Exactly one week ago I posted an article entitled [“Share Trading Versus Gold Panning: Where Effort Produces Value”](https://steemit.com/teamaustralia/@nolnocluap/share-trading-versus-gold-panning-where-effort-produces-value). The piece related to the inherent value in the effort required to mine gold. Mining is a large scale, long term endeavour requiring allocation of capital and the adoption of financial and political risk to be at all viable. Consequently, mining is a process that cannot be significantly altered in the short term. Coeur D’alene for example, a major silver miner, managed to reduce its costs by 26% from 2014 to the first quarter of 2017. Although an impressive reduction, the amount of time required to do that (especially when considering that the silver bear market started in 2011) is quite obvious. We’ve [noted previously](https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/gold-silver-bullion-news/silver-e2-80-99s-flash-crash-the-real-world-problems-low-prices-create/tabid/88/a/1575/default.aspx) that “mines are complicated and capital intensive. You can’t cut 26% costs in a mine overnight. There are a lot of moving parts and there are dozens of things that can go wrong”. A desirable result of this mining inertia is the fact that the commodities produced by mining operations are both limited in terms of supply and variable in terms of supply rate. These properties are interestingly also common to bitcoin mining, which is the analogous process by which bitcoins come into existence. Topically, mining output restraint is very well exemplified by an SRS Rocco article posted on Friday. As pictured below, the article reveals that 2017 Q2 saw extraordinary falls in silver output from four of the top primary silver miners; Hecla, Endeavour Silver, Silver Standard and First Majestic.  _SRS Rocco_ Figures compiled from recently released company data show silver production reductions in the range of 20% to 34%; figures that fall “well beyond normal fluctuations in mining company production figures” and hence demonstrate fundamental supply side pressures. This trend is perhaps even more obvious when the breakdown is viewed in terms of ounces as pictured below.  _SRS Rocco_ The reasons for these falls are an effective way of demonstrating the difficulties native to mining operations. Hecla’s silver output for example was hindered by a labour strike at their Lucky Friday mine in Idaho. Endeavour Silver experienced output declines due to “narrowing veins, falling ore grades and less ore production due to reduced capital expenditures in the beginning of 2016” along with reduced access to mine areas “as pump failures due to power overloading caused flooding in some portions of the mines”. Silver Standard’s mining output suffered from the closure of their Pirquitas open-pit operations coupled with the fact that their Chinchillas underground project which was intended to accommodate this closure won’t begin production until the second half of next year. Experiencing issues similar to Hecla was First Majestic which saw silver output impacted by an 8% drop in ore yield over the last 12 months and union related labour disruptions. Far from an isolated set of coincides however, the article cites low silver prices as an overarching common factor in the declines experienced by these silver miners; something that fails to accurately price in costs of risk and costs of production. This revelation plays out well in the wake of the article posted exactly 4 weeks ago entitled [“Silver’s Flash Crash & The Real World Problems Low Prices Create”](https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/gold-silver-bullion-news/silver-e2-80-99s-flash-crash-the-real-world-problems-low-prices-create/tabid/88/a/1575/default.aspx). In it we note that the between Coeur and Hecla, there could be a lot more than 30 million ounces of silver production a year in major trouble at current silver prices and this puts the supply side at further risk in an already high physical demand environment. Owning an asset that can only be produced through an arduous process is an alluring proposition to investors and it is partly the difficulty inherent in mining that makes the decision to own that which is mined so easy. This post is original content written today for [Ainslie Bullion](https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/Home.aspx)
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Very informative post thanks for sharing !!
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Thanks for the positive feedback @aryan12o 👍
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I love having hard assets such as silver and gold. It is good to have it in hand if something happens.
author | basicstoliving |
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Totally agree! Now following, please follow back.
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No need for anyone to be frustrated unless you were like me buying in since it was 30.00 or more, but after that I believed there was no loss if one keeps on buying all the way down. Well silver has hit bottom, I don't care if it hits 14.00, try buying it at that. For the most part your going to be spending anywhere from 2.00 up from spot or more. But really, who cares? As you have implied and are absolutely correct, silver is one hell of a buy right now! Get it now while you can, and soon, very soon you will be happy.😃
author | buster544 |
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Totally agree mate. Dollar cost averaging smooths the price movements and it makes sense to keep acquiring before the masses start to
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Bitcoin will exceed $ 3,300 Https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@carlos25554/bitcoin-reaches-historic-high-at-segwit-blocking-days
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Thanks @carlos25554. It's certainly been on a rocket ride and the HF wasn't the barrier that many were claiming it to be.
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I reckon the silver price needs to triple for these miners to increase production profitably. Production is declining because of the costs involved and the low return. That's the supply side of the equation. I'd like see the demand side of the equation as well. Why is demand weak?
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category | silver |
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Why anyone mines silver anymore is beyond me... what industries use tons of silver?
author | cryptohustlin |
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Probably lots of data out on that @cryptohustlin. Silver is largely a byproduct and is sourced from the primary mining of other elements, themselves at depressed prices so it's intertwined. The dual purpose investment / industrial use is unique to silver and some say the demand for solar panels and electric cars in particular in to the future alone justifies it. For these companies to have sharholders speaks to the idea that some must see value in primary mining I'd say. Thanks for the comment. Can certainly see how difficult the whole process appears to be.
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I'm a silver bug and love having a hard asset. I know the value of silver and the fact that there entire industry, for the most part, is struggling to keep production up. Now, what aggravates the hell out of me is how the price of silver is manipulated, on an unbelievable scale. I guess the way to look at it is keep stacking while silver is on sale and one day the damn will bust.
author | dwhntx |
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That's the only sensible thing that stackers can do @dwhntx. The frustration levels are high within the community and the reasons are genuine and real. Bill Holter speaks of real capitulation that he is starting to see occur and the up side is that he interprets that as one of the signs that the game is coming to an end. Ultimately, when the silver producers fall over (as is starting to happen right now) there will be no silver left to short and no market to be made. You've no doubt heard a number of analysts predicting a "no offer" scenario. No offer means no trade and in that case the commodity value is technically infinite. Keep stacking. It's a long term game and the motivations are as valid now as they've always been and as they always will be!
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I agree with everything you said. Actually I have more faith in gold and silver than I do in crypto. Nothing like having a physical asset sitting in your safe.
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Seen you are a member of the #steemsilvegold group, i am checking out all the members and following the ones that post stuff i would like to see on my feed. Your followed, thanks for sharing this post :D
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Upvoted. I'll be resteeming this now :)
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Thanks so much @smartdeveloper! Glad you enjoyed the read.
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Good piece! Well written and informative. Thanks! And i absolutely agree: holding the ultimate mining output in a pure, refined, physical form right in one's clean hand is alluring af!
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Ha! That would have made an impactful conclusion @thedamus. Thanks for the good feedback.
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...it's true! People forget that every ounce of silver one holds is equivalent to x amount of: labour, electricity, diesel, permits, housing, land lease, loan service, marketing etc. etc -- with zero risk it will ever be anything else.
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