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Reddit Moves Into Crypto - What it Means for Hive(My thoughts) by mistakili

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Reddit Moves Into Crypto - What it Means for Hive(My thoughts)
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[Source](https://medium.com/@adamscochran/reddit-jumps-into-loot-tokens-with-new-cryptocurrency-on-ethereum-3109a4b1eae4)

# Reddit Moves Into Crypto 

Hello guys, I woke up to read a post on Medium about Reddit getting into Cryptocurrency and I thought we should look at it together and what it means for "an already established" cryptocurrency ecosystem like Hive. I will be extracting snippets from the post and pasting it here in block quotes with my opinions beneath them. 

Firstly, I will like to point out the fact that Reddit boasts of having close to 20million users that visit the cryptocurrency sub-reddit everyday, this is meant to be a big deal, considering that those 20 million users will be exposed to this new system and become  potential adopters, that's more than the numbers of people who own an Ethereum wallet. 

What does this mean for Reddit, Reddit users and Crypto in general? Let's delve in further. 

>Reddit launched two new types of loot token (a token on the Ethereum blockchain that is earnable within a community rather than purchased) in their /r/Cryptocurrency and /r/FortniteBR subreddits, and in turn signaled their plan to pivot the company’s monetization more towards crypto.

I think this is really cool and big ups to Reddit company as it aims to onboard more people into crypto. Its about time big social media companies start to embrace the use of cryptocurrency in monetization, other players like Facebook with similar intentions have been long stifled by the U.S government based on regulatory reasons such that the project is yet to see the light of day. 

Let's check out the Reddit plan 
>Reddit will distribute these tokens initially based on Reddit Karma to represent compensation for the value that users have contributed to the community overtime.
Reddit itself will keep a portion of the tokens in each subreddit, and award a small portion to the community moderators for managing the subreddit.
On the launch day there will be an initial distribution of 50M tokens covering previous activity in the subreddit, and then the remaining tokens will be distributed month over month diminishing with each monthly distribution until it hits its cap of 250M tokens for each individual subreddit.

Well, I've never really used Reddit, and don't own any Karma so, I guess people like us are exempted from initial distribution, but ofcourse. 

Now to the interesting part. 

### What can I do with these loot token?
>By definition the Community Points Program issues a type of loot token on the Ethereum blockchain, which means you can both earn it in the community, and redeem it in the community.
In the case of Reddit, you’ll be able to use these tokens to tip other users, buy badges and awards, take part in weighted polls, or buy a special membership to each subreddit (that gives you a colored user name, specialty loyalty badges, and the ability to embed gif replies in your comments.)

Use case, Use case, Use case! This is the most important aspect of any cryptocurrency next to its distribution model. The more useful a cryptocurrency, the better the economy of that crypto ecosystem. In the case of Reddit, the crypto exist to be used to
- Tip members - πŸ˜€
- Buy badges - 😊
- Buy awards - (buy awards?)πŸ€”
- Vote - πŸ™‚
- Buy loyalty badges -πŸ€”
- Gives ability to embed GIF in comments - 🀐(Is that a joke?)

If I were a Reddit shill, I would have said this was awesome, but I'm not and this doesn't seem awesome to me, don't get me wrong, these use cases are mostly burn techniques to reduce the amount of token in circulation which makes sense, but is it enough? If I'm not going to be Tipping no one or need to buy the a badge or an "award" that is nothing more than it is, then I totally will not be buying it, but maybe you would, and other people too, maybe.

However if I earn it, I'd be happy to change it for some cash or other crypto.(thought's of an average random user) Ultimately, the most valuable reason to hold the token is for speculation, based on reduction in supply  of the tokens and future potential demand. 

### What do you think? 

*I'm comparing Hive to Reddit based on the understanding that ~~Steemit~~ Hive was initially modelled after Reddit.*

I think this is cool, for the fact that it exposes  close to 20 million users to crypto, my hope is that most of these users are totally new to crypto and will look out for other alternatives as time goes on. 

On the other hand, Reddits token model is presently based on Ethereum blockchain which means transactions will likely involve payment of gas fees, thanks to blockchains like Hive, I hate gas fees! Any sort of fees in general. Hive has proven to be able to handle more thorough TPs than Ethereum.

It would have made a lot more sense for Reddit to apply Hive SMT's technology to its model but SMT's are still not ready. Did Hive just loose potentially 20 million users from Reddit? I think so, but this is not the end. What Hive offers extensively surpasses what Reddit is presently offering its users in terms of token economics and technology in general, censorship is still going to be a problem on centralised platforms like Reddit, Hive is laying a practical foundation for full decentralized ecosystem, well good things take time right?

Perhaps its all too early to judge but given the chance to choose which to hodl more, I will rather hold Hive tokens for its myriad of benefits than hold Reddit tokens, all the same, the crypto world is about to get about 20 million potential users, I guess thats cool stuff. 

Cheers. 

Thanks for reading

[Source of News](https://medium.com/@adamscochran/reddit-jumps-into-loot-tokens-with-new-cryptocurrency-on-ethereum-3109a4b1eae4)


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@amahovac93 ·
Nice more and more users will turn to Hive ;)
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@mistakili ·
That is the idea
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@bosman ·
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It seems that Hive is getting a hard competitor. When they make crypto available to all of their users that will be huge and I am afraid that Hive will have to offer something more than just a community where you can earn crypto.
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@mistakili · (edited)
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Yeah it will be huge, but what will the token be worth? I think it goes beyond only earning crypto, how about the value of the token and use? Thats my concern, maybe when they come up with some interesting use case for the token more than what it presently is, then it'll be a competition, jeez what am I even saying, it can't ever be.

I think they still have a long way to go in terms of being a competition, but in terms of user base, they've literally kicked Hive to the curbs.....20 million potential users. Whaaaaat???! Lol...kidding.


Thanks for your comment.
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@cardboard ·
Good, maybe finally Hive will learn how to monetize the platform and give real value to the token :D
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@mistakili · (edited)
![Screenshot_20200429-081831.png](https://images.hive.blog/DQmRq29amqMBLjSLYGTRqFopB5KCMetMHGok1skYNps8GBK/Screenshot_20200429-081831.png)

All im saying.....


https://hive.blog/hive-139531/@rok-sivante/hive-defi-how-to-strengthen-our-ecosystem-and-drive-up-price

https://peakd.com/hbd/@edicted/stabilizing-hbd

https://peakd.com/hivedev/@edicted/more-on-stabilizing-hbd-sbd

Cheers
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@culgin ·
Hi there! I also made a [post on this](https://peakd.com/hive-175254/@culgin/this-new-feature-on-reddit-is-challenging-the-relevance-of-hive), I guess great minds think alike? Haha..

Reddit is platform trying to bootstrap a cryptocurrency with their existing user base, while Hive/Steem are trying to bootstrap a user base with their cryptocurrencies. Who will be the winner in the end? I think it is hard to say. 
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@mistakili ·
>Reddit is platform trying to bootstrap a cryptocurrency with their existing user base, while Hive/Steem are trying to bootstrap a user base with their cryptocurrencies. 

Very true and interesting way of looking at both scenarios, it would have been merry if both platforms could handshake. 

Im going ahead to check your post out now, thanks for your comment.
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@dmilliz · (edited)
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I think it will be appealing to those who love reddit.  Never did get in to it. It is also a good wake up call that hive needs more places to use tokens, they need more shops , everyone is building DApps and more dapps but I don’t see much places to spend the tokens in an e-commerce style. So many tings could be sold. Posts could have a β€œbuy it now” button on peakd Communities could have a shop section with goods available in the communities tokens.  ( of course most goods would be digital. 


Ps: bro , I got a new old phone:) paid $100 for an iPhone 8 Plus, 256 Gb from a friend whose a phone hopper. The thing is basically like new. No 2 year phone loan  for me πŸ‘Œ
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@gradeon ·
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>It is also a good wake up call that hive needs more places to use tokens, they need more shops , everyone is building DApps and more dapps but I don’t see much places to spend the tokens in an e-commerce style. So many tings could be sold.

Imagine being able to buy precious metals with HIVE on a DApp. That would definitely boost our value.
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@dmilliz ·
Now that would be something special. 
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@mistakili · (edited)
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Never really got into it too. 

>It is also a good wake up call that hive needs more places to use tokens, they need more shops , everyone is building DApps and more dapps but I don’t see much places to spend the tokens in an e-commerce style. 

I agree with this 100%, one post I came about recently emphasised on the development of more De-Fi use cases. If people could obtain loan with their holdings as collateral and pay back with interest, the interest can be burned or used to further generate value, that is one way to capture value within the blockchain and I really don't know why is not being more discussed.
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@dmilliz ·
Very true, loan business is big business.  I wonder if neoxian is still doing their loan thing?

ThΓ© focus really needs to switch to Β«how can we spend /use the tokensΒ Β» that way less people would sell and start using. 
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@mistakili ·
Whaaaaaatttttt dayummm ......that's such a cool deal,!!!!!!!!!!I'm screaminnnnnnggg right now!
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@dmilliz ·
Lol! I’m tempted to sell it online for $400 but I’m gonna rock it for sa bit. 
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@gradeon ·
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Reddit is crap. In response to their censorship policies, Voat was created, however that devolved into an alt right cringe festival. The only alternative for me is Hive.
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@mistakili ·
>was created, however that devolved into an alt right cringe festival

Lol I never even got to hear avout this...

The best alternative right!
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@hivebuzz ·
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@mistakili ·
Yipeee!
πŸ‘  
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@hivebuzz ·
Awesome @mistakili! Great to see you engaging with the community!
Β‘Te agradecerΓ­amos mucho que votaras por nuestra [propuesta en Peakd.com](https://peakd.com/me/proposals/109) para que podamos seguir con el buen trabajo!
un abrazo,
liz del equipo hivebuzz<div class="pull-right"><a href="/@hive.engage">![](https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png)</a></div>
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@hodlcommunity ·
Upvoted and Resteemed to the community.
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@mistakili ·
Thanks..
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@joetunex ·
$0.04
I like the exposure to cryptocurency it will have on people because people are still stuck up in the fiat way on currency. 
Ultimately we will see Reddit users spread over other decentralized crypto platforms like Hive. 
We are slowly moving towards adoption.
πŸ‘  ,
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@mistakili ·
>I like the exposure to cryptocurency it will have on people because people are still stuck up in the fiat way on currency

It is actually exciting to think about, this is where we need to be even more out there so people can know and spill over here.
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@lionsuit ·
Agreed. 20 million potential new crypto users.
This seems much bigger than many people seem to think. Very curious to see how it goes.
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@mistakili · (edited)
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@mistakili ·
Let me guess

- more people will know about Ethereum and have a wallet and live inside Ethereum...

- censorship will begin in one form or the other just because it can, its already inside they're infrastructure...

- people will start getting angry like on youtube and shouting on twitter

- we will be there telling them stuff like that dont happen on hive. 

Thank you and you are welcome lol
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@maxwellmarcusart ·
It's nice majority of those 20 million users will be getting acquainted with crypto for the first time and if Reddit doesnt make thing better on the long run - like getting their own coin listed and not attaching to Ethereum - some of those users will look for something better.
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@mistakili · (edited)
Reddit already has one standard caveat to it, centralization, before anything else. 
 
How long do you think it will take before censorship begins there and people begin to cry again like they've been crying all over youtube? 

Yes they claim your money will be untouchable, thanks to Ethereum but what about your data, or profile, or anything of yours on the centralized platform the truth is they can, whether they will or not yet to be known! 

So in a matter of what the world needs, Hive is right there, a full decentralized economy.
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@mistakili ·
https://twitter.com/Mistakili/status/1257647199732871168?s=19

#posh
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@prechyrukky ·
Okay. I love the move made by reddit, it will serve as a good meduim to introduce more individuals into Crypto

On the hand that's some competition for hive. I am on reddit but I am rarely there, I put my faith in hive because I love how the system runs, I hope others will be able to see what I am seeing in hive too
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@mistakili ·
>Okay. I love the move made by reddit, it will serve as a good medium to introduce more individuals into Crypto

No doubt about that.

>I put my faith in hive because I love how the system runs, I hope others will be able to see what I am seeing in hive too

The community is willing to build, it excites me,..i do hope so too. 

Cheers...
πŸ‘  
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@ptaku ·
@tipu curate
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@mistakili ·
Thank you mate
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@tipu ·
<a href="https://tipu.online/hive_curator?ptaku" target="_blank">Upvoted  &#128076;</a> (Mana: 15/20)
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@vlemon ·
Hello @mistakili,

I believe this is a great news for the entire crypto space as Reddit as so much impact in the devleoper/ internet world.

This "gamification" of a social platform like Reddit is a start and might not have great value to start with but it will get their users accustomed to Cryptos, etc... 

And you know when you start into this path, well... You have so much to learn right ?πŸ˜ƒ

Always very nice to read your posts

Sincerely,

@vlemon
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@mistakili · (edited)
>This "gamification" of a social platform like Reddit is a start and might not have great value to start with but it will get their users accustomed to Cryptos, etc...

Totally true I have to admit that. 

>And you know when you start into this path, well... You have so much to learn right ?πŸ˜ƒ

Yessss πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ the black hole and never wanting to go back to not knowing. 

Thank you for your support....I appreciate!
πŸ‘  
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@vlemon ·
You are more than welcome ! 

You should join us on Discord https://discord.gg/VdZxZwn

😜
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