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spam-bots · @patrice ·
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I'm curious... 

>@cheetah averaging 984 comments/day and 2 posts/day
The average drain on the Rewards pool is $15 USD / day
The bot will consume $5,475 USD from the reward Pool and add 359,890 posts this year.

Do you take into consideration how much it costs in google api calls for cheetah to run? Not to mention the hardware it runs on? 

>All of these bots are owned by the same user; we all know who you are.

Nice to know I'm a bot! Thanks for letting me know! Oh if I'm a bot who owns me? I really need some computer upgrades to find these darn comment spammers. @spaminator and I are up to about 3000 accounts in the last 7 days. 

>@adm and @steemcleaners upvote each comment for $1.10

The reason behind this is here.  
https://steemit.com/steemcleaner/@transisto/steemcleaner-please-update-your-support-us-instructions

>Ironically these bots that claim to fight SPAM but create more SPAM to the blockchain than any other user.

Have you added up all the multiple accounts spamming? 
https://steemit.com/spaminator/@spaminator/10-102-spam-comments-need-flagged

Just some quick numbers here on comments since 8/02 till about 10 minutes ago. 
Steemitboard: 17764 comments
randowhale: 6173 comments
minnowsupport: 5094 comments
cheetah: 4385 comments
steemcleaners: 774 comments

I don't know who actually owns @adm. I have been told by several it is a community funded account that supports our effort in fighting abuse. 

Do you have any suggestions on how to notify users they are plagiarising, commiting ID theft, or othe rabuse besides leaving a comment? 

How about telling users that they may be up-voting someone who steals content or scams users by claiming to be someone they are not for money? 

Have any idea how to get trusted members to spend 8 or more hours of their day sifting through steemit posts and comments looking for those trying to scam their way to big rewards?

Were you even here when users were making $1,000 or more a post by claiming they were someone they were not? When many of us did this for nothing?
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@bashadow ·
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Sour grapes, and precious little snowflakes will never understand. All they know (and it is usually wrong) is that they must be being cheated and stolen from, since the other guy has more money.  They will never understand that you get what you work for. If you don't work at it you will never get it, whether its a new toy or new knowledge.
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@aaronmda ·
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uh oh @bashadow i'm going to have to make another video for people who don't know wtf they're talking about. i'm going to educate you on the meaning of "a hard day's work" ain't nobody got s**t on me in that regard and thanks to the internet i can prove it. "assumption" will get you everytime

 and I know, 

i still assume much and it gets me every time

 well................almost.
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@bashadow · 
> educate you on the meaning of "a hard day's work" ain't nobody got s**t on me
I never said **you** don't work hard, and I could care less how much, how hard, or how often, you work. This thread is about **Spam , Plagiarism, and Bots**.  so go ahead make your **In depth** review and video on how right it is for people to simply copy and paste other peoples work, get paid for it and get rich, because we have **good bots** that will blindly upvote any post you make if you join our group and we don't give a shit about spam or plagiarism. I am sure it will be the fastest climbing post on steemit and make you millions of dollars. **NOTE I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU COPY PASTE PLAGIARIZE** I understand you want to get to the **TRUTH** of the cheetah bot and steemcleaners. That you have been dazzled by a bunch of useless facts and figures which ignore the problem. Real SPAM and real Plagiarism.
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@anyx · (edited)
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Christ, I don't know why I bother trying to deal with this clear misinformation, attacks, and fud...

For the record, adm is not owned by steemcleaners, we are only borrowing the voting power. If you want to whine to who got the money from the adm account, talk to abit. It's all his money, he sold it or moved it or whatever, into and out of his own pockets. We have nothing do with finances on that account.

All steemcleaners rewards are distributed to the community members fighting abuse. It's based on the theory that downvotes have no rewards; but upvotes do (curation reward). so the community collectively bands together to reward those using their time in a way that would have been unrewarding (downvoting abuse), when they could have instead used it in a manner that would be naturally rewarding (gaining curation).

The cheetah report reward is paying for the API cost and metal cost (needs full steemd node). On high intensity days it is under-payed, and I'm paying for the overage out of my pocket.

Oh, and steemcleaners is not a bot. How many times do you have to be informed of that before it clicks...

And as mentioned elsewhere in the comments here, [read this post and my response](https://steemit.com/steemcleaner/@transisto/steemcleaner-please-update-your-support-us-instructions) to understand why we moved some of the reward away from the report and to the comments. I much preferred the all-in-one style on the report, so if you can convice @transisto to let us do that again, that would be wonderful.
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@softgrip · 
You might not be @patrice - but 4 of your 6 upvotes are.

And they are producing spam every day.

I asked steemabuse channel if it was Ok, and they said it was abusive to post automatically copy/paste with no followers and upvote amongst themselves like those 4 are doing.

fubar165
zatrhas
zathras
beerbot

It's like police turning a blind eye on police crime.  Playing favorites.

This is the guy getting commendation for anti spam from anyx.

Lets look at the behaviour outside of steemit to see if we can get some incite.   I've already listed the spamming bots.  Let's see if there is any pattern.

https://twitter.com/fubar_bdhr?lang=en
https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/profile/27519-fubar-bdhr/

This leaves me with a sour taste in my mouth.
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