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Astrology, Numerology, Predestination And Us by practicalthought

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Astrology, Numerology, Predestination And Us
A book I read recently on systems from antiquity had several chapters devoted to astrology and numerology (as well as other studies). Reading ancient beliefs on these ideas reminded me much of the idea of predestination from the Judaic Christian belief system. An idea that really never set well with me from an early age. When I was a member of a church as a youth, the teachings were from a fundamental nature. And despite the claims that new age systems (which aren't that new as they have their roots in antiquity) such as astrology are from the devil, I had to admit the bible itself says that the stars are for signs.

> And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: (Genesis 1:14).

Without going to far into why the idea of predestination seems offensive to me, I will posit that the idea that predestination suggests there is no such thing as free will. A variation of this stance is also taken by astrology and numerology. A suggestion that we are all imprisoned by invisible forces locking us into certain paths and behaviors. 

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One of the quotes from the book says:

> Some mathematicians believe that numbers were invented by human beings. others, equally competent, believe that numbers have an independent existence of their own and are merely observed by sufficiently intelligent mortals. Quoted from The Magic of Numbers.

While it seems obvious to me that numbers would exist independent of human observation, some of the extrapolations made my learned men of antiquity doesn't sit well with me either. Such as the belief that even numbers are female and evil, odd numbers are male and good. Much like the astrological assumptions that your birth moment locks you into a path of certain choices and outcomes, numerology would suggest this to also be the case. Based on their systems (like with astrology, there are multiple disagreements on the correct structure to use), one is destined to easy or hard paths from which there is no escape. 

The defeatism of such systems would seem to create a self defeating or success catapulting road for those who would embrace such notions. The argument such a belief would demand being why bother, the outcome is preordained? The argument being our actions hold no value as they can't truly originate from our heart, will and intellect. 

Based on my observations, I reluctantly will concede that there do seem to be some characteristics that allude to the idea we are chained to certain reactions that coincide with the projections these systems predict. However, I'm unsure to what extent this might be programmed into us subtly by people whose manipulation behind the scenes of society lead us into these paths. Or, perhaps there is some truth to these structures leading our tendencies on some animistic level. 

I refuse to concede defeat to this idea that we are destined to do what we do before we even begin our journey. Refuse to concede that one can't use their will, intellect and heart to be more than their tendencies/proclivities would demand them to bow to. One of the ideas I witness many in the Christian community demonstrate is that they can act as they wish and ask for forgiveness. The idea that one can only be good enough due to the sacrifice. This defeatist attitude always offended me. It always seemed to me that if one believes God wants certain things, that one would strive to do that to the utmost of their ability. Not concede defeat because their natural condition was one of failure. The power of the cross/burden a responsibility that suggests one can rise above their natural animal/sinful nature and shine brightly.

When I have talked with other Christians who have made the claim that Jesus was the only perfect man, I always wonder if they even read the old testament. The very first sentence of Job says he was a perfect upright man. Now while I can't lay claim to being a perfect man, I can say with surety a person can choose to do the right thing. A person can choose to walk hardships today to create foundations for tomorrow. We are not slaves to some predestined path that is inescapable. 

I choose to be more than some pre-written story who is bound to being little more than a leaf at the mercy of the wind. I hope for those of you reading this, you too choose to shine brightly and refuse the shackles of predestination. Tendencies are not set in stone. Stones are worn down from constant pressure and focused action.
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@practicalthought ·
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@barncat · (edited)
It's foolish to equate "signs in the heavens" with astrology. Astrology is completely and totally untrue. Anybody who's analysed it would come to the same conclusion.

Job was a good man as far as people go but Jesus is the only one who ever lived that lived a sinless life.

We can't live good lives without the power of the Holy Spirit. Even then, we still have a sin nature that wants to be satisfied.

The Bible mentions predestination directly and indirectly.

(Ephesians 1:11 NIV)  In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,

(Romans 9:22-23 NIV)  What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath--prepared for destruction? {23} What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory--

Your actions aren't predetermined. People do what's in their hearts to do. Whether good or bad.
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@practicalthought ·
> It's foolish to equate "signs in the heavens" with astrology. 

Please explain signs for what then?

As to predestination, you do understand such a thing would negate free will? It would be like little boys playing with action figures (we being the action figures). If we were created to do or not do the actions/feelings we do, then what is there to be wrathful of? 

A side question please. Do you believe the bible to be the infallible word of God, to be taken literally?
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@jnetsworld ·
All these systems; numerology, birth signs, and faith are just pallets. The personalities are colors. Am I stubborn or determined? Private or shy? Shades of being human. We can enjoy free will and creativity AND we can also experience the predictable predestined path of whatever we believe imposed upon us. I say whatever you believe is true. All of it. If you want to change something, change what you believe. Thoughts are powerful things.

And for some, thoughts are powerful, fun things :)

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@joeyarnoldvn ·
I do love these kinds of things.
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@practicalthought ·
Then please share some of your thoughts on this. Curious what your take is on this.
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@joeyarnoldvn ·
I believe in a combination of freewill and predestination. I love the number seven. I need to study numbers more.
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