 I didn't bury the lead on this one. The title of this post is the thought I have been considering for several weeks now. I'm in quarantine, like everyone else. My work is not demanding my full attention. My son is entertaining himself on the Xbox. I have time. Time isn't the issue.  Maybe I don't have anything to post about. We're locked up, we don't do a whole lot, so not a whole lot happening to post. But I make posts to Facebook. I don't earn tokens by posting on Facebook. So how is it I have content to share on Facebook that isn't good enough to share on Hive?  I think it boils down to a carry over attitude from the old way. Engagement was crap over on Steem. Why should I expect any better on the fork? It's essentially the same people right? I wrote posts over there to collect my auto votes and that was about it. I might get one or two comments if it was a particularly interesting post. But mostly it was just an exercise in collecting the votes that I had "paid for". So I guess I need a little help from the Hive community. What is engagement like over here in this new land? Are there more people out exploring posts and making comments so we can have an actual conversation? This isn't a plea for attention, or that I want anyone to try to convince me to post. It is really an honest question. Is there more engagement value here than we were experiencing in the old world?
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I agree that the lack of engagement is an issue and it has been an issue prior to the fork. Most of the votes are auto-votes or manual votes without reading. This is more apparent if you just look at the page view statistics offered by Peakd.com on your articles. I see 2 main problems and I will like to draw comparison with mainstream social networks. On mainstream social networks, you basically bootstrapped your account with a group of your friends. Naturally, your group of friends will be more likely to engage with your posts. In addition, any random guy can comment on your post (depending on your privacy settings of course), which further increases enhancements. This is enabled through easier sign-up process that platforms like Reddit or Quora have. While the platform itself it unable to fix the issue of getting your friends onboard, I think interfaces like peakd.com should consider implementing a simpler commenting process to allow people without a Hive account to leave a comment.
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It helps if you go out to other people's blogs and make comments and not just expect others to comment on your posts. I'm getting interaction every day but it requires for me to be active.
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>*I wrote posts over there to collect my auto votes and that was about it. I might get one or two comments if it was a particularly interesting post. But mostly it was just an exercise in collecting the votes that I had "paid for".* The sad (but cynical) truth. Thanks for your honesty :-)
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Well to ask engangement actually you need to engage yourself I see that this is your first post here in a month and you haven't commented to anyone before, so is easy to understand that you won't receive the same attention as the people who does have interactions with others. This is a "quid pro quo" like almost everything else in life.
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I'm not asking about MY engagement. I am asking about engagement in general. Compare and contrast what Hive's engagement is like versus the last two years of Steem.
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I see many engagement on interesting posts, of course can be improved but we're just starting here, even a lot of users of steemit haven't joined yet to this chain, and you can't compare this with facebook or other social media where are millions of users. Steemit had the bots problem, that here seems like is being solved. I don't want to be rude and maybe is a matter of misreading by my side but I see in your post more a complain than a real question about this chains engagement sincerely.
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it is better, but it's still not great. however, i did a contest recently on twitter, started a new project called @hivepeople, and am making art so that Hive can go to the moon.....why? Because @theycallmedan made me realize Hive has a chance....and for me, i want to see people more free....that's my motivation....plus survival....as a creative person, it's hard to earn in the "normal" world. ask yourself why you want to do anything.
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i get it. I had this same problem a while ago, because it was still STeem, and tbh, i just didn't feel like Steem was going anywhere.... fast forward to now, Hive has a clean start, and many people are really stepping up....there are tons of communities forming, so my advice is to find your passion, join a community or start your own.
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i have one question for you: what are you interested in?
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LOL, this post got a lot of engagement and a decent payout....its good to be honest!
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Hello @mikepm74, I completely agree with you and this is why I tried to create a community but in the end it is also hard to find people that want to engage and not just post and flee :). If you are interested in Crypto (investing, art, trading, fundamentals...) you will always be welcome in #HODL community. Sincerely, @vlemon
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First step is to engage other posts, at least that's what I noticed. It makes people look at your profile too.
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