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Using Virtual Reality for a painful goodbye
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In the 90s, I read a book by an MIT psychologist that I think I remember titled "Reflections of the Self: Building Identity in the Virtual World" or something in that style, unfortunately I read it in a library and now I don't I have it at hand and I do not remember who the author was (I remember that she had a review of her work on the back cover, but in truth that for more than I tried I forgot her name)

In that book, the researcher stated that she was interested in the use of technology for the approach of psychology and possible treatments of people, among them I was struck by the use of video game environments to perform techniques similar to psychodramas, you can review what they are [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychodrama), or summarize what is to make the patients represent in a group, as if it were a play, situations related to their pathological conflicts, with the objective that they become aware of them and can overcome.

Today, I was reviewing news about technology and I saw one on a site in Spanish that caught my attention and made me remember everything I wrote before.

> # Emotional video: mother says goodbye to her late daughter thanks to virtual reality
>Jang Ji-Sung lost his seven-year-old daughter, Nayeon, in 2016 a month after being diagnosed with leukemia. As explained by the MBC documentary β€˜I Met You’. The mother in the face of the painful loss wanted to meet her daughter so she could say goodbye and remember her daughter in another way.
It was there that the South Korean company Viv Studio worked hard for eight months to organize a moving meeting between her mother and Nayeon. To achieve this meeting, the video specialists collected photos and multimedia content of the child, analyzed their behavior, tone of voice and gestures. All this work was thanks to the motion capture technique that manages to create a unique and digital image and thus achieve the animation of the girl.
[Source (in Spanish original)](https://www.ntn24america.com/tecnologia/otros-paises/emotivo-video-madre-da-ultimo-adios-su-hija-fallecida-gracias-la-realidad)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uflTK8c4w0c

The pain of a death is strong, that of the death of a close relative is very strong and I don't want to even think how terrible it is when it comes to your own son or daughter. The psychological crisis, depression and the inability to say goodbye to the loved one gives rise to regrets that are not easy and in some cases are never overcome.

In this sense, the idea of using a Virtual Reality environment to be able to make a "Closure" or a "Farewell" I think it may be useful, I had seen it before in cases of fear or phobia therapy, but it is the first time I see it in a treatment for "Mourning"

I wonder if a future would be possible in which other technologies are added and we could achieve an avatar that would transcend us and be able to represent us not only in terms of our image but also in our ways of thinking, in order to leave a farewell message to our relatives and allow him to close the cycle and say goodbye if they have any regrets after our own death.

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@crypto.piotr ·
Dear @pedrobrito2004

Interesting choice of topic. Very unique. Thanks for sharing story about this indeed touching meeting.

Initially I thought that 'Using Virtual Reality for a painful goodbye' would mean breaking up with your partner using VR. That would be something, don't you think? It surely amaze me to think of ways that one day VR will change communication channels and will allow people to experience something unimaginable.

ps.
It seem that recently everyone is focusing on Justin Sun from Tron and his recent purchase of Steemit Inc. It's nice to read something non-related :)

Upvoted alread, have a great monday buddy
Yours, Piotr
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@pedrobrito2004 ·
Ok, breaking a romantic relationship also causes a situation of pain or mourning, but I definitely think it's on another level.
I am also surprised by the use of this technology, although I had already read its use before for other treatments and therapies, it is the first time I see that it is used for this kind of situation.
I wonder if in the future I could create an entity with AI and Augmented Reality that, after I was gone, could visit my relatives and give my last advice and my farewell if in life I failed to do it in time ... That sounds weird at times, but it is something that could be of some use.

By the way, I left the topic of Tron because, in addition to my concerns, I have nothing new to contribute, so I preferred to write this other post. I understand that Sun's issue is the Hot News of the moment, but I have read enough of that and I don't know what I could write that is something new.
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@crypto.piotr ·
Thanks for that comment @pedrobrito2004

I love how always responsive you are @pedrobrito2004
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@josevas217 ·
Wow @pedrobrito2004, I hadn't imagined this... it's impressive this use.

I don't know, this could really be therapeutic for some people, who have gone through a psychological preparation to make them understand that it is a farewell. 

But I also see that it could bring other problems, people with the recurrent need to want to live that moment again, at least to be in contact with that someone who is no longer there.

I think it could even be a double-edged sword for some cases, for this mom it probably worked, but as in everything related to the human mind, it is subject to drastic variations from one human being to another.

Very interesting topic professor, very good. It got me thinking.
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@pedrobrito2004 ·
Thanks for the comment, I had not thought about the possibility of generating some kind of dependence on this technology, it would be like the case of a medical treatment or psychological therapy that instead of being used for treatment and improvement of health will end up damaging the health or creating a new type of "Junkie"
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@josevas217 ·
Exactly.
Not to be negative, but we must try to see all the possibilities, to avoid the less beneficial ones. 
But as a tool, it's great, just great. 
I have no doubt it could be put to good use. As you've already demonstrated with the experiment.


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@juanmolina ·
My regards, brother @pedrobrito2004.

Ethical limits are touched again with the implementation of AI.

How far will the advancement of this technology go?

Aspects that exceed physical contact are being addressed. The medical processes assisted with AI and VR remain highly questioned today. Perhaps because it is so invasive, then to think that a machine will decide where and how to make an incision in a human brain, provokes encounter of opinions and feelings.

But this issue you bring us today, I think it goes much further.
Here the people's psyche is invaded. The feelings. the thoughts. Creating memories based on something unreal.

We should ask ourselves: How far does reality go? What makes something real for us?

Many times we had a dream and woke up feeling it was a reality. Then everything is in our brain. In those small chemical connections that occur.

Fascinating topic!
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@pedrobrito2004 ·
Thanks for the comment.

Certainly ethical aspects are problematic, even if this technology is used as part of a treatment or therapy to fight mourning.

By the way, the questioning about reality led me to old memories of the classic movie Matrix and Morpheus' speech about the real hahaha, well I also remembered that at that time I remembered the discussions about the deceits of the human senses among materialist philosophers and idealist philosophers ... "reality" may be a construction we make between what we perceive and what our social group accepts as real.

![](https://66.media.tumblr.com/bbcce2f511e63b0bb0a3859c363a3d71/tumblr_p64m8e87wb1rrkahjo10_500.gifv)
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@mickvir ·
It is amazing how far technology has come and your vision of a world where we could leave messages in the form of an AI may not be as far away as it sounds.
The mind is a powerful thing that we still don’t fully understand, grief can cause a lot of issues both mental and health. I have lost many people close to me over the years , but just the thought of losing a child is upsetting and something I hope I never have to go through.
Thank you for sharing this,
Have an awesome day!
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@pedrobrito2004 ·
I remember reading somewhere "No father should bury his children", I have never wanted to imagine what I would feel in such a situation, I simply accept that just thinking about it already scares me.
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@oluwatobiloba ·
The pain of loosing a loved one is really heart breaking and if the use of technology could help solve it, then it will be really amazing.
I remember loosing a very young pretty student while I was observing the compulsory NYSC scheme service in my country, it was really traumatic for me, but for her mother, she almost ran mad and it took time and affection of loved ones to help her behave normal again.
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@pedrobrito2004 ·
I think that the pain of losing a daughter well could drive a mother crazy, I can't and I don't want to imagine how strong that pain is. That is why the news caught my attention and made me think about the usefulness it would have for people suffering from mourning, after all, on many occasions we felt that we could not say goodbye correctly to people who have died and it would be good to be able to do so .
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@reinaldoverdu ·
hi @pedrobrito2004

It is impressive at the levels that technology and AI can take us. In that sense it scares me even and being conservative I see an ethical and moral dilemma in the use of AI in these scenarios, I believe that living or reliving these moments can also create serious emotional and psychological damage, so here is the dilemma. It all depends on each am well those AIs have been programmed. In short, it is amazing and at the same time scary.

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@pedrobrito2004 ·
In this case, Virtual Reality technology is being used as part of a treatment, I believe. Certainly all things have their own danger, after all, even the poison in certain doses is medicine, but if you do not have proper supervision, a medicine may become a poison.
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