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· @netuoso ·
$84.82
Thanks for the update here @ned. You have presented a lot of information that I have seen people asking for. 

I also want to say thank you for owning up to the shortcomings of the 2017 roadmap. However i am still curious on an estimated priority of the mobile app. 

If there exists some base code maybe it could be made open to see if the community wanted to develop it.  Couldn't hurt. 

As far as the predictions for the amount of business on the Steem blockchain that news is what drives me to keep pushing forward. Steem has only just begun
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@alhidayat ·
@netuoso,  I've seen accounts that do not follow the steemit rules, is there any sanction for him ? how do we step to tell him ?
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@asaduzzaman111 ·
โ˜†Thanks for the update here You have presented a lot of information that I have seen people asking for.
โ˜†If there exists some base code maybe it could be made open to see if the community wanted to develop it. Couldn't hurt.
โ˜†As far as the predictions for the amount of business on the Steem blockchain that news is what drives me to keep pushing forward. Steem has only just begun![2018-02-22_11-27-25-260.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmY4BgqZUYaxvrrTiAcmBVM6fC9Tj589KGM9cByVFSpqeZ/2018-02-22_11-27-25-260.jpg)
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@awansenja ·
I will continue to follow you. You are a great and best person in steemit and I would like to visit my account @awansenja
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@baksi ·
this is the post, here is the development of the page I like to be here in your community, feel like a small fish that does not know where to go, thank you very much for your comments, I read them and learned many things for myself useful. thanks friends
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@benedict-ik ·
Though I'm still quite new here, I'll have to say that the time taken to get your password delivered is the greatest turnoff here and has to be worked on. Asides that I'm quite excited   about joining this platform and I look forward to contributing positively to it.
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@ebargains ·
$17.29
Hi @netuoso, I thought the [eSteem](https://esteem.ws/) mobile app is already out there and being used. I personally am a bit more old fashioned and haven't really jumped onto the whole mobile bandwagon, but it sure is the way the internet use trend is going.

Are you referring to a different kind of mobile Steemit specific app?

P.S. Thank you @ned for keeping the community updated regarding the Steem milestones and roadmap ahead. We much appreciate it.

Best regards and full Steem ahead!
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@guttormf ·
eSteem is ok, but has never been working well for me. I found that once I browsed out of my feed (the ones I follow), I'd never get back....
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@steembtest · (edited)
Agreed, new app will come out soon for iOS and Android, stay tuned!
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@howtostartablog ·
I think in Steemfest 2, it was revealed that Steemit wants to have their own mobile app.
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@valth ·
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Hi, @ebargains. 

The eSteem app is created by an independent company that displays the Steem blockchain in their app. It has nothing to do with Steemit Inc. or the Steemit.com website, which is another company that also provides information from the Steem blockchain. 

It can be a bit tricky to keep in mind that Steemit does not equal Steem, but the point is that Steemit also wants to create their own Steemit mobile app. This if great for us users, because more choices is always a good thing (in my opinion). 

Best regards from @valth
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@bronevik ·
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How beautiful that we have all data in public so any team could build an app!
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@elijah-blogs ·
@netuoso I agree with your points and I definitely believe this is just the beginning of steemit and our road map to success is beginning. I believe with our two great developers. I believe in @ned and @dan and I believe with these two great minds we will definitely have the best success and I just love steemit in general and this update excites me. Even though 2017 was a rougher year 2018 is off to an amazing start thanks @ned and @dan for developing this amazing platform.

<img src="https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://img.esteem.ws/41zxccb6zw.jpg" alt="Image result for ned and dan steemit"/>![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZwU8kbZ2Hcsmfe7t9r8sihKYQXSjLPjAatLb377tYKnz/image.png)
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@ezravandi ·
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That's exactly what i wanted to say, talking about owning up to your mistakes. We look forward to a better community in 2018. I'm hoping the mobile app gets created quick enough.
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@flurgx · (edited)
$7.98
I find it VERY interesting, that @ned and @steemitblog did not loose a single word about the current bandwidth problem, new users are experiencing on this platform. A solution for this is much needed! People can not even claim their rewards sometimes ... 

In my opinion the main focus should lie on HF20 in order to improve the sign up process. We still have people who are waiting weeks for their confirmation email. And for the real good experience when starting on Steemit you may want to solve the current bandwidth problem too?!
The rest is hot air. Sorry.

I mean the communication and even the work done in summer and fall 2017 was great. I had great confidence in Steemit back then. But shortly after it became very very quiet. "Promised" and expected features  were not delivered. But as it was written above, better not promise too much within a certain time-frame, because importance of development can change. I can understand that and  Iยดm with you if you say: "we are not going to release it until we are satisfied that it meets our quality standards." Better make it right once, before you release a crappy product. 

Blessed are to those who have enough bandwidth to not only write a comment but also post it to the blockchain. Thatยดs real UE!
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@bit.coin ·
I just want to say that registration problems are so damn disappointing, waiting a long time
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@bronevik ·
$2.43
Absolutely agree!
Account creation and bandwidth are 2 pain in the ass problems for new steemians.
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@dizzyjay ·
$0.30
Ive already come to terms with the fact that i cant do anythingon steem between 4 am and noon because i literally can only stare atthe recharge bar on steemd and wait. But new users may not understand or be as patient as i am.
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@flurgx ·
Patience is the key! 
If you would have been from #deutsch Community I or someone else would have delegated some sp to you. Maybe there someone out there who does it for Canadians ๐Ÿ˜€
And of course you shouldn't power down all the way.. 
Good luck ๐Ÿ‘Œ
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@ebargains ·
$16.07
Yeah, the Steem on-boarding and account creation process has to be revamped and improved. Waiting a week to get a confirmation e-mail to create an account is really archaic and hurts Steem's image as a modern blockchain based social media (and more) platform.
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@bit.coin ·
I just want to say that the registration question is too disappointing. Waiting for a long time, so I support changing the registration process.
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@bitcointip ·
It's truly amazing how great the transparency system is on Steemit and how it makes the whole platform more win-win. Since it creates more real trust. And as you say people are incentivized to behave well since they have a reputation score they want to keep up! This creates way less spam and creates an overall better user experience. We have so much free time these days and taking 10 minutes to care about someone else by producing some value to them will be so rewarding for both sides! I want to see Steemit be the best company in the world when it comes to transparency and communication!
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@flurgx ·
$0.61
Nice voting trail :D
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@kph ·
Yeah especially if it wants to compete with other social media sites. To attract more people it needs to be easy to join.
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@eco-alex ·
$0.06
Just a small investment of SP will increase your bandwidth enough to comment and post all day long! Actually I thought that was intentional to encourage people to buy in.. Great idea in my opinion!
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@flurgx · (edited)
That could be one way of seeing it. But Iยดm a friend of non-capitalistic structures. In capitalism you can only participate if you have a budget. 
A small investment of how many SP do you think is enough? 20-25? Thatยดs currently 80-100$ .. for some this is not a small investment at all .. And actually I think you need at least 40-50 SP
However I think Steemit should be accessible for everyone all the time .. and yes it is, partly ... It should be fully, all the time imo, without barrier called bandwidth .. Do you want people to stay on this platform because they have a good experience or to invest a little bit of money in order to participate? ...  Theyยดll invest eventually if they have a good experience imo ..
I luckily had a very good experience from the beginning :) thatยดs why iยดm here and thatยดs why i invested
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@steembtest · (edited)
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@truce ·
$0.15
exactly, tell them to invest like i did.
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@evyxxx ·
$0.08
Hey flurgx, 

First thank you Ned and Team.

1. Nice point about difficulties in sign process... I know some people they are waiting more than 12 days now... Perhaps you just have to be a bit patient. We got used to things going quickly, but building something big is taking some undefined time.

2. About bandwidth... My thought is maybe they are doing it for a reason - limited bandwidth - to avoid to fall while success is coming fast. Sometimes retaining the development is a good thing too. I am pretty sure they will improve this. 

They might not tell that they are not going to release before quality standards matches... They just might not know when their baby will make its own first step... Every day they are learning, as I learn too using Steemit.

3. I didn't read all comments yet but my idea is about SERVICES on Steemit. Maybe someone else will discuss this topic... 

4. How can we organize all covered topics in comments?

@ned - do you have an algorithm to classify information? I think something like "Building blocks" strategy to get the most of all these comments will be useful. We used this classification in the company where I was an intern during my GAP year.  There I also discovered this book. 

![41SXHdBJ-+L._SX310_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg](https://steemitimages.com/DQmQYKBN1E1NrG1AY52xNDGdAZcT3JpqRkxR8uFebF2hQPN/41SXHdBJ-%2BL._SX310_BO1%2C204%2C203%2C200_.jpg)

I have an electronic version of this book, but due to copyright, I can't share it here on Steemit... Would be great if I could sell it here and a part of the price would be in the author reward pool. 

Will continue to read other comments. The night is gonna be long... :)
Thank's for reading me ;)
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@indigoocean · (edited)
I'm pretty new on here, so not 100% clear on the issue with bandwidth. From what I can ascertain reading your comment and others in this thread, it sounds like if you just start with the 15 SP that's delegated when you first create an account, you somehow run out of enough SP to participate on the platform at some point. Is that correct?

I've not even been on here 2 weeks yet, and I actually did add $100 of STEEM that I powered up within just a few days of joining, so perhaps I would have encountered this problem had I not done that. As it is, I see on steemworld that I have about 75% of my voting power available right now, not really having done much upvoting today (a couple articles and maybe 3 comments). It says I'll be at 100% voting power in another 30 hours. I assume that means if I don't upvote anything else.

When I do upvote these last few days, I see that I either add .01 to someone or the vote counts but the amount given to them doesn't change at all. If I keep upvoting while my % voting power is low, will I eventually not be able to even post? 

I'm sure this sounds like a very novice question, but yeah, total novice here. I have been reinvesting all my earnings in steem power in addition to the $100 I initially put in, but I'm wondering if I'll still run into problems before long. It's already a drag seeing a notice that I need to wait as much as 50 hours before I have my full SP again. I'm also wondering for some folks I'm planning to introduce to Steemit soon, who I doubt will be able to afford to invest anything in STEEM to get started, only reinvest earnings. 

Does the amount of delegated SP at the start of an account not really set someone up to be able to stay on the platform if they never buy STEEM, only reinvest earnings by powering up? Is it just a matter of upvoting less often within a given day? Thanks in advance if you can take the time to answer this.
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@liberosist · (edited)
$0.02
The "current bandwidth problem" is up to witnesses, not Steemit Inc. Witnesses can publish a higher block size to alleviate the issue at any time. For it's part, Steemit Inc. is doing its best to delegate SP to users running out of bandwidth.

Besides, as others point out, the solution is simple - power up some SP. Of course, it's a very poor experience for new users.
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@meez ·
Go4 #MoreThanJustIT ?
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@sunlit7 ·
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This is why I filed with my state's attorney generals office to have them look into it.  I made that decision after myself being thrown off line with a bandwidth problem and looking the issue over.  What I found were people taking anywhere from powering up fifty bucks worth to get five minutes of bandwidth to people taking hundreds and waiting hours still to get back online.  There is absolutely no other issue more pressing then fixing this one because you can't sell a product that you can't deliver, that about as realistic as it gets.  I've read blog after blog of promised fixes going back for quite a while yet nothing gets done.  They claim it's to control spam but spam isn't being controlled.  Then they say it's a virus.  Who knows what the problem really is but the bigger problem facing them is that you have to state to people right up front of any business venture what the price is going to be to engage, how much money gets you what amount of steam and then the bigger question to me is why do I even have to give up my steam to stay on the platform...why can't that be my accumulated power I earned by being on the platform to do with what I want to do with it.  Yesterday I was out of bandwidth when I got on and today to so my next blog was going to be about people writing their attorney generals because short of that I don't see any other way this is going to get solved.  It's just basic simple rational thought that you cannot sell a product that you cannot deliver, and you cannot sell a product blindside....you get this much product for this price and that has to also be known upfront.  This is a great idea they have but it doesn't allow them to break the law(s).  You make money by posting and responding but if you can't respond well....?
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@ecoinstant ·
$0.18
Power up the steem you got 10 days ago from the SWC!  Listen, you might complain, but it is how it is.  Power up your winnings until you don't have any more bandwidth problem.  You literally have to *earn* your space in these blocks ;p
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@jrcrypto ·
I was hoping for that too, to help speed up the proccess. I want the mobile app out ASAP! I still love steemit! They answered almost all my questions. A+ to Steemit. 

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@littleboy ·
$0.62
What do you think will happen when @dan makes a competitor of steem on the eos blockchain?
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@andrarchy ·
$0.18
We welcome competition in the space. We're lonely :(  ;)
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@topealabi ·
Nice!
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@bronevik · (edited)
$2.79
It took years from fanboy dreams to real product serving real-life uses.
We will see.

For now one shouldn't compete with someone promises. Promises are too cheap compared with real product.
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