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Why are new users not sticking around? by nonsowrites

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Why are new users not sticking around?
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This is something many of us have tried to wrap our heads around for the past 2-3 years. It is extremely frustrating on my part seeing people miss out on decentralised social media given its numerous benefits which including earning. I was speaking to one of my friend who I  onboarded some moments back. She hasn't made a post since she last posted an introduction post. However, she does have time to post on medium and twitter.

I believe this issue of retention and onboarding is psychological and not as apparent as we might think. I have come up with different ways to explain but have also countered my own arguments. Below are some of my points:



***MOST PEOPLE COME HERE FOR THE MONEY***

I think this is the most obvious fact. Most people are here for the money/crypto. Most of our policies are geared towards protecting and improving the value of the hive coin--hive. The coin is more important than the platform and that is what we sell to most people. When these people reach here with the expectation of making money but fail to actualise that in a few weeks they leave. They leave because they have options. Social media isn't a novelty. There are hundreds of platforms out there which more intuitive interfaces, easy onboarding schemes, etc. People have alternatives where they are already invested or established. These other platforms might not offer monetary benefits but they tend to have a more holistic social experience that keeps your average user hooked.



**MOST NEW USERS HAVE LITTLE OR NO BLOGGING EXPERIENCE.**

I have often said this in the past, hive is a blogging platform, not a social media site. They are two different things. For a blogging platform like this, you need content, for social media you need your thoughts and attention as you are mostly reacting to things--trending news and other people's thoughts. It is not the same with blogs where you are meant to share in details ideas and concepts. There are few persons here who blogged prior to their involvement in hive. I personally managed my poetry and creativity writing page before I joined hive and I took it seriously. I would write and spend quality time sharing my posts to people, conceiving them to read and give me feedback. This is how bloggers operate. Coming here with that type of mentality has kept me consistent for two years and yes i have earned significantly during this period which has also been a good motivation. Take one out of the two elements and i would have quit a long time ago


**ENGAGEMENT ISN'T SO GREAT**

I will attribute that to the fact that people aren't creating content others want to consume. Usually, I get my highest number of comment when I talk about hive or anything crypto-related because that's clearly what people care about here, which brings into question of diversity on the chain. It can be said that the interest of most people here is homogenous. This has been a mitigating factor to our growth. All attempts to change this have failed. The creation of communities was supposed to solve this problem but it has been misconstrued and this makes onboarding difficult as must new users care little about cryptocurrency.



**THERE IS JUST SO MUCH TO LEARN**

No other blogging or social platform burdens you with the responsibility of controlling your data and account. This is what is expected of every user. You're saddled with the responsibility of protecting your keys and partaking in governance. So it is fair to say that the average internet user cares little about data security because it is hard work especially when all they want to do is post content.


These for me are subtle elements that collectively contribute to the stagnation we suffer, which i do not consider a bad thing. I have said this numerous times: hive will not thrive as a blogging or social media platform. It is an integral part of blockchain and it offers educational benefits which make it easy for new users to familiarise themselves with the nitty-gritty of cryptocurrency, but it cannot be the thing that takes hive as a coin to the next level.

**Suggestion**:

**KEEP OLD CONTENT CREATORS HAPPY.**

 If they create high-quality content that can at least drive traffic (which seems not to matter that much). There is little that is being done to monetise traffic to the chain which is an important part of the social media business which makes me wonder if we are really interested in this business. We should be making money from traffic no matter how small; we need to encourage content creators to branch out to reach a wider audience. It is important to create value outside the chain.

**COMMUNITY BUILDING** 

Strong communities played an important part in our onboarding and retention in the past. Most of that is gone. There are fewer active communities, thus we have seen decline activities from active users and also poor retention of new users. So major stakeholders should work in creating communities or supporting communities. I am currently working with some Nigerians in building a Nigerian community and i believe more initiatives like this should be encouraged. People need a sense of belonging and that only happens when people are part of groups they identify with.


**KEEP TRYING NEW THINGS**

 No one actually knows all the answers. Maybe we may not like to admit but this is still an experimental project. Innovation is key. We need to keep trying new things. We have a small but active community and I believe keep innovating within a reasonable time frame we will achieve our goal
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@cardboard ·
I like the last tip the most :D
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@nonsowrites ·
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@elsiekjay ·
1. Compared to other SM, Hive is kind of very boring lol (I have more fun and post even more now on twitter than on here), the engagement on there and the laughs that come with it is priceless.

2. Other SM platforms may not be decentralized, but those who are determined to make money off of them make it happen. People say you can't make money on Twitter, IG etc, but truth is, those that build their brands are currently making a living off of it.

3. There's a loophole in DPOS that's not going to encourage any big investors into it until it's fixed. I wouldn't be comfortable investing say $1M in Hive after that #steemhostiletakeover, we need more layers of protection. I know Hive added 1 or 2, but *more* is needed.

But yeah, completely agree with everything you stated. The trick is to make dapps ontop on the chain that are actually fun, easy to use and ease some more on the on-boarding process. Still a long way to go.


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@mistakili ·
>Compared to other SM, Hive is kind of very boring lol (I have more fun and post even more now on twitter than on here), the engagement on there and the laughs that come with it is priceless.

Hive is not like every other SM

>Other SM platforms may not be decentralized, but those who are determined to make money off of them make it happen. People say you can't make money on Twitter, IG etc, but truth is, those that build their brands are currently making a living off of it.

Brands they built with as much time and commitment as people should do here

3. There's a loophole in DPOS that's not going to encourage any big investors into it until it's fixed. I wouldn't be comfortable investing say $1M in Hive after that #steemhostiletakeover, we need more layers of protection. I know Hive added 1 or 2, but more is needed

Rome was not built in a day, remember the move to Hive is fixing a security patch in a way. 


But yes more dapps are needed and stuff....

Hi sweetie!
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@jeanluc101 ·
I'm a seasoned internet user (though not a seasoned blogger) and to me, I find Hive a bit difficult to use. Notice I don't even have a profile picture? I've tried to change it multiple times with no success, my posts are kind of everywhere, etc.... I've been here a few months already and to be honest I'm still not 100% sure how to use this site. It's just not like other sites, heh.
I think that's maybe why people leave.
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@tipu ·
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@josediccus ·
At the end it all boils down to the fact that the mentality isn't goal driven. Communities play a huge part yes, and I think hive is better than what steem was because the rewards are shared better then before, not perfect but it's a gradual process. I'm not saying hive is perfect I'm only saying it doing gradually well. We probably need to up ante with the SME and the DEFI.
However sorry to deviate. I came to hive or stern knowing nobody I can tell you it boils down to mental strength and patience to understand here. If you want to make money it isn't easy anywhere and hive is no different. Aside that people do not want to add Value. @k-banti is probably one guy I feel he's been throughly consistent how many other people want to constantly do so and build? 

I may be wrong man I'm not perfect I just feel it's about the mentality
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@nonsowrites · (edited)
I do agree it's about mentality. However, we need to make people stay and help them reach the mental level we have. That can only happen via proper orientation via community onboarding schemes.

As an author, I have had a decent run on the blockchain and won't worry about these things but in the long run, it does matter esp to people who have long term plans 
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@josediccus ·
Absolutely true, cheers man
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@macchiata ·
I wonder about old articles that gets buried. Sometimes they even came up on a google search and ranked quite high but the payout already stop even it may bring a traffic. I wonder how it will be implemented to receive a payout even after 7 days mark.
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@nonsowrites ·
i think that is one of the major deterrents in making quality posts and sadly it is part of our culture. There were attempts to solve this problem, but it was discontinued as hardly did anyone use it
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@macchiata ·
Couldn't agree more. If the payout was extended more than 7 days, I bet people would care about SEO more and plenty technical details about blogging.
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@minismallholding ·
You've hit on some very good points here. 
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@minismallholding ·
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You've hit on some very good points here. Hive does cut out a lot of potentials. Some people don't even take to regularly using other social media platforms regularly, so why bother with one that's even harder to get on with?

Some days I don't have the energy for interacting or writing, so I end up just playing a few games of Splinterlands. So yes, other interfaces are certainly the way forward in the long run. 

>Usually, I get my highest number of comment when I talk about hive...


For those of us on here, I guess this is the one thing we all have in common, no matter what our other interests are. So makes sense it would attract a wider audience and interest to weigh in on the conversation. 

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@nonsowrites ·
>Some people don't even take to regularly using other social media platforms regularly, so why bother with one that's even harder to get on with?

Very valid. Yesterday I only made one tweet on Twitter.
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@mistakili ·
Truth is Hive is the most advanced technology in this game and will definately face these shortcomings!, Hive is not like other SM, whether we try to be like medium for bloggers or short posts like twitter, these techs are nothing like Hive and it will take as long as possible for people to adopt hive for what it is and adapt to it. 

Hive might be more difficult to navigate than the traditional social mediums, but it will be for people who are willing to evolve and learn. 

I don't force anyone or even have to cajole anyone into joining hive, but giving you snippets of what you have to benefit, then it is left to you. 

Practical example, I was telling my friend about Steem, a girl happened to be there and tried to listen, liked the idea and signed up, shes no blogger or writer of any type, her account is @bliss11,  you can check it out, the guy i was mainly telling about is no where to be found. 

Hive is what it is, we are the ones building this ship with every second we spend here playing our parts. 

More can be done to retain, but we will continue to do what we can in our capacities. 

Thanks for the post mate 

Cheers
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@bliss11 ·
😍☺😘
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@nonsowrites · (edited)
>Truth is Hive is the most advanced technology in this game and will definitely face these shortcomings!, 

That's why I feel fortunate to have landed here as it is shaping my perspective and life in so many ways, it goes beyond just earning.

>Hive is not like other SM, whether we try to be like medium for bloggers or short posts like twitter, these techs are nothing like Hive and it will take as long as possible for people to adopt hive for what it is and adapt to it.

True. It is not the same and expecting the same result is futile. I see hive a both your bank account and social media account combined as one. This is a unique feature (I think WeChat offers something similar but on a centralised level and not as intricate as hive)

>I don't force anyone or even have to cajole anyone into joining hive, but giving you snippets of what you have to benefit, then it is left to you

As it should be. Spreading the word is very important at this point.

>More can be done to retain, but we will continue to do what we can in our capacities

True. No one said it will be easy and i am up for the challenge
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@mistakili ·
Thats it my G!
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@mistakili ·
Thats it my G!
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@nathanmars ·
I'll do my part to make sure new HIVERS will stay with us for long-term.
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@nonsowrites ·
with you all the way Nath
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