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art · @paolobeneforti · Oct 25 '17 (edited)

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<p>I tried to think about a subject I recalled recently listening to the first video chat of the @sndbox project&nbsp;</p>
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<p>I guess everyone knows the amazing Sndbox Project (-&gt;<a href="https://www.sndbox.co/">website</a>) &nbsp;created and managed by &nbsp;@hansikhouse and @voronoi - of @hitheryon - the team behind STEEM Park. <em>You don't? Well, fix it! :)</em></p>
<p>Steem Park is the first - the pilot - design project developed by the team. It is <a href="https://steemit.com/steempark/@hitheryon/steem-park-the-first-public-design-project-funded-by-cryptocurrency-press-release">The First Public Design Project Funded By Cryptocurrency&nbsp;</a></p>
<p><img src="https://steemitimages.com/DQmezmC3fxTf4BMUSxqmtFrJah6vfxexh9WdyFL5GGsGbSW/Steem-Park_thumbnail-01.gif" width="1000" height="600"/></p>
<p>What is the peculiarity of this project in the <em>Steemverse</em>? Yes. It is a physical place with material objects.</p>
<p><em>(I thought about building a </em><a href="https://steemit.com/art/@paolobeneforti/my-own-land-art-park-will-host-a-huge-steemit-logo-well-in-the-future-perhaps"><em>Land Art Park of my own</em></a><em>, and put in it some digitally created-connected sculpture. Maybe in the future)</em></p>
<p><img src="https://steemitimages.com/0x0/http://i.imgur.com/q1fPhKO.jpg" width="800" height="690"/></p>
<p>Now, what I'm thinking about is: what does it means for Art, in the Digital Age, to have a physical place or a physical installation connected to the network of people who can appreciate it (or hate it: what matters is the influence)?</p>
<p>Most of the images we have in our memory or we see every day are reproductions of something - digital photographs, screenshots, video. It is not always easy to understand if something you see on your monitor is a photograph or a digital creation/elaboration. And, of course, there are a lot of amazing digital images created by artists every day on their computer/tablet. The point is not the distinction between digital and physical art.</p>
<p><strong>The point is the awareness of a physical, concrete object and place existing somewhere, gravity-bound and exposed to the weather </strong>(or maybe under a good roof): what does it change in the way you see and read an image of an artwork the awareness that it is a physical thing that stays somewhere, beyond borders and under a flag, in the actual human society? How is it different if you instead know that what are looking at is a virtual object - a cabin from <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film)">Avatar</a> world, a statue in <a href="http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Stormwind_City">Stormwind</a>, a digital 3D rendering?</p>
<p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/d9SNM06.jpg" width="1000" height="706"/></p>
<p>Up to this point, we are &nbsp;not so far, somehow, from the distinction between original artwork and its reproduction that Walter Benjamin discussed in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Work_of_Art_in_the_Age_of_Mechanical_Reproduction">his famous essay</a>: the original, one-of-the-kind artwork has something more, something the reproductions haven't. Benjamin calls it "aura", meaning an almost spiritual veracity and originality - a kind of primordial legacy, somehow.&nbsp;</p>
<center><p><img src="https://thefrailestthing.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/walter-benjamin.jpg" width="224" height="360"/>&nbsp;(<a href="https://thefrailestthing.com/tag/walter-benjamin/">source</a>)</p></center>
<p>But what I'm trying to think about now is not just the couple original-reproduction. I think that this scenario changes if we consider not just an "original", physical artwork, but an artwork created in a physical place specifically to be the root and the "ground" of a content shared and communicated around the world, on the web, beyond any borders.</p>
<p>I think that if something is created and built like that - in an italian square, in a park in New York City, in a somewhere &nbsp;bamboo wood - we can see it as it was somehow in a newborn place, but still a physical place. It is something like an artificial isle built in international waters.</p>
<p>In my opinion, this is another of the subjects Art will have to deal with.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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@arthuradamson · Oct 25 '17

Fascinating thoughts and very good points you make here-
What came to my mind as I read your post was -   with regards to "art in a space" and being "connected digitally" - Virtual spaces.
With the inevitable advancement of virtual reality technology  - putting on of headsets/goggles/interactive gloves etc - it could open up ways for people to "view" and even interact with,  artworks that are created virtually in 3d light forms somewhere on within the internet space.
That for me would be mind blowing.

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@paolobeneforti · Oct 26 '17

Thx Arthur. Yes, I wanted to write about Augmented Reality too - which is somehow a connection between physical and virtual space. I'll try in a next post.

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@arthuradamson · Oct 26 '17

Look forward to reading that post : ) I will keep an eye out for it.

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@janvanhoess · Oct 25 '17

Physical places for network Art - Some thoughts 
What your mind sir

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@mintvilla · Oct 25 '17

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I remember that you've posted several sculpture ideas a while ago. I love the idea of creating shared art/space/sculpture in a physical space through a virtual space.

👍 paolobeneforti

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@jmoriah · Nov 3 '17 (edited)

Interesting article,  I think that the function of any sort of physical sculpture plays a role in how it can alter or be experienced in a virtual environment. *Example, a bluetooth speaker is a good example of a physical sculpture (in a sense) that is interacted with through a shared virtual space.*

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@vividrange · Oct 27 '17

$0.05

I really enjoyed your drawings and the park idea - I wish you all the best and hope you achieve all your goals you set of to through sandbox and using steemit - Have a great day and see you around

👍 paolobeneforti

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@paolobeneforti · Oct 27 '17

thx :)

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