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HIVE Rewards in Future, Dev talk, HBD Savings, and More .:. Recap of Hive Humpday Hangout SE #13 (February 26, 2025) by ph1102

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HIVE Rewards in Future, Dev talk, HBD Savings, and More .:. Recap of Hive Humpday Hangout SE #13 (February 26, 2025)
I told you that you should attend these "Special Edition" shows... Now you missed a lot of fun and there is no recording for this type of #HHHLive! It is lost forever, and locked in the brains of those who attended it... 😃 And we had a nice participation and covered many different topics!

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Sometimes, people are too shy to talk, and even if this edition is "freestyle", despite being eager to ask questions, it's hard to start the ball rolling... Luckily, we had a few interesting comments at the [announcement post for the show](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/casual-talks-in-uncertain-times) and that served well as a "topic-opener"! Speaking of announcement posts, it's hard to do them for Special Edition shows as there is no specific topic, but if I don't do it, then people won't know if it will be held... The previous time I didn't do the announcement post and we had just a few Hivians... In conclusion, I have to do them... 😃

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So, the first topic was a reflection on the comment by @davideownzall, where he said:
> It would be cool to talk about what will happen in the future with the slow cut in hive rewards over the years (I can't find the article but like by 2035 or something rewards for blogging will be tiny)

We discussed that and compared it with BTC, or other blockchains where is a similar situation and you can see the inflation going down... As the scarcity is higher, the token value goes up... Of course, if there are fundamentals around the chain... On the other side, inflation is lower, and fewer rewards are distributed, which means that it is harder to acquire new tokens! A good reminder for those who think that it would be easier to buy tokens in a year or two, or more... 

@jza came on the microphone sharing his view on inflation as a part of the "game"... He also shared his view of HIVE as a stablecoin, as it occasionally doesn't follow other cryptos... In the meantime, @felixxx compared HIVE with faucets, as it looks so easy to accumulate tokens nowadays, but that doesn't mean it will be in the future!

He asked a question about the HBD savings APR, so we dwelled into discussion about that too... How it was at 20%, chasing the APR of collapsed LUNA, how it was changed to 15%, and how it can be changed in the future...

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We had a long development talk about many things... Starting with innovation, adding features to the second layer, building apps on top of the chain... How HIVE needs more documentation, if we want to attract mode developers from the outside... Maybe AI can help us with documentation?

@jza shared his experience from other chains where they would record themselves coding stuff, sharing more tutorials, and small scripts... Just short titbits that can show the HIVE potential... @nathalie-s mentioned that @borniet is doing some development on HIVE, so we called him out, but he was busy "developing" spaghetti... 😂 Jokes aside, he has just begun with coding, and we wish him all the luck in that! 

Speaking of calling out, when @achim03 appeared in the audience, I had to call him on the mic to share his story about the faucets as we mentioned him at the beginning... He was running some faucets and shared the story with us... How tiny those tokens looked a few years ago and how big some of them grew!

We changed topics many times, going from a talk about Dan Larimer to a talk about surviving some harsh market conditions like the one we have these days... @felixxx even came up with the main "survival" rules:

> 1. Only buy things YOU UNDERSTAND
> 2. Only sell, when you are sure that you can buy it back for cheaper later

I was free to add an additional rule to these two:

> Do not invest more than you can afford to lose... 

It is the old one, but I didn't hear it lately and it shouldn't be forgotten!

For the end of the show, @foxkoit promised that he would come in voice when HIVE reached $1! It is now written in the chain, just for the record! 😃

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There is no recording of these Special Edition shows, but if you would like to participate, you are always welcome to come and have fun with us... Nobody is forced to talk, so even if you are shy and quiet, you can listen and write in the chat!

This time we had 20 participants (including myself)... Thanks, @achim03, @akrros, @borniet, @bulkathos, @duskobgd, @felixxx, @foxkoit, @incublus, @jishan5, @jza, @melinda010100, @mypathtofire, @nathalie-s, @osomar357, @palomap3, @pea07, @sacra97, @sahi1, and @seckorama! Thanks everyone for participating!!!

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*Thank you, guys and girls, once again! As a sign of appreciation, I will send some LEN tokens to all participants of the live show! You can pair them with LENM tokens, add liquidity to the diesel pool, and earn rewards! If you want to learn more about the project behind it, check out the @liotes account or visit the [Liotes website](https://liotes.com/)... Of course, if you are not interested in it, you can sell tokens on the Hive-Engine market...*

*To encourage more people to come on the mic, I have sent an additional 100 Ecency POINTS to people who shared their thoughts in voice with us (this time we had 4 participants in voice)! So POINTS are going to @felixxx, @jza, @achim03, and @borniet!*

**Special thanks goes to @melinda010100 and @good-karma for providing the space for the event!**

Thank you for your time,
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**Check out these links to the previous shows:**

| **Episode Number** | **Title**                                                                                               | **Link**                                                                                        |
|--------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| 39                 | Apis Hive! What It Is, How It Works? Talk with @LivingUKTaiwan                                                           | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/mwkdrlvwzm) |
| 38                 | Curation, Post Value, Dust, Gaming, etc.                                                           | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/zieqqepm) |
| 37                 | Hive and Crypto Plans For 2025 and Beyond!                                                           | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/mxvwpmauwa) |
| 36                 | Hive Creator Days, Graz, AT, and Hive Meetups talk with @tibfox!                                                           | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-148309/@ph1102/qkaexfpycv) |
| SE12                 | Why HIVE Pumped? 3Speak or YouTube? SEO Talk and more                                                             | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/why-hive-pumped-3speak-or) |
| SE11                 | Pump and Dump Discussion, Hive is an Opportunity Creator, etc.                                                             | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/pump-and-dump-discussion-hive) |
| 35                 | (Im)Balance Between Crypto and Fiat                                                             | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/lpkrtcpuza) |
| SE10               | ValuePlan Discussion, Funding Startups, Games on Hive, etc.                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/valueplan-discussion-funding-startups-games) |
| 34                 | The Magical Kingdom! Talk with @hallmann!                                                             | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-189306/@ph1102/the-magical-kingdom-recap-of) |
| 33                 | How Do YOU Vote For Hive Witnesses?                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-189306/@ph1102/how-do-you-vote-for) |
| 32                 | To Delegate HivePower or Not?                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-189306/@ph1102/to-delegate-hivepower-or-not) |
| SE09               | 3Speak issues and Discussion, Gambling Apps on Hive, Taxes, etc.                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/3speak-issues-and-discussion-gambling) |
| 31                 | Quiz Time!!! - HHHLive 1st Anniversary                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/quiz-time-recap-of-hive) |
| 30                 | How HIVE Changes Lives                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-189306/@ph1102/how-hive-changes-lives-recap) |
| 29                 | HiveFest9, Impressions by @ninaeatshere, @achim03, and others                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/zrprbsdemb) |
| 28                 | How Do We Spend Our Crypto?                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/ifsolgwkgd) |
| SE08               | The Gang is Back, Breaking the Limits                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/the-gang-is-back-breaking) |
| SE07               | Ecency Waves, HivePower, Splinterlands, HiveFest, LPs, and more!                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/ecency-waves-hivepower-splinterlands-hivefest) |
| 27                 | How Hive Proposals Work?                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/esfrorsvvb) |
| 26                 | Content Creation Experiences                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/tthaxtqebw) |
| SE06               | Education, Traveling Ecency Spoilers, Hive elephants...                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/the-longest-show-ever-recap) |
| 25                 | Why Did the Hive Price Drop?                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/kyjfwtqkqn) |
| 24                 | What Do We Expect From Hive and Crypto!                                                              | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-189306/@ph1102/flsqnmucmu) |
| 23                 | Aachen Meetup and WorldMapPin Talk With @detlev!                                                        | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-189306/@ph1102/vwkodsogtk) |
| SE05               | Usernames Origins, Age, Early Retirement, Crypto Portfolio, and more...                                 | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/usernames-origins-age-early-retirement) |
| 22                 | Helping Hive to Thrive                                                                                  | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/bzxjifuebv) |
| 21                 | Make Yourself Uncomfortable (on Hive!)                                                                  | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/lqzdmrmyaj) |
| 20                 | First Excursions Out of the Comfort Zone                                                                | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/ytbhfbervq) |
| SE04               | BuzzParty Impressions, Weekly Recap, Bonfire                                                            | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/buzzparty-impressions-weekly-recap-bonfire) |
| 19                 | Ways To Buy/Sell Hive!                                                                                  | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/gtdrqhuaiu) |
| SE03               | Foods, Crypto Research, Education, Predictions                                                          | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/foods-crypto-research-education-predictions) |
| 18                 | Best Tools For Content Creation                                                                         | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-153850/@ph1102/bntqvwqbes) |
| 17                 | Consistency and Adding Value                                                                            | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/himfaxxpfw) |
| SE02               | After Show Show                                                                                         | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/after-show-show-recap-of) |
| 16                 | CBRS Philanthropy Chat With @minigunner!                                                                | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/yobmhcxfrl) |
| 15                 | Profit Taking Planning                                                                                  | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/ardnveunfh) |
| 14                 | Ecency/Hive Chat With @good-karma!                                                                      | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/wnlafckgcl) |
| SE01               | Relaxed "Exclusive" Session                                                                             | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/relaxed-exclusive-session-recap-of) |
| 13                 | Writer's Block and How To Overcome It                                                                   | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/nngtwtcmfh) |
| 12                 | Hive-Engine Tokens                                                                                      | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/olidygljqs) |
| 11                 | Hive Guidelines for Newbies                                                                             | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/gbnakfzlfo) |
| 10                 | NY Resolutions and Creating Hive Goals                                                                  | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/ffqppxtfgj) |
| 9                  | How Was Your (HIVE) 2023?                                                                               | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/ghtwhiwrgf) |
| 8                  | Presenta tu comunidad - ES/EN Show! - Part 2                                                            | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/vyraklhckv) |
| 7                  | Present Your Community - Part 1                                                                         | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/tpodzzzx) |
| 6                  | How to Start on Hive?                                                                                   | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/szdoqdeg) |
| 5                  | Do You Upvote Quality Posts?                                                                            | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/mqmaiwwa) |
| 4                  | Genuine? Authentic? To be or not to be?                                                                 | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/umvpgcyd) |
| 3                  | Hive Power, HP Delegation, HivePUD...                                                                   | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/aabffnzn) |
| 2                  | Hive Meetups, HiveFest, HiveBeeCon                                                                      | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/ieivsmrb) |
| 1                  | Pilot Episode (Aired 2023-10-18) - The Vision                                                           | [Link](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@ph1102/the-vision-hive-humpday-hangout) |

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@borniet ·
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Thank you for this great recap of the show! Was fun rereading it, as I missed parts due to Developing Spaghetti ;-)
Small correction (mostly for my ego :-D ): I've been in software development for decades already, but only just started developing on Hive :-) And a little more on the what: bots :-) BBHBot, Alive Bot, Gifu Bot, Indeedly Bot ;-)
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@ph1102 · 
Oh, so you are the creator of those bots? Interesting... 
At least I know where to ask if we want to do something similar on Liotes... 😉

Thanks for eating Spaghetti in live! 😂
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@borniet ·
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lol!!! You're welcome! :-) Not sure yet what I'll be making and eating during next show ;-) (which is actually the reason why I never attended before, bad timing ;-) )
Always welcome if you want a similar bot for Liotes ;-) I'm constantly trying out new things and adding new features to these bots, and am also always open to requests for new stuff :-)
Do you like these bots as they currently are?
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@davideownzall ·
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Oh I'm glad I gave some idea for a discussion 😊

Hbd apr can be changed even to 0% if top20 witnesses sets that I think
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@borniet · 
Indeed, it could... But it could also be set to 35%
The reason they lowered it from 20 to 15% is in order to not attract people who only use Hive as a high interest savings account, without bringing anything useful to the blockchain. They have a point there, although I liked the 20% as well ;-)
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@davideownzall · 
Eheh 20% was a very nice deal 😅

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@herman-german · 
To avoid that ppl add Hive to the HBD savings forsavings only is that you can add only rewarded Hive to the savings 😉

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@ph1102 · 
Thanks for that comment... It was a nice show Kickstarter... 
It can be changed, but I wouldn't go higher as it is... We will see... The "big boys" will decide... 😃
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@davideownzall ·
$0.03
Haha yea, I'm voting for good witnesses with 20% apr proposed maintime 😅
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@foxkoit ·
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But what happens when HIVE no longer move on  one dollar? :))  And 70 cent was the top . 🫣🫣🫣
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@borniet · 
It's always a gamble of course, no certainty ever... but I'm also hoping for >1$ Hive, or even more... I think it has the possibility, but maybe not just like that, it would require some stabilizations and additions as well. 
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@ph1102 · 
NOthing changes... You will not speak in the show like you didn't speak until now... 😂
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@gatet ·
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Lots of interesting topics. If Hive becomes more scarce that should help improve its price and attract more attention from the global community.
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@ph1102 · 
It should work like that... And, tbh, I would like to see happening... I suppose, everyone would... 😃
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@jfang003 ·
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@jfang003 "It sounds like an interesting show. The inflation ..."
It sounds like an interesting show. The inflation issue is an interesting issue for Hive. I guess we should just continue to add to our stacks before the scarcity happens.
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@ph1102 · 
I wouldn't say it's an issue... It would be if inflation would grow... 😃
I like it as it is and I hope it will not be changed...
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@libertycrypto27 ·
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@tipu curate
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@ph1102 · 
Thanks for your curation! Always appreciated! 💜
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@tipu · 
<a href="https://tipu.online/hive_curator?libertycrypto27" target="_blank">Upvoted  &#128076;</a> (Mana: 0/48) <a href="https://peakd.com/hive/@reward.app/reward-app-quick-guide-updated" target="_blank">Liquid rewards</a>.
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@pizzabot · (edited)
RE: HIVE Rewards in Future, Dev talk, HBD Savings, and More .:. Recap of Hive Humpday Hangout SE #13 (February 26, 2025)
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@relf87 ·
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> For the end of the show, @foxkoit promised that he would come in voice when HIVE reached $1! It is now written in the chain, just for the record!

Looking forward to this!!! Haha. Because it will happen for sure! (NFA lol)

😂

!LUV
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@ph1102 · 
We will see if it would or not, but it would be an ice-breaker for sure! 😂
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@sahi1 ·
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I had a lot of fun and I will try to join the next show also 🙂
!LUV
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