 The talk about ego death in the psychedelic community is full of varying perspectives. Some feel that the term is a misnomer while others wear it as badge. So who is right and who is wrong? Well that's not an easy question to answer as psychedelic experiences are extremely subjective. The literal meaning of ego death can be looked at a few ways. The ego- the āIā or self of any person; a person as thinking, feeling, and willing, and distinguishing itself from the selves of others and from objects of its thought.[1] Ego death- is a "complete loss of subjective self-identity". The term is used in various intertwined contexts, with related meanings. In Jungian psychology the synonymous term psychic death is used, which refers to a fundamental transformation of the psyche.[2] To some the definition might seem accurate. For others it doesn't seem to fit into describing what they themselves have experienced. Since the psychedelic experience is subjective, it make sense that this experience could be drastically different for each individual. For some, it has been described as a "bad trip" a hellish experience where they are confronted with harsh realizations about themselves. Others have described the experience as being liberating and beautiful. Losing themselves and connecting to the beauty around them. The contrast between the two examples speaks to how personal these experiences truly are. Some might say you experience what you "need" and not what you "want". As any psychonaught knows, the psychedelic experience isn't always a pleasant one. You can be confronted with your deepest secrets or your worst fears. What does this experience do to the person afterwards? Are they a better person for having experienced this? From my observations, an "ego death" experience can be a humbling one and turn an egomaniac into more pleasant person as many claim. A person can have a new respect for life and see the beauty in things unnoticed before. What's not talked about as much, is how some can become extremely egotistical after having the experience. Anyone that is involved in the psychedelic community has most likely encounterd these types.  What type of experience a person has during ego death doesn't seem to correlate with what type of change happens to the person afterwards. The changes in a persons personality are not always apparent and an ego death experience doesn't change a person at all in some cases. It seems that if a person has a solid understanding of self going into an ego death experience they are less likely to change. A person who is trying to find themselves may not like what they see and use the experience to build a new sense of self.  A healthy ego goes along way and one shouldn't try to "kill it". Having a healthy ego is good for your mental and physical health. Having an ego death experience can provide the self reflection needed to create positive change. If you are seeking an ego death experience, just remember to have clear intentions on what your trying to get out of it. Write down who you think you are beforehand and compare it to your sense of self afterwards. Ego death can be an easy way to bring positive change to your life, just remember it doesn't always happen when you want it. Be brave and stay humble āļø Image: Narcissus (1590s) by Caravaggio (Galleria Nazionale d'Arte Antica, Rome) [1] http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ego [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_death
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Ego death is the ancient initiation that is known as spiritual death and rebirth. All humans can experience it and according to the teachings, you CAN change your personality from it but that does not mean you WILL. Maintaining the state of ego death for more than a few seconds on regular dosages is near impossible without proper training and guidance. Most that take higher doses and experience it have no memory of it and also go into hallucinatory states, which appears as complete psychosis until they come down.
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Love this. I hate the term <i>"ego-death"</i> personally. I always say that if that occurs you commit partial suicide. Ego is just 1 small part of ones whole being. Without it your not complete anymore. The key is accepting and finding a balance. There is no part inside of one's being, that should rule; They all rule and they all follow. Sometimes you need 1 part more than the other, but it cannot work without the others. I think we need to set a new term for it. <i>Because there is nothing wrong with a healthy bit of ego.</i> By calling it <i>ego-death</i> and advocate it like that, you almost say that it is a "sin" to love yourself and stand behind certain choices you make. You need your ego to know yourself and to sometimes stand tall. It may not rule your everyday movements, but without you might as well lock yourself up in a small room without windows. The experience stays the same, but we have to admit we have evolved since the time that people like McKenna and Leary ruled the scene. They were onto something and have paved the road for us all. But we must not get stuck in ideas and names that are not really fitting the bill anymore. <i><b>Ego-balance, Ego-humbling, Ego-acceptance.... </b></i> Just a few examples that makes it less harsh, more appealing to new psychonauts and less egocentric save travels and stay egohumble :D
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I agree, we should bring it to the group and see what would be a better term that describes the experience. I'm sure some great ideas would pop up and it would be entertaining to say the least.
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I don't agree and know that the term DEATH describes it perfectly for a reason. The ancient books of the dead are about ego death. Learn from the book and study the teachings and then see what you have to say about it. Many want to put their own idea onto it and say it is something other than what it is... doing it and studying it is not for everyone.
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cool idea. I start working on it!! "<b><i> Death to the "ego-death" </i></b>
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