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[Bounty] Community bounty for open source GPU miner.
# Community bounty
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### Why?
As it stands right now, there are two primary miners dominating the miner queue. 
* rabbit
* gxt-1080-sc

They have made normal CPU mining absolutely impractical for many miners, and in the process, centralized mining. This is not a huge issue for the stability of  the steem blockchain itself, but it has made many miners in the community feel uneasy. It is for this reason that today I am hosting a community bounty for an open source GPU. This bounty will serve an incentive for any existing gpu miners to open source there mining software. It will also serve to as incentive for new gpu miners to come out. 

### How?
I am asking anyone reading this to donate some SBD to the bounty. To increase the bounty, please send any amount SBD to @picokernel with either a memo mentioning the bounty, or a comment in the thread. I will then act as the escrow. If you have created an open source miner I ask that you submit a link to it to me in private message on slack or rocketchat, or post down below in the comments a link to the source code. 
50% of all the bounty will be given to an openCL/AMD miner, and 50% will be given to a Cuda miner. In addition to that, all SBDs generated from this post will increase the bounty.  

# Win condition

Any GPU miner submission is eligible for the bounty prize if it meets the following conditions: 1) it supports ECDSA operations in the GPU kernel; 2) it is licensed with a copy-free license (e.g. MIT, BSD); 3) it is not simply a derivation of an earlier submitted GPU miner perhaps with some performance optimizations; 4) it is submitted no later than 2 weeks after the first eligible GPU miner submission. All eligible GPU miners submitted within the two week window are ranked according to the following rules: if one GPU miner has better performance (within some prior specified margin of error) according to mining benchmarks compared to another GPU miner, the faster one is ranked higher; and, if the performance of two GPU miners are close enough to each other within the margin of error, the earlier submission will be ranked higher. If there is only one eligible GPU miner submission on the ranked list, the submitter of that GPU miner will win the full bounty prize. Otherwise, the submitters of the top two ranked GPU miners will share the bounty prize: 75% goes to the submitter of the rank 1 GPU miner submission, and 25% goes to the submitter of the rank 2 GPU miner submission. 

Thank you folks. This is a good cause to help decrease centralization and increase the health of the steem platform.  If you have any questions or concerns you can get in contact with me on steemit.chat.  #bounties will be where I post updates about how we are managing the funds and who the winners are.

### Current Bounty: $3200 SBD
 @smooth is donating $1000 SBD
@riverhead is donating $1000 SBD
@complexring is donating $250 SBD
@pharesim is donating $250 SBD
@arhag is donating $200 SBD
@carlidos is donating $200 SBD
@picokernel is donating $150 SBD
@liondani is donating $100 SBD
@knozaki2015 is donating $50 SBD
 

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@b0y2k · 
https://github.com/steemit/steem/issues/341
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@steevc · 
Is it certain people are using GPU or do they just have access to a lot of fast PCs? I don't know enough about the algorithm or GPU computing to judge what is possible. I have tried mining on my PC, but it's not especially fast and won't be on 24/7, so I don't really expect to get anything. Just wanted to to try it. 

I just hope it doesn't turn out like Bitcoin where you need massive investment to get anything.
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@carlidos · (edited)
Ohh yea I have a handful of r9 295 x laying around I would also like to donate!  I didn't see a ending time is this on going till some one finds a way?!! That would be something good for steem.  I would also be donating $200 SBD, I would donate more once my psych posts keep increasing I'm in for mining hits home for me.
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@picokernel · 
Thanks man! I will put you down.
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@cats · 
I would feel myself more uneasy if there will be GPU miner for all.
Now I have additional  gain using CPU. After GPU miner there will no sense in CPU mining.
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@clayboyn · (edited)
I would be open to donating, but my concerns are the real necessity of steem being GPU mineable and last I checked there was still no easy way to run a witness unless you run linux.  My rigs are all linux for obvious reasons, but I prefer Windows user experience and compatibility.  I think it was Sia or LBRC that was only mac mineable for a long time.  Regardless as someone that does a ton of mining on a daily basis, do you really want to further devalue steem through profit mining GPU dumps?  I would be more inclined to donate to changing the algo to HODL or Scrypt^2 than to promote mining more steem faster.  We need less steem hitting the market so the price can recover.  Either way good luck, if I feel it's worthwhile I'll consider chipping in some coin.
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@bluehorseshoe · 
I completely agree and have thought the same thing in regards to changing the algo to HODL which I've experienced since March, it's a good platform.
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@smooth ·
$0.49
The amount of Steem mined per day is not affected by the algorithm or hardware used.
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@clayboyn ·
$0.47
Interesting, so basically people are just mining for higher percentage?
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@thecryptofiend · 
I think you misunderstand how it works.  The amount of Steem produced per day is fixed.  I would suggest reading the white paper.
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@complexring ·
$0.03
Donating 250 SBD at a later point.
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@complexring · 
I will also vouch for the legitimacy of this bounty.  Feel free to donate.
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@teamsteem · 
Awesome! This is a appreciate and I think a thoughtful pledge.
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@crazyearner · 
The 2 dominating are not going to release their code or miner. Is no doubt going to be someone else that releases it. Only time he will release when theirs next to nothing left and not profitable for anyone else is my guess.
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@cryptohead · 
I think GPU mining should be banned if you want a fair and decentralized mining queue for  Steem.
If you make "GPU Mining Pools" it will only make things worst and you end up with all the mining power in the hands of a few.  
I don't think this was the original idea for Steem
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@faddat · 
It doesn't work like that man.  

They built code that interacts with the chain in a certain, conformant way.  So, since they're within spec, they're within their rights...
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@cryptohead · 
Ok, but having the POW queue being dominated by 2 individuals is not the best way to secure the blockchain.
Some code changes could be done to make it more decentralized and just.
If this issue is not handled, then I will shut down my nodes and look for other uses for my hardware and connections.
I might just as well post cat photos and get more incentives than competing against rabbit and gxt-1080 for a place in the POW queue.
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@faddat · 
It doesn't work like that man.  

They built code that interacts with the chain in a certain, conformant way.  So, since they're within spec, they're within their rights...
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@djm34 · (edited)
quite frankly I don't believe these are gpu miners...  but hey I can be wrong
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@gtg ·
$0.04
@djm34 if you don't trust @picokernel (no need to) you are free to make your own statement that you would send some amount directly to a winner. Anyway as you can see in comments, @complexring, well known and reputable witness already said to donate his 250 SBD as a part of the bounty.
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@complexring · 
I don't see where @djm34 said that he doesn't trust @picokernel.  That is a rather harsh accusation when all this user has done is stated he doesn't believe they are gpu miners.  I see nothing else in his comment beyond that.
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@djm34 · (edited)
actually I won't send, however I expect to receive... lol (as you can see wanting to know  who is who is a totally legitimate question...)
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@liondani · (edited)
supercomputer (sc) has revealed himself on #mining channel at steemitchat.com (the guy that hacked pow1 and was dominating the mining list a couple of days until the hardfork) He is @nobody on steemitchat and is known now as the gxt-1080-sc-XXXX miner. He confessed he is using a GPU miner and he has one competitor( @djm34 )?. He said that at some point (due competitions) it will be more profitable for one of them  to reveal the code for a bounty....

PS https://steemit.com/steem/@arcange/the-end-of-steem-cpu-mining
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@liondani · (edited)
$0.47
https://s11.postimg.io/w7crzyjg3/Screenshot_from_2016_08_31_13_16_22.png

from https://steemit.chat/channel/mining
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@picokernel · (edited)
$0.04
@djm34 
1) I am not personally sure they are GPU miners either, I simply stated they have made typical cpu mining unrealistic 
2)  I am very active in the steemit.chat and I have connections to a lot of influential people in the community, I understand your concern. I would like to remind you I have stake in the platform as well. There is no reason you should trust me but I think if you contact users like complexring, pharism, or arhag they would vouch for me. I promise you that I will escrow in the interest of the community. We are talking right now about setting up a multisig for this bounty as well. I will keep you updated in the future. I addition to this i just set up a #bounties chat on steemit.chat where you can follow how we are managing the funds and who wins the reward.
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@smooth · 
I think people are actually a bit spoiled on this coin because the difficulty was relatively low and price relatively high for a long time, making mining easy. Now it is harder, but CPU mining really is still viable. You just need decent hardware (i.e. not a 5 year old laptop) a bit of patience and not expect to be getting lots of blocks every day.

Nevertheless I still support the goals of an open source GPU miner if GPU mining is viable at all.
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@smooth ·
$0.47
You may be right, but does it matter? Some believe that GPU mining is practical. If so, most of the goals of mining, especially on this platform (where raw hash rate and an arms race contributes to security only to a small degree),  are best achieved by having low barriers to entry and wide availability i.e  open source miners.
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@donchate · 
Somehow I doubt open source is going to be the route taken for anyone out there capable of developing a GPU miner for this. Look at the success of Claymore for ETH/SC/DECRED most recently.
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@djm34 · 
depends a bit on how generous are the donation and how much more you could get (and in which time) through fee mining. Since the number of coin which can be mined is fixed...
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@faraz · 
Nice post and sharing @picokernel
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@picokernel · 
Thanks!
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@gekko · 
waiting for that, keep it up! 8]
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@halo · (edited)
Upvoted and followed, please let me know if anyone gets an amd gpu miner. I will also be donating for the cause.
💋 @halo 💋😇
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@knozaki2015 · 
I am in with 50sbd too!
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@picokernel · 
Thanks! I will put you down.
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@knozaki2015 · 
already sent you the sbd !
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@liondani ·
$0.49
I will donate minimum $100 SBD to the bounty.
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@picokernel · 
Thanks man I will put you down!
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@liondani · 
Update my contribution and double it to $200 SBD please. Thanks.
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@melek · 
thanks, for setting this up we really need it.
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@picokernel · 
You're welcome
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@rampant · 
I'm not really sure why mining should really even be a "thing".  It's always occured to me as an idiotic use of compute resources and electricity.
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@djm34 · (edited)
so how do you think coin are made ?
and how do you think a p2p network exists if no one mine ? (and actually you make money out of mining... yeah see not entirely idiotic)
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@rampant · 
That this is how people try and make money IS idiotic. Bitcoin was set up to require mining.  But blockchains don't require mining intrinsically.  The witnesses handle most of operations.  It's not a true p2p network like bitcoin.
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@smooth · 
I'll pledge 1000 SBD toward the bounty.  If there is a specific credible proposal from a developer I'd consider pledging additional funds toward that proposal.
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@teamsteem · 
Awesome! This is a appreciate and I think a thoughtful pledge.
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@stephenfrost · 
I stopped CPU mining  operations due to the issues created by the mentioned users. CPU is completely impractical now. Realistically the devs need to either change the algo again to close off GPU operations, or make a GPU code openly available, though this option then opens up the opportunity for switching out operating code on Bitcoin miners potentially, thus meaning bitcoin farms could just re-purpose almost overnight and kill it in that way. At the moment though miners are losing interest because of the zero rate of accrual. If we have two miners dominating the whole thing for too long it could well kill Steem.
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@team101 · 
Sounds like a good idea.
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@thecryptofiend · 
Thank you.  It was not profitable to mine even before but the main reason I do it is to show my support for Steem/Steemit.  Even if it is not a security risk it just doesn't look good for community confidence if 1 or 2 people are dominating the mining queue.
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@virtualgrowth · 
Great bounty idea.
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@wisehammer · 
I would donate, but I'm too poor. :) I dont know if 0.20 sbd are enough
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