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50 DAYS TO UNDERSTANDING THE END-TIMES MORE ACCURATELY - DAY 22 - "OLIVET DISCOURSE" : ARMAGEDDON OR RAPTURE Part 1 - AUDIO & VIDEO by papa-pepper

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## <center>This is DAY TWENTY TWO of the daily devotional.</center>

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I am releasing a 50 day daily devotional about the end-times as revealed in Scripture. Along with the text, I will be providing a video where I cover the text of the day, and @verbal-d will be providing an audio version of it. That way, whether you want to read, watch, or listen, you'll be able to enjoy this study as you wish. 

The plan is to release this devotional over the next 50 consecutive days, but life may "get in the way." We will do our best, but please be patient with me if I fall behind. 

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## <center>The YouTube Video from @papa-pepper</center>
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## <center>The Text I Originally Shared on the @narrowminded Account</center>
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# <center>DAY 22 - "OLIVET DISCOURSE" : ARMAGEDDON OR RAPTURE Part 1</center>
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<div class="pull-right">https://i.imgur.com/EcPqfdN.jpg</div>Concerning the “Olivet Discourse” (Matthew 24 & 25, Mark 13, & Luke 21), there are at most two possibilities of what “coming” of Jesus Christ these passages speak of. If the coming addressed is the rapture, as I believe it is, then we should find some evidence for that. If the coming that is mentioned is Jesus’ return for the “Battle of Armageddon”, then there should be something in the passage that demonstrates that. If we use what the Bible tells us about each of these events, and compare it to these passages, we should be able to reach some sort of conclusion.
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**“Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.” (Zechariah 14:3-5)**

**“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)**

<div class="pull-left">https://i.imgur.com/Yi0336m.jpg</div>The first passage speaks of Christ’s return for the “Battle of Armageddon”; the second of His return to rapture the saints before the “Day of the Lord”. We will first look at the differences in these two passages, and then see which one is compatible with the “Olivet Discourse.” In Zechariah, we see that Jesus’ “feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives… and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof”. Also, He “shall come, and all the saints with” Him. The three events to remember from this passage are; Jesus stands on the Mount of Olives, the Mount of Olives splits, and Jesus comes will “all the saints.”
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<div class="pull-right">https://i.imgur.com/afM1agt.jpg</div>A very different picture is painted when 1 Thessalonians describes the rapture. When “the Lord himself shall descend from heaven”, there will be “a shout, the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God.” After “the dead in Christ… rise,” the saints “which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air”. This passage speaks of an angel and a trumpet, saints being caught up (raptured) to the Lord, the dead rising, and Jesus being in the air. Using these differences, we can evaluate which one correlates with the “Olivet Discourse” tomorrow.
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## Point #1: The “Olivet Discourse” describes a coming, or return, of the Lord Jesus Christ.

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## Point #2: At most, it could be describing either the rapture return of Christ, or His coming for the “Battle of Armageddon”.
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## Point #3: When Christ returns for Armageddon, He will come with all His saints, stand upon the Mount of Olives, and the mountain will split.
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## Point #4: When Christ returns to rapture the saints, an angel shouts with a trumpet of God, the dead rise, and the saints who are still alive meet the Lord while He is still in the air.
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## <center>CLOSER</center>
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If anyone is really interested, I did post the entire volume through an alt account over a year ago. I did so as an experiment to see how hard it would be for a new user to get noticed on steemit, so I didn't let anyone know that I was doing it. [You can click here to a post that has links to the entire 50 days of this devotional if you really want to read ahead.](https://steemit.com/rapture/@narrowminded/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-postscript) That information has always been available there since I first posted it. It is not the purpose of this series to just copy all of my previous work, but instead to transform it into some new outlets by releasing it in an audio and video format, to broaden the reach that this work has.

Again, though I will certainly never claim to know it all, I do believe that many are being lead astray by some popular beliefs. I hope that this project will be able to help many others understand the end-times more accurately. Thanks!

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## <center>PREVIOUS POSTS</center>
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Just in case you are new to this series and wanted to check out the previous audio or videos, here are links to the posts from each day of this series.

* [**NEW SERIES**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/understanding-the-end-times-a-new-series-from-papa-pepper)
* [**PREFACE**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-preface-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 1 - THE FOUNDATION**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-1-the-foundation-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 2 - "THE TRIBULATION"**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-2-the-tribulation-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 3 - THE SEVENTIETH WEEK OF DANIEL**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-3-the-seventieth-week-of-daniel-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 4 - NOT APPOINTED TO WRATH**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-4-not-appointed-to-wrath-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 5 - WRATH vs. TRIBULATION**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-5-wrath-vs-tribulation-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 6 - THE DAY OF THE LORD**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day6-the-day-of-the-lord-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 7 - THE LORD ALONE**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-7-the-lord-alone-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 8 - THE EXALTATION OF THE ANTICHRIST**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-8-the-exaltation-of-the-antichrist-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 9 - PROMISES**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-9-promises-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 10 - THE PRESUPPOSITION**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-10-the-presupposition-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 11 - 2 THESSALONIANS 2:1-4**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-11-2-thessalonians-2-1-4-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 12 - THE REVEALING OF THE ANTICHRIST**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-12-the-revealing-of-the-anti-christ-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 13 - SAME DAY 1**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-13-same-day-1-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 14 - SAME DAY 2**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-14-same-day-2-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 15 - HAND IN HAND**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-15-hand-in-hand-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 16 - OVERTAKE YOU AS A THIEF**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-16-overtake-you-as-a-thief-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 17 - ANOTHER THIEF?**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-17-another-thief-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 18 - NOT KNOWING THE DAY OR HOUR - 1**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-18-not-knowing-the-day-or-hour-1-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 19 - NOT KNOWING THE DAY OR HOUR - 2**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-19-not-knowing-the-day-or-hour-2-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 20 - NOT KNOWING THE DAY OR HOUR - 3**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-20-not-knowing-the-day-or-hour-3-audio-and-video)
* [**DAY 21 - IGNORANCE**](https://steemit.com/spirituality/@papa-pepper/50-days-to-understanding-the-end-times-more-accurately-day-21-ignorance-audio-and-video)

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@ambdavid · (edited)
Jesus said everything that KS happening today,  infact  nothing should talke believers by surprise.  The signs are all here but my question is are believers ready? 
That revelation about amargedon is holistic. GOD bless
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@annieben · (edited)
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I have been following your daily devotional and I must say I am really impressed that there are still people out here who take out time to share the word of God with others despite the state of things in the world.

My first encounter with the word 'armageddon' left me afraid. I didn't understand that it would be after we were caught up in the clouds with Jesus but thank God, I understand better now.
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Yes! It's truly amazing...
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I appreciate the encouragement!
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Totally Agree Annie
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wow very nice post
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@bikalsiwakoti ·
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Awesome bro its incredible.
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@brianvigeant ·
Wow I got the first comment
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@camillius ·
the the fourth point is not different from what haopened the day Christ died (Matthew 27:51)
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@dagger212 ·
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So, I might be skipping ahead but it seems to me from this lesson that the rapture must come first since when he comes again "all the saints come with Thee", which would imply that we come back and have a part to play in the Armageddon????  Could that be right?  I'll keep reading....
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@derpmcdergal ·
theyre gonna fake it with project blue beam I bet
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@elinderzambrano ·
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Wowwww... Excelente @papa-pepper

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@enajo ·
Most times am really amazed by your personality. This is the first time am reading the devotional write up, so that I won't miss anything I will try my best to go through the previous publication. 

The book of revelation is something that makes me reflect on so many things. I pray for the grace to be among the saint when the time comes.
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@fauzanhaikal ·
a very nice post frend .. and I will meresteem have you now and you help me unvote yesfriend
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@hboi ·
Before i began reading i have to go through some scripture attached to it.

>Mark  13:4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?
  13:5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:  
13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.  
13:7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
  13:8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows. e
 13:9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them. 
 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
  13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.  
13:12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.  
13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

wow it's very vivid that you got the holy spirit's understanding because it takes that to really understand the bible, indeed i agree with the relation of what ___Zechariah 14:3-5___ and ___1 Thessalonians 4:16-17___ said about the Day of the lord, nice points stated  @papa-pepper and keep up the daily devotion on because it's really educating!!!
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@imp.unity ·
I love that!

speaks of "the dead rising... and Jesus in the Air"

That's a funny image to me in my sophomoric imagination of a white Jesus flying in the air, like a little speck of dust high up in the sky!

Very interesting... Can I ask you @papa-pepper, is this all a "literalist" interpretation of the Bible? And which version of the Bible do you subscribe to, given that the Bibles have all been altered quite a bit, and a lot of the meaning which came to us from ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and ancient Greek, has been lost in translation.

I've been following your 50 days discourse and am for the life of me puzzled as to what any of this actually means.

I'm a firm believer in the prophesies that we're made in the Middle East since Abram founded Judaism, yet without reconciling the imagery that the Bible evokes to convey meaning with tangible ideas and phenomena in the real world, I am left hopelessly confused as to the true meaning of many of these stories, much like what would seem to be billions of my fellow humans.

So what does it mean?

I've never seen a priest describe anything from Revelation and Ezekiel in any way that makes any sense...

I even hate to say it, the best understanding I can have for these stories is of the "ancient astronaut" hypothesis, and the idea that early Sumerian civilization may have been influenced by physical beings that came from a distant planet, if not solar system...

But am also willing to believe these sacred men, seers and prophets were also under the influence of very powerful psychedelics that were performed in incredibly vital and sacred rituals and ceremonies, thus plunging deep into the recesses of the human subconscious to seek answers on the level of our DNA (the Akashik Record) and even further, in completely disembodied states of consciousness and in communion with entities from higher dimensions (Angels.)

Can you offer any enlightenment or comment on any of these ideas? What do you think these stories **_actually mean_**.

I hate to be a downer and please feel free to dismiss my curiosity if you do not feel comfortable answering.

I just hate feeling of being trapped in a semantic labyrinth, unable to actually understand the words I am reading. 

I always look up the etymology of words, and try to understand meaning at the root level... But so far the Bible still doth puzzle me as King James may have once uttered.

Peace and Love @papa-pepper <3
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@protegeaa ·
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I'll share my thoughts, although I'm neither papa-pepper nor a believer in the Rapture (which is a tradition of man invented in the 19th century), but the terminology of Jesus coming down from Heaven on a cloud had a certain meaning to 1st century Jews. It was an idiom that described destruction...that destruction was laid upon the Temple by the Romans around 70 AD. 

There's a lot of depth and "inside baseball" to the Scriptures and I'd point you to the St Paul Center for Biblical Theology to get some of the best scholars' inputs on what it all means.
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@imp.unity · (edited)
Hey @protegeaa ! Thanks so much for your input!
Waow, I did not know that believing in the rapture really only begun in the 19th century. Isn't that **_interesting._** So belief in an end of the world roughly coincided with the rise of the industrial revolution and the new kind of "wage-slavery" that was taking place. That's really, really fascinating. Thank you for that nugget of insight. 

Hmmm, so you think that Jesus comes down from Heaven on a cloud was symbolically synonymous with the Destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem with the Romans? **_Fascinating._** 

If I'm not incorrect, it was under Vespasian that the Temple was destroyed? 

And you allude to St. Paul if we're looking for the answers to that question? **_Even more interesting_**. I'm quite familiar now with the conspiracy theory that St. Paul was actually the historical character Josephus Flavius (Saul of Tarsus), and that Josephus wrote himself into the story of the New Testament at the time of the Crucifixion. If that theory is true, then it could be argued that St. Paul actually did know Jesus, who would have had to been King Yeshuah, and wrote the entire story of the Crucifixion.

Pontius Pilate and the Year 33 would have been some kind of malarkey to distance himself from the events taking place in the new religion he was attempting to found, **_namely Catholicism_** and the Church he was trying to establish, namely **_The Holy Roman Church_**. 

In the story, there is a mystery apostle called "Joseph of Arimathea" who only appears at the time of the crucifixition. Could he have been this character Saul of Tarsus / Josephus Flavius / St Paul. 

What's so fascinating about this whole epoch is how the Church of Jerusalem (or the Church of Yeshua and James) was destroyed and replaced with another Church, the Holy Roman Church.

Suddenly the teachings of King Yeshuah became the teachings of Iesus (Ye-Zeus), aka Yeshua x Zeus. And it became a very pagan religion that was spread across the Empire in an attempt to start controlling the people.

This can be logically backed-up because the Hebrews were the first group of people that Julius Ceasar could not conquer. And so those who came after him were seeking for a way to divide the Jews. The myth of a "Messiah" based on a re-writing of earlier Gnostic texts (from the Essene Brotherhood which had preserved the link between the **Exodus** of the Hyksos Pharaohs all the way to the founding of the Temple of Jerusalem in the Jordan River Valley) could have been the perfect pretext to start a massive disinformation campaign in the Judea and Galilee. As we can see, it was not only very successful in dividing the Jews in its age, but has been successful for millennia after in achieving the political goals of the Romans, namely to control people through State religion at the point of the pulpit rather than via garrisoned troops at the point of the whip and boot.

It's interesting that in Islam St. Paul is seen as the Deceiver and a Liar. 

I wonder where they got that from?

Thanks for your answer, I had no idea the Rapture and Jesus floating down on a Cloud was actually cryptic information regarding the perception among the Jews of the 1st century about a destruction that was imposed on their faith by the Romans.

Also makes sense why the Jews hate this "Jesus" character, who as many know, is a fictional amalgamation of several very influential and important historical characters, much like Shakespeare for example ^^
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@jamesmovic ·
Keep up the good work sir .....
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@klen.civil ·
Very interesting 
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@masril ·
Good post,
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@mineopoly ·
Hi. I just started following you and your homestead. Can you answer one question? What is the Christian-trail tag?
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@papa-pepper ·
Just  a tag that the @christian-trail account created to curate from. It can be used for any Christian content posted here on steemit.
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@mineopoly ·
Thank you.
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@stevenmosoes ·
Thank you @papa-pepper for the explanation.
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@mnmleger ·
Very good and I cant wait to see the other points to consider. I refuse to cheat and read the old article! haha I like the bite size chunks you present. On a tangential note: Thessalonians is a verse that helped me to wrap my mind around what happens when you die! The common conception is that we all go to heaven when we die but this verse seems to claim that we simly remain in the dirt...until His return!
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@mosunomotunde ·
Interesting! This is a pretty fresh perspective from which to view the concept. Its noble to help people come to terms with the idea of rapture...understanding instead of fearful contemplation...gonna check out the previous posts for more information. Bless your heart sir!
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@nathansackey ·
Very insightful...  I love the way you analyze scriptures...  Good job @papa-pepper
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@poimenpost ·
I just discovered this series moments ago (forgive me, I'm new here).  As I have a great interest in biblical studies, I'm excited about going back through these posts with my Bible open.  Thank you for making this available to us.  Blessings to you!
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@princessfrank ·
thank for that eye opener about the Armageddon war, God bless you and give us the grace to make it to see Jesus. but am thinning of something, many nations now are against Israel, are you sure it will not lead to the war, please clarify me.thanks @papa-pepper
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@reverend-fidelis ·
Thanks for the godly atmosphere you are creating here.
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@sjames ·
Great inspiration and definitely more than needed for the world we are living in. 'God helps those that help themselves' and similar other lines of thoughts are sometimes not enough to describe deeper insights of the mindset and proper way of action.

For that reason, contributions such as these are really valuable and I hope that many will use it.

Thank you!
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@zac92 ·
IT'S JUST A COINCIDENCE. I NEVER IMPERSONATE ANYONE.
Please do not go through my blog and spam
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@papa-pepper ·
I coincidence that you stole my avatar? I made it myself, and it did not exist anywhere else. I see that you have changed it now, you are forgiven. I'll edit my comments.
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@zalife ·
Wow Papa, I havent been on in a while due to life, but I love what you are doing! Resteemed.
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@annieben ·
This is what love for others really entails.... sharing the word of God with them
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