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Minnowbooster: Wrong Vote Values - The Problem and the Upcoming Solution by minnowbooster

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Minnowbooster: Wrong Vote Values - The Problem and the Upcoming Solution
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Hey there, @therealwolf here to give an official statement regarding our recent voting calculation problems.

<h1>What's the problem?</h1>

There have been a lot of questions recently about the difference between our displayed vote value which we report on our comments or display on our website and the actual received vote value shown on Steemit.

![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmW2L6xRo6a79XiEaTGNChDXFDwDjS3kiaTLzTHEAKjDZH/image.png)

<h1>Why does this problem happen?</h1>

The reason for this difference is that we calculate and execute the upvote without rounding it - which results in upvotes like: 

*5.2% or 3.7%*

The Steem blockchain records the unrounded value but pays out in rounded values, rounded either up or down. Meaning:

*5.2% becomes 5.0% and 3.7% becomes 4.0% etc* 

This results in the vote value either increasing or decreasing. So sometimes your value gets increased to more than you actually expected and sometimes reduced to less than you should receive. (but normally still more than you send).

Now, because our Steem Power is currently so high - the difference between 1% more or less is big; over $1.

While we know and understand this problem - there is currently not much we can do until we have implemented a system that handles the small differences.

*Additionally*, I want to mention that, if you check the voting value through [steemnow.com](https://www.steemnow.com/) - the rounding happens often in very weird ways.

0.1 rounds to 1
1.1 rounds to 2
1.5 rounds to 2
1.9 rounds to 2

So keep that in mind when you calculate the value yourself.

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<h1>Our Solution</h1>

We will soon have a system in place where those problems will be fixed, but until then please keep in mind that we're doing our best to give you the best return on your investments! 

Until then we have reduced the Daily Limit to 5 and Weekly Limit to 15.

And even while those calculation problems are happening - MinnowBooster is still giving out very good returns and you should get **at least** your money back. 

If you are getting an upvote that is less than the amount you send - for example: you send 3 SBD and got only a 2.85$ Upvote, then contact our customer support on discord. (@furious-one can help you out)

Last but not least - keep also in mind that as the Steem value and the reward balance/claims changes - the upvote value changes too and this can create a difference in comparison to what MinnowBooster comments under your post.

**For example:** If Steem has a value of $1.40 and you get an upvote from MinnowBooster - we calculate the spot value at that time. If Steem drops to $1.00 thereafter  - the upvote value drops too, but the value on the comment/image under your posts stays the same, conversly if the price of Steem goes up higher the value increases but the comment value in our upvote image remains the same, because it was the spot value you received at the time.

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I hope this explanation was detailed enough. 
If you still have questions - please ask them in the comments below and I will make sure to answer them!

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**What can MINNOWBOOSTER do for you?!**

| What?                                  |   Currency  | Advantages                        |
| ------------------------------------- | ------------- | --------------------------------- |
| Buy upvote                      | SBD           | Earn an instant return          |
| Lease SP from market    | STEEM         | Increase your vote strength and curation rewards
| Delegate SP to market| STEEM POWER  | Earn daily STEEM dividends        |
| Invest STEEM in MinnowBooster      | STEEM         | Earn daily SBD dividends |
| Delegate SP to MinnowBooster                 | STEEM POWER   | Earn daily SBD dividends              |

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**CURRENT PARAMETERS:**
| Parameter              | Value           | Remarks                           |
| ---------------------- | --------------- | --------------------------------- |
| Minimum Upvote         | 5 SBD         | Minimum SBD you can send      |
| Upvote comments?       | **NO**          |                                   |
| Profit at 100% VP      | 3 times         | Check VP at steemnow.com          |
| Daily Limit            | 5.0 SBD         | Maximum you can send in 24h       |
| Weekly Limit           | 15.0 SBD         | 7 day maximum
| Minimum SP Lease       | 1 STEEM         |                                   |
| 1-3 Week Lease  | 1 STEEM/75 SP  | Price per week/Lease size |
| 4-24 week Lease | 1 STEEM/150 SP | Price per week/Lease size |

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### Provide us with feedback

We are happy to hear your feedback about where we can improve. 

### Join our Discord chat 

Get support and connect with us and other Minnowbooster fans! 

<center>[<img src="https://steemitimages.com/DQmV3vq9X1LuEx1JeHCxPMTSyYDeM8MoaMXe2udAUCPM7B6/image.png">](https://discord.gg/S37bYma)</center>


We are always looking to improve @minnowbooster and try to keep you up-to-date whenever something changes. If you have any suggestions about what we should change or add to @minnowbooster, then please write us a comment :) 

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Don't have a Bitshares account? [Create one here](https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=buildteam). 

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*Missed the **BuildTeam** announcement? [Here's all the juicy details](https://steemit.com/buildteam/@buildteam/launching-the-buildteam-token).*

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### Previous Video Tutorials

### [MinnowBooster Tutorial #1: Delegating SP to MinnowBooster](https://steemit.com/minnowbooster/@minnowbooster/minnowbooster-tutorial-1-delegating-sp-to-minnowbooster)

### [MinnowBooster Tutorial #2: Powering up STEEM to MinnowBooster](https://steemit.com/minnowbooster/@minnowbooster/minnowbooster-tutorial-2-powering-up-steem-to-minnowbooster)


### [MinnowBooster Tutorial #3: Upvoting Posts with MinnowBooster](https://steemit.com/minnowbooster/@minnowbooster/minnowbooster-tutorial-3-upvoting-posts-with-minnowbooster)

### [MinnowBooster Tutorial #4: Leasing Delegated Steem Power with MinnowBooster](https://steemit.com/minnowbooster/@minnowbooster/minnowbooster-tutorial-4-leasing-delegated-steem-power-with-minnowbooster)

### [MinnowBooster Tutorial #5: Delegating Steem Power to the Market](https://steemit.com/minnowbooster/@minnowbooster/minnowbooster-tutorial-5-delegating-steem-power-to-the-market)
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And last but not least, here's our cute little footer made by the most epic @ryivhnn! Yes, there are cute little minnows floating around!

![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmbpVHeD1FjDF3b5cQXMZgM6ihJcvGCPEEH85dZEc3Rnj5/image.png)

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Minnowbooster is a @buildteam project by @thecryptodrive (witness) @cryptomancer and @reggaemuffin (witness)

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## Visit our flashy new website! https://minnowbooster.net

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This is a @steemvoter subscription payment post. Thank you to Steemvoter customers for allowing us to use your Steem accounts to upvote this post by virtue of your free subscription to the [Steemvoter.com](https://steemvoter.com) bot service. @steemvoter is proudly a @buildteam subsidiary and sister project to @steemsports and @minnowbooster.
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@amanrazz ·
thats a very good step taken by you all
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@tech-trends ·
Thank you :)
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@arcange ·
Congratulations @minnowbooster!
Your post was mentioned in the [hit parade](https://steemit.com/hit-parade/@arcange/daily-hit-parade-20171015) in the following categories:

* Upvotes - Ranked 1 with 851 upvotes
* Comments - Ranked 9 with 63 comments
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@bang.rabok ·
Wow amazing post
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@blaineb ·
$0.04
I feel somewhat honored that my post was used for the tutorial. =) Thanks for the explanation, this was the first time I'd used minnowbooster and I have no complaints whatsoever! Keep up the great work and refining the system. I will be a repeat customer with service like this!
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@blessedman939 ·
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Glad you admitted there is an issue, it shows transparency.Hopefully a resolution will be reached soon.
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@bluerocktalk ·
I am still new to STEEMIT and looking to learn these upvoting details. Thanks for this post, it allowed me to see your video tutorials. Yaaay! I am into the video world too. You might like my stuff, take a look. either way, I like yours. thanks again!
~Connie🖖
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@cassillas5553 ·
Regualar on-point updates as always good JOB...
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@tech-trends ·
Yup on point and on time :)
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@cizirvizir ·
Thanks for the informations, it seems like this is transparent, but sometimes it is also possible to get the same amount of money / prizes as the original text is waiting in the inside, and if it is also true that many people are searching for excitement with making a steemite money, such problems will cause the system to be chilled. Otherwise, most people will be dissatisfied and stay away. Thank you.
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@clumsysilverdad ·
thanks for addressing the issue
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@conradt ·
Hello @minnowbooster! I have just found out about your page and im so grateful i have started to see more profits already
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@deejay81 ·
Thank you for clarification.Minnowbooster will remain our favourite voting bot.
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@tech-trends ·
Yup MinnowBooster the highly trusted bot by Minnows :)
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@dianna1 ·
Good article. Thank you for
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@fred101 ·
Has the minimum spend now gone back up to 5 sbd?  That's what the table says, just wondering if that's an error. Thanks
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@ghorardim ·
Great job bro.i resteem this post.i hope this post will be in hot list.best of luck.
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@greenrun ·
We love minnowbooster and any project minnows, this is one of the few good bots. Maybe because I am a minnow, I just love me any good project for minnow :)
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@gringo211985 ·
@minnowbooster I have sent SBD and not received any upvote, I didn't see this post till now, can I get a refund or an upvote please? The URL in memo is https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@gringo211985/200-follower-milestone-digital-art-to-say-thank-you-to-all-my-followers-and-a-recap-of-my-posts
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@hannah3 ·
Really very cool post and knowledgeable love it
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@hope777 ·
$1.16
Thank you for the information. I am only using @minnowbooster for "upvotes" for a week and I was more than satisfied with my returns. 
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@tech-trends ·
$0.25
We are glad to hear that :) Thank you for using MinnowBooster
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@bluerocktalk ·
I am new here. SO this is an outside option to how I am upvoting now?
~Connie🖖
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@iliasdiamantis ·
$0.30
I believe you will figure it out. You have our support.
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@irfanullah ·
I am a great fan of @minnowbooster. It gave Powerful upvote often. It also provides powers.
Thanks for your kind support.
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@jakirhossain32 · (edited)
do you please tell me how incise my leave and why my power diereses . i am so warred about it please help me .
http://cceffect.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/AskingForHelp.jpg 
https://steemit.com/@jakirhossain32/
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@jessek ·
great post keep going and thx for the info
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@jonathanxvi ·
$0.07
Thank you for clarification :)
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@jonbee ·
nice post ..
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@jvalentine ·
It's good that you clarified this but i never notice what I get from voting. My joy is finding new things (or people)to vote for and old ones (people) I liked before. You are obviously addressing investors here but I am in a way just that, the more I earn for myself and others, the better Steemit becomes.  They should start reading Steemit as a community and make it grow by communicating with others. They'd learn a lot. JV
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@kaleem345 ·
Dear sir, check my friend problem 
>photomania (44)  ·  4 hours ago
I paid $5.004 but minnowbooster upvote me only $1.37,pls check matter detail here

stealthgoat (-1) · 3 hours ago
@photomania payed 5.004 SBD to @minnowbooster to buy a stealth upvote.
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@kalita27 ·
Thank you for clarification.
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@kayyam09 ·
Check my profile for free Upvotes ♡
Upvote 5 of my latest posts and i'll Upvote 5 of yours.
Once you've Upvoted, comment UPVOTED on any post and i'll Upvoted back..
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@kayyam09 ·
Check my profile for free Upvotes ♡
Upvote 5 of my latest posts and i'll Upvote 5 of yours.
Once you've Upvoted, comment UPVOTED on any post and i'll Upvote back..
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@knowledges ·
More grease to your elbow @minnowbooster ,,,,,
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@ktbozdag ·
I guess it would be good to try this service.
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@liaquatkhan ·
Hi. Really nice to read about you.Best of luck on steemit. I have followed you and now you can follow me too. Do check out my page. It's good.
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@lucylin ·
hi there - my post was not upvoted - 3 hours ago - can you sort it out, please? cheers
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@nahang ·
$2.29
My post was not upvoted. Please check.
@nahang/crispr-technique-for-gene-modification
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@aftabkhan10 ·
This is what I have been noticing for many days, Earnings on your post goes down and down, it is not only the case with @minnowbooster, it is happening in general. But yeah still people receive a heavy Upvote than their investments from @minnowbooster.
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@sanamamq ·
Yes you are right... I can also clearly see how less the earning amount is getting less in 7 days, and finally getting less payout...
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@nahang ·
$0.26
Thank you, @minnowbooster -- problem solved.
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@reggaemuffin ·
Our customer service is always there to help you :)
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@tech-trends ·
$0.25
Please contact us in our discord channel https://discord.gg/S37bYma
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@zaaalim ·
vote me

https://steemit.com/animal/@zaaalim/animals-love-to-sweet-girls-amazing-pictures-must-see
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@libertyteeth ·
Looks like you got a vote, but perhaps not the one you were looking for.

To be clear, your above behavior is discouraged on this platform.  Make good content; don't beg.  I've seen your comments on several of @minnowbooster's posts.  Anybody can see all of your comments, by going here: https://steemit.com/@zaaalim/comments

This is a transparent platform.  Govern yourself accordingly.
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@nehomar ·
You could just not add any amount in the goat image, or even don't add any image at all.
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@omarfarukjafree ·
wow good news
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@padmakshi ·
My post was not upvoted. I Transfer 5.000 SBD to minnowbooster	but i Receive 0.052 SBD from minnowbooster please check 
https://steemit.com/blog/@padmakshi/this-is-the-10-insane-facts-about-scientology
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@positivesteem ·
I hope that the daily limit of 5sbd and weekly limit of 15sbd can be increased soon as I feel that this limit is too low.
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@randymarktorres ·
thank you
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@rijalmahyud ·
$0.03
Thank the support @minnowbooster
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@rocketsteem ·
Thanks for the heads up and the explanation!
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@royboy ·
Great solution👌
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@ruah · (edited)
$0.06
thanks that you made a fast act about this problem :) we will continue to support this very helpfull booster @minnowbooster thanks sir @reggaemuffin

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@cleverbot ·
<p>What is your favourite song?</p>
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@drotto ·
<p>This comment has received a 0.63 % upvote from @drotto thanks to: @banjo.</p>
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@tech-trends ·
We love your support to us ... Thank you :)
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@screenname ·
Re: Minnowbooster: Wrong Vote Values - The Problem and the Upcoming Solution
<p>This post has been ranked within the top 10 most undervalued posts in the first half of Oct 15. We estimate that this post is undervalued by $84.89 as compared to a scenario in which every voter had an equal say.</p> 
<p>See the full rankings and details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-oct-15---part-i">The Daily Tribune: Oct 15 - Part I</a>. You can also read about some of our methodology, data analysis and technical details in <a href="https://steemit.com/curation/@screenname/introducing-the-daily-tribune-most-undervalued-posts-of-nov-04---part-i">our initial post</a>.</p>
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@shakilbd ·
Nice Post you talk about upvote problem. Thank you disscus for steemut upvote problem...
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@shawki ·
Hi all, look for a robot in the field of 0.2 and 1 sbd
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@silvergoldman ·
You might want to watch the video I'll be uploading so because there's a lot more wrong with this place than the voting or perhaps you guys are clueless but I'm not, stay tuned
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@tahsin ·
nice post...even your all post just awsome.. I think you will be a famous steemer....
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@thecryptotrader ·
Hope you will fix it soon, cause with 25% goes to curation, the reward is almost always less of what we pay.. thanks.
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@eturnerx ·
Upvote right after you post and the author keeps most of the curation rewards.
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@uxair ·
$0.03
I was waiting for this updated post from last few days.
Hope to see some positive solution to it.
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@drotto ·
<p>This comment has received a 2.09 % upvote from @drotto thanks to: @uxair.</p>
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@tech-trends ·
Your wait is over and we have came up with a solution :)
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@valikos ·
$0.09
Thank you for your perfectionism :)
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@valorforfreedom · (edited)
$5.41
I had a problem with the upvote function 3-4 hours ago and then I joined the Discord server to ask for help. They helped me to fix my problem in the timespan of 30 minutes and I got a full refund.

https://media.giphy.com/media/xUA7bd4fc8NDP3Sh5C/giphy.gif

(I will now start using Minnowbooster like a madman)
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@tech-trends ·
Hey , Thank you for choosing Minnowbooster :)
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@valorforfreedom · (edited)
Thank you too for helping me!
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@wise-old-man ·
RE: Minnowbooster: Wrong Vote Values - The Problem and the Upcoming Solution
_**It is more agreeable to have the power to give than to receive.**_

 \- Winston Churchill
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@xplosive ·
If I check how many Steemians upvoted a post (for example this post), I don't see the voting percentages and the voting values beside the names.
Is that okay?
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@tech-trends ·
I think you are not using this [plugin](https://steemit.com/steemdev/@armandocat/steemit-more-info-1-3-chrome-extension-firefox-extension)
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@xplosive ·
Yes, that's true. I didn't use that plugin, because I didn't know about it. Thanks for the info!
Enjoy Steemit!
Have a nice day and have a nice weekend!
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