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Steem Voting weight % is not that linear as we may think
<center>![image.png](https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRDZKgHM5LRJV3RQC9NWFZG9hcndmf1H2hJmHZJPhqsCf)</center>

<center>`TLDR; 10% upvote is only 9x stronger than 1% upvote (in my case)`</center>

# Linear Rewards Curve

Since the 0.19 hardfork released last year, Steemian's vote impact have changed in favor of minnows. [Linear Rewards Curve #1051](https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/1051) changed rewards curve to be `n` from `n^2`. In short: before, stakers with 2x more Steem Power than others had 4x stronger vote. In HF19 this changed to be equally **linear**.

<center>![image.png](https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmfB2fkkkJWC6UpbVA3aWHtTLYwUimci8BfBo5cR939Czt)</center>

<center>*This is how people think it is*</center>

Linear reward curve makes people voting strength directly proportional to their stake.

# The devil is in the details :>

Steem Voting weight % is linear indeed. Linear enough that anybody who uses voting slider in **integers** won't even notice it's irregularity.

I have been studying Steem Voting and Curation mechanics for weeks. My conclusion is the most efficient way to luqidate Steem Power with best gains is to *spread votes as wide as it is possible*. This is my curation game I am playing for some time. I have started voting to small % upvotes, even fractions. I call these a "tip" for author's work. 
Imagine my surprise when during backtests I discovered that **my 0,2% upvote is equal to 0,5% upvote** or **2,1% upvote is equal to 2,5% upvote** in rshares. These are numbers for my current holdings (~2,5k SP).

This is chart I have prepared during tests to have a better view:

<center>![image.png](https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRDZKgHM5LRJV3RQC9NWFZG9hcndmf1H2hJmHZJPhqsCf)</center>

Chart represent a sample of votes spent in range of 0,2% up to 10% of their power. At the same time, account's Voting Power loss was monitored too.
This was done via steem-python API call 
`post.upvote(weight = vote_weight, voter = 'mys')`

Gathered data:

| vote % | rshares | VP~ % |
| - | - | - |
| 0,2 | 498075654 | -0,01 |
| 0,3 | 498075654 | -0,01 |
| 0,4 | 498075654 | -0,01 |
| **0,5** | **498075654** | **-0,01** |
| 0,6 | 996151309 | -0,02 |
| 0,7 | 996151309 | -0,02 |
| 0,8 | 996151309 | -0,02 |
| 0,9 | 996151309 | -0,02 |
| **1** | **996151309** | **-0,02** |
| 1,1 | 1494226963 | -0,03 |
| 1,2 | 1494226963 | -0,03 |
| 1,3 | 1494226963 | -0,03 |
| 1,4 | 1494226963 | -0,03 |
| **1,5** | **1494226963** | **-0,03** |
| 1,6 | 1992302618 | -0,04 |
| 1,7 | 1992302618 | -0,04 |
| 1,8 | 1992302618 | -0,04 |
| 1,9 | 1992302618 | -0,04 |
| **2** | **1992302618** | **-0,04** |
| 2,1 | 2490378272 | -0,05 |
| 2,2 | 2490378272 | -0,05 |
| 2,3 | 2490378272 | -0,05 |
| 2,4 | 2490378272 | -0,05 |
| **2,5** | **2490378272** | **-0,05** |
| 2,6 | 2988453927 | -0,06 |
| 2,7 | 2988453927 | -0,06 |
| 2,8 | 2988453927 | -0,06 |
| 2,9 | 2988453927 | -0,06 |
| **3** | **2988453927** | **-0,06** |
| 3,1 | 3486529581 | -0,07 |
| 3,2 | 3486529581 | -0,07 |
| 3,3 | 3486529581 | -0,07 |
| 3,4 | 3486529581 | -0,07 |
| 3,5 | 3486529581 | -0,07 |
| **3,6** | **3486529581** | **-0,07** |
| 3,7 | 3984605236 | -0,08 |
| 3,8 | 3984605236 | -0,08 |
| 3,9 | 3984605236 | -0,08 |
| 4 | 3984605236 | -0,08 |
| **4,1** | **3984605236** | **-0,08** |
| 4,2 | 4482680891 | -0,09 |
| 4,3 | 4482680891 | -0,09 |
| 4,4 | 4482680891 | -0,09 |
| 4,5 | 4482680891 | -0,09 |
| **4,6** | **4482680891** | **-0,09** |
| 4,7 | 4980756545 | -0,1 |
| 4,8 | 4980756545 | -0,1 |
| 4,9 | 4980756545 | -0,1 |
| 5 | 4980756545 | -0,1 |
| 5,1 | 4980756545 | -0,1 |
| **5,2** | **4980756545** | **-0,1** |
| 5,3 | 5478832200 | -0,11 |
| 5,4 | 5478832200 | -0,11 |
| 5,5 | 5478832200 | -0,11 |
| 5,6 | 5478832200 | -0,11 |
| 5,7 | 5478832200 | -0,11 |
| **5,8** | **5478832200** | **-0,11** |
| 5,9 | 5976907854 | -0,12 |
| 6 | 5976907854 | -0,12 |
| 6,1 | 5976907854 | -0,12 |
| 6,2 | 5976907854 | -0,12 |
| **6,3** | **5976907854** | **-0,12** |
| 6,4 | 6474983509 | -0,13 |
| 6,5 | 6474983509 | -0,13 |
| 6,6 | 6474983509 | -0,13 |
| 6,7 | 6474983509 | -0,13 |
| 6,8 | 6474983509 | -0,13 |
| **6,9** | **6474983509** | **-0,13** |
| 7 | 6973059163 | -0,14 |
| 7,1 | 6973059163 | -0,14 |
| 7,2 | 6973059163 | -0,14 |
| 7,3 | 6973059163 | -0,14 |
| 7,4 | 6973059163 | -0,14 |
| **7,5** | **6973059163** | **-0,14** |
| 7,6 | 7471134818 | -0,15 |
| 7,7 | 7471134818 | -0,15 |
| 7,8 | 7471134818 | -0,15 |
| 7,9 | 7471134818 | -0,15 |
| 8 | 7471134818 | -0,15 |
| 8,1 | 7471134818 | -0,15 |
| **8,2** | **7471134818** | **-0,15** |
| 8,3 | 7969210473 | -0,16 |
| 8,4 | 7969210473 | -0,16 |
| 8,5 | 7969210473 | -0,16 |
| 8,6 | 7969210473 | -0,16 |
| 8,7 | 7969210473 | -0,16 |
| **8,8** | **7969210473** | **-0,16** |
| 8,9 | 8467286127 | -0,17 |
| 9 | 8467286127 | -0,17 |
| 9,1 | 8467286127 | -0,17 |
| 9,2 | 8467286127 | -0,17 |
| 9,3 | 8467286127 | -0,17 |
| 9,4 | 8467286127 | -0,17 |
| **9,5** | **8467286127** | **-0,17** |
| 9,6 | 8965361782 | -0,18 |
| 9,7 | 8965361782 | -0,18 |
| 9,8 | 8965361782 | -0,18 |
| 9,9 | 8965361782 | -0,18 |
| **10** | **8965361782** | **-0,18** |
<br>
Source code:
```python
print('vote%	rshares		VP~%')
vote_weight = 0.2
for post in s.get_discussions_by_created({'limit': 100}):
	voting_power_pre = Account('mys')['voting_power']
	try:
		Post('@' + post['author'] + '/' + post['permlink']).upvote(weight = vote_weight, voter = 'mys')
		time.sleep(3)
	except Exception as e:
		print(e)
	post_after = Post('@' + post['author'] + '/' + post['permlink'])
	for vote in post_after['active_votes']:
		if 'mys' == vote['voter']:
			rshares = vote['rshares']
	voting_power_after = Account('mys')['voting_power']
	print(str(vote_weight) + '	' + str(rshares) + '	' + str(voting_power_after-voting_power_pre))
	vote_weight = round(vote_weight + 0.1, 1)
```
<br>
This is not the end. Even 0,02% upvote is rounded up to same size as 0,5% upvote!
[0,02% = 498M rshares](https://steemd.com/crypto-news/@famar/btc-private-for-investors-4-technical-challenges-of-bitcoin-private-airdrop-by-tai-zen-leon-fu-2018-5-15) and [0,5% = 498M rshares](https://steemd.com/bitcoin/@darkreaper90/smart-crypto-e-card-akilli-kripto-e-card)

As we see there is some quantization in values for small ranges. Good that Voting Power loss decreases as the same function, so there isn't any abuse flaw here. Just lack of explanation in Steem docs how the numbers are rounded up.

<center>https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2017/10/15/09/40/board-2853022_640.jpg</center>

# Some explanations

- **rshares** - each vote cast results in Reward Shares. These are voters' stake being thrown into the article's reward pot. 
The formula for calculating rshares is as follows:
`rshares = (account.vesting_shares - account.delegated_vesting_shares + account.received_vesting_shares) * account.voting_power * vote_weight / 100`

- why didn't I start voting from 0,01%? The minimum rshares that can be thrown into the pot is 50M rshares. This value is defined as [STEEMIT_VOTE_DUST_THRESHOLD](https://github.com/steemit/steem/blob/master/libraries/protocol/include/steemit/protocol/config.hpp#L107).
For my holdings, voting for 0,01% returns an error from Steem node: *"Voting weight is too small, please accumulate more voting power or steem power"*

<center>![image.png](https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXGa7BybYXMNxuuSz63Cw3fewV1U3gTNhwo1r6SZQar9g)</center>

This is also the reason why small accounts doesn't even have a slider while voting. But hardly anyone knows this can still be done via API call :)

# My summary

Most people won't even notice these small inaccuracies. Steemit.com/busy.org voting sliders values in integer range between 1-100%. Voters are not interested if their vote is 49,9% or 50,1% strength. Above charts prove that Steem Voting weight % <> rshares has linear ratio with rounded up fractions for its simplicity.

<center>https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/efficiency.png</center>

Who can benefit from this research? Voters who cast many many small votes every day. Yes, I am blinking toward bots and automatized curators ;) The formulas can be adjusted to earn more SP from curation. Steem currency is worth more and more in time. Where serious money is in the game, there comes efficiency.
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@biophil ·
Be careful with very small votes, at least if you're interested in curation rewards. Rewards are distributed in VESTS, which are very finely divisible, but they are *denominated* in STEEM, which is divisible only down to 1000ths. Quantization errors there could lose you a lot of money if your votes are too small.
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@mys ·
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Agree, people could be trapped here. The lowest reward in the system is 0.001 SP. Everything below that value is not payed out!
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@cardboard ·
Thanks for digging into this :) noticed that too with @tipU upvotes. tip! 1
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@cardboard ·
Hey @mys :) mam w艂a艣nie problem z tym zaokr膮glaniem w przypadku @tipu. Bardzo cz臋sto zaokr膮gla w g贸r臋 i zamiast 4.0 SBD upvote, user dostaje np 4.1 SBD.

Masz pomys艂 jak zeskalowac upvote w d贸艂, 偶eby nie by艂 zaokr膮glany? Czy chodzi o to, 偶e liczba rshares musi by膰 wielokrotno艣ci膮 min upvote? Np. wielokrotno艣cia 10, a jak tipu pr贸buje zrobi膰 25, to zaokr膮gla do 30?

Za wszelk膮 pomoc place twarda waluta :p
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@mys ·
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Ewidentnie jest jaka艣 warto艣膰, kt贸ra jest wielokrotno艣ci膮 i do niej s膮 zaokr膮glane upvoty. Nie wiem jednak co to jest. Mo偶e si臋 okaza膰, 偶e w pewnych przypadkach nie op艂aca si臋 mie膰 konta z du偶ym Steem Powerem, bo minimalny g艂os jest za mocny. I wtedy ma sens tworzenie kont-marionetek z mniejszym SP.
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@cardboard ·
>  I wtedy ma sens tworzenie kont-marionetek z mniejszym SP.

Ano aczkolwiek w przypadku bota, kt贸ry otrzymuje delegacje to nie zadzia艂a Ale!

Jest progress :) testowa艂em upvote'owanie z ca艂kowit膮 liczb膮 vote power (np. 3% zamiast 3,21%) i nic to nie zmienia艂o. Wtedy do mnie dosz艂o, 偶e liczba rshares zale偶y od zu偶ytego voting power, a nie od vote power g艂osu. Wi臋c teraz tak skaluje g艂osy, 偶eby zu偶ywa膰 voting power z zaokr膮gleniem w d贸艂 do setnych cz臋艣ci i pierwsze testy s膮 obiecuj膮ce :)

Dzisiaj pierwsza sesja g艂osowania z zaktualizowanym algorytmem, dam zna膰 jak posz艂o :)
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@etys ·
very good article and I discover something ( Sir Steemnova +1 ! )
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@iamstan ·
When I look at your activity on busy. It says a .5 percent vote. When you go to the actual upvote it says .1 percent upvote. Which one is true? how can there be such a big range between what you vote and what is actually voted to the post? 

![image.png](https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmQXMYfHqW7qQdFJi79qab1xHE45pqYWFkkewu8WQqgtoi)
this says you gave a 0.5% upvote
![image.png](https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmRXZL8bbi6GgNFADh3DbW1mcoM9fWGgjqfqPpPF71hrU5)
 then when you go to the post it says you gave 1% 

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@mys ·
The numbers presented in blockchain are true (0.5%), eg. at steemd.com.
I believe it is just rounding to integer numbers in busy.org interface.
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@iamstan · (edited)
ok we just tried with a low sp acct and it worked at 5% but we got the error at 1%
We will see how it turns out. You might be wasting lots of sp still.
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@indurkin ·
$0.36
Very interesting, I really must get around to playing with steem-python.  

This post is too old to "tip" you, so I upvoted a random comment with an integer value instead :)
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@jozef230 ·
Czemu nie wrzucisz tego na #polish? A steemauto? Oplaca sie ustawic glosowania powyzej 30 minuty? Czy glosujac moc膮 0.01$ i podgladajac na curations widze 0.00 czy jest to 0.008 naprzyklad kt贸rego nie wida膰? Testowa艂em tw贸j spos贸b i nie wysz艂o mi z kuracji wi臋cej. Mam 850 SP g艂osowa艂em 5% g艂osu czyli 0.01$. Wi臋c nie rozumiem do ko艅ca. Warto g艂osowa膰 na posty np.  Post- 130$ g艂osowalo juz 40 os贸b ?
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@mys ·
To jest zupe艂nie inny temat.
O kuracji na Steem mo偶e skrobn臋 jaki艣 artyku艂 po polsku w najbli偶szym czasie.
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@jozef230 ·
To na czacie rozjasnij mi czemu mi nie wyszla kuracja w zeszlym tygodniu a glosowalem taka sama sila co ty?
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@lemouth ·
Interesting. I am wondering the reason behind that... Like you I guess.

Btw, I liked your final figure. I can apply it to many many situation of my own life  ;)
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@lovenfreedom ·
Re-reading the whole thing until it sticks. And also fiddling with steempy. Thanks for the hard work on this, let's clean up this place.
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@mwfiae ·
$0.24
Why does it matter? 

As the rshares are always using the same amount of vp it doesn't matter if i vote with 0.2% or 0.5% right? It's all the same and can't be used for anything, right?
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@mys ·
Look at formula for calculating rshares:
>rshares = (account.vesting_shares - account.delegated_vesting_shares + account.received_vesting_shares) * account.voting_power * **vote_weight** / 100

0.5% upvote should give 2.5x more rshares than 0.2%
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@mwfiae ·
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Yeah butit doesn't. My question is how this can be utilized for anything or is this just a 'good to know'. 

It doesn't really change the optimal voting behaviour. Its just a bit "unexpected" for the users.
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@pibyk ·
Interesuj膮ce wyniki :-)
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@shashiprabha ·
your  research analysis  is good .Its interesting. lots of thanks for sharing .
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@somethingsubtle ·
Nice research.  Thanks for putting it together.

Its interesting to see the data and confirm some of the details around the hard fork change.
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@vimukthi ·
I had noticed the rounding up part. Thanks for offering a detailed explanation. I do spread my votes to a good extent. So I guess I've been doing fine. 

Keep writing more of these. They are very helpful.
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