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Should I save only via crypto assets? by momogrow

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· @momogrow · (edited)
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Should I save only via crypto assets?
The banking system in the Netherlands is very efficient. I remember marveling at the system compared to many other westernized countries, some years ago. The system has even improved over time as well. It has entered the age of mobile and digital banking. The bigger retail banks like ING and ABN Amro bank etc. but there are newer banks such as Revolut and Bunq offer internet banking. In addition, there are mobile apps where payments and transfers can be made in a matter of seconds using the phone.

In supermarkets and shops contactless payments with mobile phones are made quickly and smoothly. There are no issues at all. The use of bank notes is nearing its end. The country is almost cashless. One could argue whether that is a good or bad thing. However, this is the reality. The populous has embraced mobile and digital banking because it is convenient, fast and easy to use.

From what I have outlined the banking system here seems ideal and very efficient so what is the difference with crypto? Why would anyone want to convert their cash into crypto and save their funds via digital assets?

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**Government regulations**
The first major reason would be decentralisation - no centralised body as overlords. Money in a bank fall under government regulations and oversight. If the government/banks do not like our behaviour our account can be blocked. This is demonstrated very frequently worldwide. For instance the truckers in Canada
*Crypto*
With crypto in one’s wallet the holder has their own bank.

**Liquidity**
WIthdrawal of large amounts from one’s own bank account is not possible on demand. Sometimes there is a wait of a few days.
*Crypto*
This is not the case - one’s funds are available 24/7.

**Monitoring/Accessibility**
If there is a transaction over Euros 10K then the bank will have questions. If this occurred over the weekend or on holiday then the transaction must be stopped to await clarification during regular opening hours. From ATM one can withdraw up to euros 5k but in reality it is not easy to get  euros $1000. In addition, transactions over euros 100 were being monitored by the bank for money laundering (the minimum might have changed in the interim)
*Crypto*
Transfers are unlimited - it'sbased on your balance and can access it 24 hrs 7 days per week. You are indeed your own bank!

**Financial inclusion**
Bank personnel will decide who can and cannot open a bank account etc. 
*Crypto*
Anyone can have a crypto wallet - banked and unbanked.

**Bail-ins**
In simple terms, our savings in banks are actual loans to the bank (read the fine print). As a result, they are allowed to lend out depositors funds and receive interest. If the bank runs into financial difficulties they can also default on the loan to us (of our own funds). We gave them our funds and only return a portion of our funds. This is called bail-in. Of course there migh be a government insurance which refunds part of our funds but it depends on the amount one has saved.
*Crypto*
I will repeat - we are our own masters and bank managers.

**Security**
A bank can be hacked but crypto can be hacked as well. 
*Crypto*
Private wallets are less proned to being hacked unless one gives away or carelessly store one's keys.

**Bank fees**
Bank fees can be large for some cross border transactions. 
*Crypto*
Arguably selecting the wrong blockchain platform to transfer funds can lead to large fees as well but there are options.

**Rewards**
Interest on savings in a bank account can be up to 0- 4% annually. It is not very attractive. 
*Crypto*
The interest earned, on this platform, for HBD is saved is 20% APR currently. That is a very large return. 
Additionally, some cryptos can  “moon”  and the rewards are astronomical compared to banks. However it is not guaranteed.

**Are there any cons?**
It would appear that the positives outweigh the negatives for putting ones saving in cryptocurrencies. However, as there is not yet mass adoption - cryptocurrency values fluctuate a lot more than one would desire. At the moment, crypto investment is still extremely risky. However, with crypto there can be large rewards much larger than bank interest earn. Unfortunately there can also be large losses. 

In addition, as crypto is not legal tender - it is not accepted everywhere. As a result, exchanging crypto for fiat currency is still necessary for most purchases. As governments/banks could prevent conversion to fiat, having all one’s funds in crypto could prove problematic - then liquidity could become an issue. 

I do not have all my savings in crypto currency because until crypto operates with a legal or financially regulated framework - it would be extremely risky. I know this is what we wished to escape from but we cannot escape the inevitable. Since learning how banks leverage our funds and can bail-in - I feel as though I am between "a rock and a hard place". That is not comforting at all. We have seen people defrauded of their crypto funds in the past year via failed cryptocurrency/exchanges - the largest recently being FTX and Terra Luna.  One can spread the risk by diversifying - having funds in crypto assets, real estate, precious metals, stocks and fiat. With all the uncertainty, it might be best to remain diversified thus spreading the risk.

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@ekavieka ·
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I think at the moment we should use both crypto and the conventional banking system
crypto is not widely accepted yet, in case you want to use the money you save, that can be a hindrance at some point.
I guess the term don't store your egg in one basket is still applicable in this case, choosing the place for you to save the money
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@momogrow ·
I totally agree with you. Best to spread those eggs over a few basket just in case an eagle comes it does not attack one basket and take it all. 😆 
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@ekavieka ·
the eagle these days are so aggressive. hahah
stay safe always my friend
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@momogrow ·
Thaks for the pizza and the LuV
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@fredaa ·
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Thank you for the enlightenment. I never knew some of these features you brought up.
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@momogrow ·
Aww @fredaa  This type of feedback is very encouraging. Many thanks. I am happy tha my post is helpful.
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@fredaa ·
You're welcome, it was indeed helpful.
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@malos10 ·
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You make some great points about the pros and cons of using crypto vs. traditional banking.

One of the biggest advantages of crypto is that it is decentralized, meaning that it is not subject to government control or regulation. This can be a major advantage for people who live in countries with unstable economies or governments that are hostile to financial freedom.

Another advantage of crypto is that it is more secure than traditional banking. This is because crypto transactions are encrypted and cannot be tampered with. Additionally, crypto wallets can be stored offline, making them even more secure.
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@momogrow ·
Thank you - your additional points are great as well. In unstable economies crypto is a great advantage. To be able to earn crypto or store funds in crypto like USDC helps to keep the value of unstable fiat. Here in Europe though it is not really the case. 
Indeed crypto wallets stored offline are safer too.
I am still waiting and hoping for mass adoption to stabilised some cryptocurrencies and for some with real world use cases to be recognised.
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@pizzabot ·
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@shawnnft ·
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O.O great breakdown of all the differences. :D i still feel better to have money in crypto despite not being accepted everywhere. I think there will be a time it will get widely accepted and being one of the people that accepted earlier will be a benefit to us :D
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@momogrow ·
I agree with you - in the long run it be worthwhile being an early adopter. However, right now I still think it is best to diversify and to only put funds in crypto that I can afford to lose. Of course it depends on the cryptocurrency as well.
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@shawnnft ·
I see. totally understand. I'm ok with all in on crypto almost hehe cause i still dont have too many commitments at the moment
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@momogrow ·
Thanks for your support
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