear mongering led to the demonization of unvaccinated children, who were perceived as the spreaders of this disease. Rebecca J. McNall, a co-author of the published report, is a CDC official in the Division of Viral Diseases who had the data proving that the measles outbreak was in part caused by the vaccine. It is evidence of the vaccineβs failure to provide immunity."  (Image courtesy of co2islife.wordpress.com.) Oops...The World Health Organation (WHO,) strangely, (not!) has not acknowledge this in any way, made no revisions of its pronouncement about the "dangers" of people who happen to believe the real science on the issue, or done anything to warn global consumers that MMR is apparently more trouble than it is worth. Surprised? You shouldn't be. Consider this: "From 2013 to 2017, measles killed 2 people, but the vaccine killed 127 people. The odds of dying from the measles are 0.01 β 0.02 percent, meaning you have a greater chance of getting hit by a lightning bolt multiple times. Furthermore, if your child contracts the measles, they will be immune for life, but that cannot be said for vaccinated children. This is why those who are doing their research are having a hard time understanding how the vaccine, and even worse, mandatory vaccination in general makes any sense at all, especially when the vaccine seems to be more dangerous than the measles itself."  (Oh yea...and mostly the same people pushing one thing also push the other...from sites.psu.edu.) Indeed it does seem that way. NOW...the only thing really needed is FOR THE PEOPLE (the bosses of this country, remember?) to get this information, so that they can make informed choices, where/as/if necessary, to revolt against "junk science," demand that laws mandating vaccination change, and that corporations pushing them knowing (like Merck, who is still in court over this one, for example) they are pushing a false narrative-- v.v. the risk/reward ratios of their products-- be punished. The problem FOR THE PEOPLE, of course, is that the MSM and the major social media platforms (beyond Steemit, of course) are TIED AT THE HIP to big-pharma and the politicos who depend on big-pharma donations for their campaigns. As a result, the book burning on a massive Modern scale and style has begun in full virulence and will not likely stop until either the scientists who have pushed this stuff are all dead from the protestor revolts, or the people protesting are all dead... either from yielding to the deadly vaccination regimens, or into the hands of government hoodlums criminalizing and executing them. This truly, now, has reached the scale of a potential civil war...state against state, region against region, family against family, spouse against spouse, and most importantly --ELITE BENEFICIARIES against payees and victims. Society, of course, should err on the side of caution when it comes to such enormous debates, but to them (the brainwashed) that means "saving humanity from the herds of unwashed"--i.e. the unvaccinated resistors. Sad. This is the ultimate battle of the infowar. We either win, or we die.
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Halfwit retard is retarded.
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Thanks!
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author | hippie-witha-gun |
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lol...
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Countervoting. Free speech! Posted using [Partiko Android](https://partiko.app/referral/luegenbaron)
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Thanks!... following and reciprocating.
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Don't forget: MMR is not only a vaccine against measles. Mumps and Rubella are perhaps even more dangerous than measles. My view regarding vaccines is simply put: I've got a vaccination scar on one of my upper arms, but not on the other. The second vaccination wasn't needed anymore because there were no more smallpox.
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Yea..same here. One scar that lasted for a couple decades. Gone now...
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Well, well, well what do we have here, some more misguided and slanted information from our favorite poster mepatriot whom I am sure has been vaccinated and had their children vaccinated as they are such fine patriots just trying to make some money regardless of who they hurt in the process. Nothing to much worry about, politicians do it all the time, it just makes everyone more the wiser to what end people will go to make a few bucks. First let's get some stats we can lay up against your claims so when everyone's done evaluating all the information they can properly weight their options. Before vaccinations in the United States roughly three to four million people came down with measles, of that three to four million people four to five hundred people died each year..remember that's just in the United States, there was another 48,000 hospitalizations and 4000 cases of encephalitis, that would be swelling of the brain from measles. Now I was going to actually do a blog on the measles and how our unvettered illegal immigration problem leads to a lot of our outbreaks. But you know what...that little endeavor left my head spinning in circles, but knowing what I had come out of that idea knowing so did your article..so I guess you leave me with no choice. First and foremost you have to understand measles. If one ever looks into it it leaves you wondering if they called it the measles because you break out with multiple little red bumps or do they call it that because, unbeknownst to me and apparently you there are several strains of measles. And guess what?...they come from all over the world. Let me show you from some of the evidence that you have provided. >Eighty-eight surveillance specimens that were previously genotyped as genotype A, 96 specimens of nonvaccine measles virus genotypes (B3, C2, D3, D4, D6, D7, D8, D9, E, H1, and H2), and isolates for genotypes B2, C1, D2, D5, D6, D7, D10, G1, G2, and H2 Yup, that's what those little buggers are called: genotypes. There are 24 such strains from what they call 8 clades and even more wild caught strains that stem from all those even. Each type comes from a specific region of the world. So what does all that mean?...well when you are up there screaming out info such as this: >"For example, during the measles outbreak in California in 2015, a large number of suspected cases occurred in recent vaccinees. Of the 194 measles virus sequences obtained in the United States in 2015, 73 were identified as vaccine sequences. ..that doesn't mean that 73 were caused by some sequences in vaccines that means that 73 were confirmed as a known genotype used in vaccines to prevent measles and 121 of them were, to put it in simple language....relatives, also known as wildcaught, those ones that just keep popping up out of nowhere. You know, like those relatives you haven't seen for years that pop up at Christmas. That's what that whole article was trying to tell you, how very crucial it is when there's an outbreak to sequence every case to find where it's coming from and what they are dealing with. Because also unbeknownst to most people the measles is like any other virus, it's just like coming down with the flu, though you may be immune from one strain you are not immune from another. Though unlike the flu Measles is monotypic, meaning outside of wildcaught strains Measles stem from a single genus that vaccinated people are protected from. What that means for some of the cases out in California is that a wildcaught strain produced the measles. If I remember right it was a B3 genotype wildcaught virus. >"From 2013 to 2017, measles killed 2 people, but the vaccine killed 127 people. This data is flawed. The date is actually from 2003 to 2015. The number of deaths is wrong also. The US announced in the year 2000 it had eradicated measles from the US. The confusions lays with confirmed versus suspected cases. The last known confirmed death was in 2015, before that the last know confirmed death was in 2003. In 2009 and 2010 there was two reported but not confirmed deaths in each of those years. That means there was four suspected cases listed. It wasn't until 2015 that another confirmed case arose, it wasn't until the woman's autopsy that they found she had died from pneumonia caused by the measles, she was on several other medications and not in good health, she had a suppressed immune system. The claim of no deaths between 2003 and 2015 is based on confirmed cases of where people died from having measles. Why? Because you can't catch Measles, Mumps or Rubella during a time frame that the diseases were eradicated from the US. From 2004 up until 2015 there were no deaths from any of those diseases. The other 127 cases never happened. That's because people who have an anti vax agenda conveniently decided not to read the disclaimer on the VAERS, Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). >When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any >reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. >Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects >data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or >truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not >documentation that a vaccine caused the event. VAERS was set up to track vaccine trends, millions of kids get vaccines and some do get sick and some may die but just because they die around the time they get a vaccine does not mean the vaccine caused their death. If someone dies it doesn't stop them from reporting that person received a vaccine even when the death is totally unrelated to getting a vaccine. Now lets talk a bit about China. Just recently there was yet another report of bad vaccines in China, coupled with what transpired in the years surrounding 2010 no one could blame the citizens of China for not trusting the safety of vaccines anymore. So much in fact most started traveling thousands of miles to get there children vaccinated. Exactly what did happen in this latest flare up? Seems they came across melamine in vaccines that treat people for rabies and it caused quite a few deaths. For some reason China seems to have a rather high rate of rabies in that country, those shots aren't good for dog let alone man but hey I recall a few years ago that they found melamine in dog food that was being shipped to the US which ultimately led to the death of several dogs here. Who in their right mind would allow China to feed their dog let alone give them a shot. I know I always look for the made in the USA label before buying my dog food now. Before that they tried and convicted some woman who had three hundred distributors who they busted back in 2010 for selling bogus vaccines on the market. It wasn't that if legit vaccines would have worked, that wasn't involved in the equation, they weren't intent on selling a certified product to begin with. My motto is when it comes to life or death decisions China isn't fit for man nor beast. When we get off talking about what happened at those colleges we'd go back to talking genotypes, which we have covered fairly well above. Considering it was in 1991, way before the eradication and global travel, mixed in with a high population of college students it's anyone's guess what strains came trotting along, it appears until these recent outbreaks amid an ever increasing shrinking world where people are bumping shoulders within hours of coming from another country that sequencing became an urgent matter. There's a fairly decent explanation in all that, all those cases came before the outbreaks in California where sequencing and finding a way to quickly identify wildcaught strains came about. I think there's one other fairly notable item to mention, the person who wrote this article you based your post on is peddling his own assertions of what this data means, it quite evident in the fact that you get a free one hour take of his video if you want anymore of his misleading antidotes you have to pay for it. Enough said.
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Nicely put and thank you for the continued info! NYC just mandated vaccines for specific zip codes... Stay vigilant https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-09/new-york-city-orders-mandatory-vaccinations-amid-worst-measles-outbreak-1991#comment_stream
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Oh geesh! We can't be far now from the "great pandemic" FF....
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