RE: A few thoughts... by pharesim

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hive · @pharesim · Jul 25 '24

$2.60

I know that you asked several people to unvote me. Liar. 

Also, why should I repeat the criticism of the proposal that many people have brought forward, and they all were ignored? If you wanted to work in a constructive way, the proposal would have been updated with a clear plan how the money will be spent instead of you using your contacts to big stakeholders to punish someone who doesn't do what you want. Then we all could've made an informed decision if we support the plan.

👍 azircon, blocktrades, pharesim, fatman, enginewitty, bilpcoinbpc, sircork, bronko, projectdignity, voter002, msp-foundation

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@aggroed · Jul 25 '24

Unvote comment- I should clarify that there were multiple people that acted entirely of their own accord and I made a handful of requests.  The statement as it reads is true, but doesn't include the other part, which I've done here.

Repeat the criticism- a short line about you concurring with someone else would be great as it conveys the concern without much work on your part.  It's a reality of stakeweighted dpos that you have asymetric considerations of accounts expressing concerns.

Big stakeholders to punish- I contend that voting your stake how you think it ought to be used is a fundamental aspect of this chain.  you can vote the proposal.  others can downvote posts or alter witness votes.  that's been fair game as long as I've been here.

Hindsight I could have paused to ask why you were downvoting the second the proposal passed, but at the time it definitely felt like you were attacking this project.  Sorry I escalated quickly.

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@pharesim · Jul 25 '24

> a short line about you concurring with someone else would be great as it conveys the concern without much work on your part. It's a reality of stakeweighted dpos that you have asymetric considerations of accounts expressing concerns.

Just because someone doesn't have a big stake, their concerns aren't less valid. Just shows how you are used to backroom deals and using your stake to blackmail and bribe. 
I followed the public discussion, and wasn't satisfied by the replies. That's your fault

>  you can vote the proposal. others can downvote posts or alter witness votes.

And that you conflate the different types of votes, and think using one to enforce another, doesn't make you look good either. 

Maybe you should just be quiet and meditate a bit.

👍 sircork

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@femisapiens · Jul 26 '24

I would like to rebut the idea that 

"Just because someone doesn't have a big stake, their concerns aren't less valid."

I have been trying to reach out to senior Hivers in a professional way for over 6 months and have repeatedly been ignored or just been told that my ideas don't count cos i only have 70hp.

Hive is not at all welcoming to people that do not have big stakes and it is missing out on good inpuit because of this.

We all need to do better abnde I would like to ask you to set a good example....

👎 digital-fortress, freebornsociety

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@azircon · Jul 25 '24 (edited)

$0.34

A plan for the funding have been published

https://peakd.com/splinterlands/@splinterlands/splinterlands-dhf-proposal-follow-up

Regarding personal interactions; I think you have room to improve yourself, just like aggy does. This morning the way you have treated me, your friend for 6 years, is probably something that needs improvement. 

No matter the outcome of any proposal or witness votes, we are human. I want to be treated as one. I don't think you did that this morning.

For the record. I have no witness, I do not own any project, and I don't care what happens to my investment. None of my interactions were driven by that. And yet, since I didn't agree with you on this, you have mistreated me. 

Now I get mistreated all the time, it is not an issue; but coming from a friend and for no aparent reason; it hurts more.

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@pharesim · Jul 25 '24

$0.66

> A plan for the funding have been published

One hour ago. A little late, don't you agree? 


You told me this would be the consequences of my actions. If you're okay with voting according to my values having negative consequences in a unrelated matter, I misjudged you all this time. Good to finally see your hypocrisy.

👍 azircon, yozen

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@azircon · Jul 25 '24

Yes. Late for sure. By 8 days?

Proposal have many months left. I have seen numerous funded proposals without a cost breakdown. There are many currently on the docket.

None of my action has anything to do with vote. No one asked me to vote this or that. I said even if they did to me (which nobody did) it would be fine. Because people lobby for a cause all the time.

I have asked people to vote. You have asked people to vote. There are things we agree, there are things we don't agree. There is no need to any drama.

What I said to you, I stand by it. As a human, all our actions have consequences. Yours have too. This is a life advise and this is also a fact. I stand by my comment. Fortunately, I can share my thought in public, the language that you have used against me this morning, you will be ashamed to repeat.

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@moeknows · Jul 25 '24

I just feel like there's an opportunity here for better language. There's a bridge here that's worth being built, and disrespect is the biggest barrier to it. Let's try to get on the same page.

👍 the10legmulti

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