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trading · @quickfingersluc · Aug 4 '17

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Splitting cold wallets and trading BitcoinCash + Coinbase has issued an update

Morning all,

Long night for me.. I just want to update you all on how Im trading BitcoinCash and whats how the market is reacting to the slow block time..


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## Coinomi instructions: 
https://medium.com/@coinomi/collecting-your-free-bitcoin-cash-coins-44fcc6008bb6

## Coinomi app at google play: 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.coinomi.wallet

## Coinbase update:
https://blog.coinbase.com/update-on-bitcoin-cash-8a67a7e8dbdf

Please post comments with any Bitcoin Cash news that you hear. The price of Bitcoin Cash is very news sensitive right now. Let's keep each other informed.

Luc

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@adamsmith1980 · Aug 8 '17

Hey Luc, just wanted to share a successful trade I made using your method. I set an alert for when price cracked the base and waited until I got alert. Bought in the morning and set a sell limit right away. First one for me!

![Screen Shot 2017-08-08 at 8.02.39 PM.png](https://steemitimages.com/DQmWiZKNgo9y9bBF71jPsvNq1kp4msGS49nXAm4NiimxV1D/Screen%20Shot%202017-08-08%20at%208.02.39%20PM.png)

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@turi · Aug 9 '17

While the method works most of the times, it can fail from time to time; so, good that you made profit, but buying something that fell 4%  and using Luc's method is quite risky. Before you buy you want to see a big drop, especially for smaller coins! Things can drop 50% or more, so if you buy after a 5% drop (with a 5% expected return), you'll get into trouble when one such trade fails, burning the profit of tens of such trades!

👍 adamsmith1980

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@amaralluis · Aug 7 '17

Hey Luc, Thank you for your videos, I am learning alot about cryptotrading.

How do you do your trades? Do you stick to the pair or do you switch between coins?
For example if you buy Ethereum with bitcoin do you then sell it back to bitcoin at a profit or will you trade it to something else (like USD)?

I have noticed on some of the coins that I have in my portfolio that I bought with bitcoin that the value of bitcoin keeps going down but up against USD so it made me think that perhaps I could sell the coin to USD instead of waiting for the price of bitcoin to go up higher than I bought to make a profit.
The problem is to know by doing this how do I know selling it this way its at a profit? 
So I was wondering if you do this and if yes do you have some sort of strategy in place that ensures you are getting a profit?

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@oneluckyflip · Aug 8 '17

For me, this comes with experience and you have to actually get out there and do trades yourself.  You are on the right track tho that observing the  price or demand shifts and how each coin or USD gets affected.  Studying the coin's chart and history will help you buy and sell at the right moments.  Right now, I have sold some of my BTC for USD at $3400/coin since btc has risen so fast, but more importantly chart history says btc will likely fall hard again.  I could then use the USD to buy coins lower, and now I'll have more coins.
Even though this answer isn't from Luc, I hope this helps.....I want to contribute from time to time since Luc has helped me on my crypto trading ventures.

👍 amaralluis

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@aztecsurf · Aug 5 '17

Such a fun day to trade! OMG/ETH is crazy! ETH/USD trading is moving quick. Lots of opportunities to make small profits on the chaos..

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@leontheorange · Aug 5 '17

yeah

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@btcunbranded · Aug 4 '17

Tone Vays has his finger on the pulse of BitcoinCash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYlE2wH1BeM

👍 tizzle

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@btcunbranded · Aug 4 '17

$0.83

https://twitter.com/ToneVays/status/893466458554085376

Bittrex has opened BCC deposits.
BCC DUMPING after every Block Mined!

👍 thing-2

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 4 '17

it's the perfect storm.. everyone trying to sell, but unable to move there free coins... it's like a rat race to hit the sell button, only you have to wait many hours to move it to the exchanges.. Im ready to buy into big down spikes when they happen...

👍 ladycat, metafzx, hawkmasteruk, thecorempire, crypto6ull, knicknack, nipuna

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@tizzle · Aug 4 '17

For most of your followers the question remains: how do we know when its profitable to buy on a downspike via daytrading on a chart like BCC which appears to be heading down down down down down?  Your position trade method is very logical, but day trading with a coin such as BCC  doesn't share the same obvious traits @quickfingerluc.  Help?

👍 hawkmasteruk

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@szchrist422 · Aug 4 '17

Thanks.  Good info here.  I just subscribed to their channel.

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@cdfreak · Aug 6 '17

Ik dont no if the methode stil works, al alt coins are only going down, down, down and no bounce up OR little ones. Had siacoin and etc buth only lossing on them becouse the only going down.... When Bitcoin crash alts go down when Bitcoin gose up alts go down, dosnt make any sense...

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@leontheorange · Aug 6 '17

calm down, on sunday,coins drop is normal (lack of thickness of arguement)

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@coinmangler · Aug 4 '17

Hi @quickfingersluc, @allyourbase11 made a slack group for people to chat, share charts and talk about bases. We're not asking you to join because we know you're busy, but it would be great if you could mention the Slack in a blog post so more people see about it and join.

https://join.slack.com/t/quickfingerstraders/shared_invite/MjIyNDkzMDk4MzU4LTE1MDE3NTM5ODctOTA0NTNiZTc1OQ

Thanks again for sharing your strategies with us!

👍 ladycat, trdr, gustavo-ar, johnmerced, comeandtakeit, awakenomad

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@aaronstpierre · Aug 4 '17

Thanks for setting this channel up!

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@coinmangler · Aug 4 '17

wasn't me... thank allyourbase. i just want to help bring eyes to it.

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@lemaocarvalh0 · Aug 5 '17

I will join if slack let me... forever loading :(

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 4 '17

$0.02

Sure, I will come check out your room in the next few days.. Does a slack room have moderators? While I like the idea, I don't think there is enough action, during the day to keep a room active..  This market is soo small that I have no trouble keeping up with the opportunities.. I bearly take 3-5 trades a day most days in crypto.. whereas in the stockmarket there are thousands of stocks bouncing around.. Just OTCBB stocks alone have over 10,000 stocks.. Meanwhile Bittrex list 255 coins..So you can see how our little market is still quite small, dont get me wrong, there are plenty of opportunities trading crypto, and you can easily make a good living trading only this market, but it might be a little slow for a chatroom..

👍 ladycat, metafzx, leontheorange, theseifer2400, rockmeetocean, awakenomad, hawkmasteruk, thecorempire, knicknack, nipuna

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@allyourbase11 · Aug 5 '17

Its been pretty boss so far. Let me know if you join, I'll make you an owner

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@cryptillionaire · Aug 6 '17

Maybe a telegram group? We can discuss trading and investing.  I'm in a really constructive group already, search "ride to the moon" on telegram. Also "the coin farm" is good as well. Happy trading and investing!

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@jerryl18 · Aug 7 '17

Hi Luc and anyone one else here who could help, I'm fairly new to the crypto market but your videos have been perfect to build up my confidence to trade. I want to enter the market at £300 as a starting point and go from there, what would be the best way to start off and which coin
 maybe? Really would appreciate advice from
everyone. Keep up with the vids !! @quickfingersluc

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@omri1181 · Aug 9 '17

What penny stocks broker are you using ? platform ? 


There is also a facebook group. facebook is much more organized that slack messy chat. 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1064955490307688/

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@tizzle · Aug 6 '17

119 members and growing, content is pretty active and easy to navigate.  I suspect this will help to reduce the number of questions you face in your blog Luc.

👍 metafzx

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@coinmangler · Aug 4 '17

Regarding Coinbase.. if you kept your BTC on Coinbase/GDAX after all of their warnings to move to a private wallet, and all of the 100s of crypto articles warning you to take your coins off exchanges.... then you deserve to wait for 2018.

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@iijokerzace · Aug 4 '17

If Bitcoin Cash has a future, then all those people that have their BCC locked in Coinbase, will thank Coinbase for making sure they didn't panic sell it like the rest of us haha.

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@tizzle · Aug 4 '17

One small problem... most of those articles were also partially wrong.  The people who did the best with BCC trades were those who left BTC on HitBIT and Bittrex.  Everyone else is either fucked, or left with the scraps.    I've learned that cold storage is for savings, while exchanges are for active trading - I am prepared to lose everything I am trading with at any given time.  Those articles that tell EVERYONE to get their coins off exchanges weren't seeing the bigger picture, they should have included numerous caveats.

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@coinmangler · Aug 4 '17

Very true. I wish i kept more on Bittrex.. that said, i dumped what i had on bittrex at like $350.. before it went up to $1200. But regardles.. i have no sympathy for people who left their coins on Coinbase.

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@coinmangler · Aug 4 '17

This is how I split my coins. May help if you dont have android.

I started with my BTC on an Electrum wallet. 

1) Sent my BTC to another wallet, in my case Bread Wallet on my iPhone. My Electrum wallet now showed a 0 balance of BTC.
2) uninstalled Electrum and installed Electrum Cash wallet.  The config files were still all there, so it immediately showed a balance of BCC. I didn't even have to recover using secret phrase.
3) Sent the BCC to Bittrex.
4) Waited 24 hours and sold it for .0977! (YMMV on price)

👍 metafzx

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@coinmangler · Aug 5 '17

Right now XBT is skyrocketing. Looking at the ETH/BTC pair, it seems Ether is heading back towards it's base. 

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/598547f4b8fec/

But on ETH/USD, it hasn't even budged.

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/59854849ecc5a/

Would you buy into the ETH/BTC if the base cracked, knowing it's stable against the USD?

👍 awakenomad

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@tizzle · Aug 6 '17

YES YES YES and more YES.  To illustrate, check the price of XBT at .0729130 at that time was roughly equivalent in USD to the price at ETH/USD. In fact at this moment you get almost $1 USD extra equity from trading ETH/XBT over ETH/USD.  When trading currency pairs the proportions may look different visually due to the economies of scale.

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@cryptillionaire · Aug 6 '17

hey Luc, I need help with this trade. Did I mess up? EOS/BTC on HITbtc. I bought at 59 and 56 thinking it would retest support at 61, but it fell short. I am wondering if maybe the larger green candle a few days back was the real support. Do I sell or hold? I am 7k into this trade LOL.  Also, any news on when the market scanner will allow us to change the time frame?
 thank you!  https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/5987429b68c74/

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@cryptillionaire · Aug 6 '17

I cut my losses and sold, I think I misread that base. I'm still looking forward to the new scanner that can sense position trades though!

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@nbiroz · Aug 6 '17

Not Luc. This is not a base, at least not a major one. The base was lower where u can see the price bounced to. There was no big bounce or drop off this one. You should try selling off significant bounces.

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@cryptyoyo · Aug 9 '17

HI Luc, if you get  a chance, can you comment on this.  Is my line a base line.  I used because there are three bases. Now the time scale is 15 min not 1 hour and some are suggesting the base is far lower.  Just wondering your thoughts.

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/598b327753a65/

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@daemon-trader · Aug 9 '17 (edited)

Is this a valid base. I feel the support and resistance that make up the arguement could have to small of a spread to be profitable. 
https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/598ae239770a1/
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@danodes · Aug 7 '17

I'd like to say a big Thanks for the knowledge that you share. It is so insightful and has made me money in a very reliable way. I really appreciate that you are back making videos :-))))))

👍 danodes

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@diggitytrader · Aug 5 '17

Hey Luc! Brand new to the blog here. First of all, thanks for all the videos and tips! It's easy to see there is huge opportunity here and I'm ready to start. The thing is I'm having trouble getting started. I currently have 1ETH in a coinbase wallet that i purchased a week ago, but I'm not sure of the best coins to trade in right now considering i have such a small amount of starting capital to trade with. Currently, is trading coins with coins the best way to go? Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks!

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@cryptotradings · Aug 6 '17

1 ETH is more than enough to start on Bittrex. You should find smaller coins with decent volumes to make profits and shift to the bigger coins. I am sure Luc has mentioned this more than once in many of his videos.

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@diggitytrader · Aug 6 '17

Thanks! I'll give it a go

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@diggitytrader · Aug 6 '17

Just watched a couple more videos. I see what you mean. Very informative for beginning traders like me

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@freshprince4 · Aug 6 '17 (edited)

Hi Luc, I have a quick question about bases. The image below is yours that you used in another comment on this blog. The thing I'm a little confused about is with the blue arrow.  Why didn't you consider it a base a base? Because it gave a pullback and a big bounce.

Hope you can answer it and keep up your great work! I'm in profit thanks to you!

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@leontheorange · Aug 6 '17

I am new too, but in my opinion, the base is depend on the rebounce, in this case is has a rebounce for sure, but when you zoom out, you wont  consider thisis a base.the lower one,touched twice, and look at that huge bounce all the way up to the top,and this is one is absolute safe than the one near the blue arrow.I hope this can help you a bit

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 7 '17

Yup, that can be considered a base for sure.. I missed it, because I take 2 seconds when I drew that chart up.. I just looked at the chart a drew a bunch of bases, but didnt notice that one .. Your totally right tho, it qualifies

👍 freshprince4, leontheorange, thecorempire, knicknack, nipuna

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@nbiroz · Aug 7 '17 (edited)

So I'm getting confused...shall we use position trading to trade the minor bases too or do you not bother with it? I feel like there's a few % profit if we exit at bases, but often it goes 5% down 15% up.
Examples:
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https://www.coinigy.com/assets/img/charts/598873119cac5.png

I feel like these minor bases break all the time, they seem pretty reliable but I dunno...If I use 2 or 3 months chart most of them will be almost invisible. is it worthwhile to do all these trades? It seems that the profit is minimal if we sell at the bases, but if we try to ride the profits that kinda goes outside of the strategy.

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@hepiga · Aug 4 '17 (edited)

Am I the only one accumulating at each broken base? 
I know I'm probably in it for the long haul but hey, let's take a shot at it.

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@iijokerzace · Aug 4 '17 (edited)

hey Luc so I have been trading Bitcoin Cash non stop last couple days and all was well until the panic set in.  I have been watching it and waiting to see when we could get in and it looks to me like there is heavy support around .150 - .153  . Would you suggest anything below that would be nice to buy? I bought 1 BCC at .091 just in case but wanted to hear when would you start buying in?

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@jezsmith720 · Aug 4 '17

Thanks Luc! 🙌

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@jrsamples · Aug 6 '17

Hello everyone,

I am new to all of this and have watched Luc's videos. WOW! what great information. I made a trade and sold half at an 8.4% profit, then later sold the other half for a 16.5% profit.  :)))))

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/59870deb83c4d/

Can anyone tell me how I can tell what I actually made, BTC or USD???  Is there any kind of calculator available that I can use to compute the profit/loss of trades?

Confused!

TIA for any help anyone can give.

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@leontheorange · Aug 6 '17

you receive BTC and you can change it in BTC/ USD   btw BTC is increasing means more dollars xD hope this will help you

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@leontheorange · Aug 7 '17

Thank you luc, you gave me a chance to feed myself, to survive on my own,Thank you.

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@manwe · Aug 9 '17

Hey Luc, have you ever had problems with the coinigy interface (failed to cancel, failed to buy etc)? All my trades were geared to profits but when I can't cancel a trade or buy during a dump it just pointless. I hate it when the only reason I lose is because of the interface.

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 9 '17

Yeah, that happens.. thats why its good to be signed into the exchange as well , during any big trades, so that you can manually enter your trades on there platform if Coinigy lets you down.

👍 thecorempire, crypto6ull, knicknack, nipuna

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@melsporty7 · Aug 7 '17

H Luc, thanks a lot for you're interesting videos !
Could you tell us here or in a video, if you're using simple sell limit orders or sell stop limit orders. If you're using the latter, could you give us an example of where you put the stop and where you put the limit order ?

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 7 '17

only limit orders... nothing else.. no stops, no market orders.. just limit orders is all I need to make my trades..

👍 melsporty7, thecorempire, crypto6ull, knicknack, nipuna

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@minhnguyen1994 · Aug 4 '17

$0.06

I love the way how Luc explains everything in his trading and share it with us. Highly recommended to anyone out there!

👍 minhnguyen1994, iijokerzace, awakenomad, ahnwooseon

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@narwhale · Aug 4 '17

I'm very happy that there are people like Luc who are willing to share their trading strategies in order to help strangers in need. It's amazing, thank you very much!

I know you have posted 3 good strategies that we can utilize with the scanner. However, I would like to ask for your opinion on what you think about trading simple support and resistance with stop loss?

Examples:

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/5981ed31bae6a/

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/5981edd29823d/

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/5981ee2e26e43/

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@nbiroz · Aug 4 '17 (edited)

I think that's what Luc means when he says "trading in range".  He mentioned a few times that he considers charts like these with high percentages good "account building charts".
How can you even stop loss except on Poloniex or making makeshift orders?

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@naseemessa · Aug 6 '17

Repeat of my comment on your last post :)
Hello! Thank you again @quickfingerluc ! In the video of 'Day trading vs Position trading', you mentioned that videos directed specifically at daytraders will be released, once the scanners are out. Well, fortunately, the scanners are out, so will we be getting the daytrading vids soon? :)

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@nbiroz · Aug 4 '17

https://poloniex.com/press-releases/2017.08.03-Bitcoin-Cash-Update/ Poloniex on Bitcoin Cash

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@amanjain2k · Aug 4 '17

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Thanks i was looking for this info.

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 4 '17

$0.07

I pulled all funds from Poloniex yesterday morning, after they were having issues and the site was down weds.. I dont waste time getting the heck out at first signs of trouble with cypto exchanges..

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@szchrist422 · Aug 5 '17

Yeah lots of shady stuff going on over there.  I told them to cancel my account.

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@thegripmaster · Aug 4 '17

Thanks Luc. This is good advice. Too bad Poloniex is my favorite.

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@zerotto · Aug 6 '17

Sounds sensible. 
I raised a support ticket on Poloniex 57 days ago and I have still not had a response, which is clearly unacceptable.  If you have a issue while using their exchange don't expect their help to resolve it. 
Since the May/June boom in crypto they have really struggled, it appears to be a HR and miss management problem rather anything underhand going on, but in this unregulated world of crypto, you never know!

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@nbiroz · Aug 5 '17 (edited)

I like to live dangerously
https://www.coinigy.com/assets/img/charts/598591563ed27.png
My sell order missed by 2 satoshi as usual so I had to sell later. There was big FOMO and the rally so buying as risky, but I could have walked with 20% profit if i was a tiny bit more lucky.

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@oneluckyflip · Aug 8 '17 (edited)

That was a hard fall....so unlucky.  Good think you caught that flash buy.  Did you take a loss on this one?

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@nbiroz · Aug 8 '17

I think loss would be minimal, the real problem was i mistyped a 0 in my sell order and lost like $20 cause of it. It wasn't a smart trade either way, I just bought cause of the endless rally expecting it to go to 150 or 200, my order almost went thru at 140.

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@newrealms · Aug 5 '17

Being in profit is always a good thing. 12.4% is great. But, wait an hour or two and see what it might have been. Whoa!

![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmZUPsLvm62zn2h83npUkSs3W1kZVvBTFhzwsyUq9rbeQm/image.png)

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@cryptotradings · Aug 6 '17 (edited)

It could also go reverse :)  Btw, great trade. All the best finding such gems.

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@nipuna · Aug 8 '17

I am always checking this blog. I keep doing it few times per an hour, I always check whether Luc has posted a new video :-) Or replied to a comment.. I can't stop myself :-D I am addicted :-)

I have ton of questions to ask and I am waiting till Luc posts his next video to ask all there :-)

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 8 '17

I really don't have much to make a video about today. Everyone has been asking me to make some videos on Day Trading, (but I'm hesitant, because its dangerous, and new traders could lose money,  vs position trading which is so simple) ... As far as the position trading goes, its well explained in my videos..  I dont want to make videos, just to make videos.. It has to be valuable content, so perhaps when I see the next big opportunity on the market, Ill make another video.

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@joaodg · Aug 8 '17

I Luc, I would love more info on day trading as well. Even though it's a bit more dangerous, I feel that it's a great way to learn because you can get more trades on your shoulders and learn how the market works. At least that's how I see it after doing it for about two weeks. I Think people need to consider that it's a bit more risky so just put less money into it until you feel more comfortable. In my case, I've been making some money but I need more guidance, I feel most of the time I'm acting on gut feeling. So it would be great if you could make a video more in depth  about it

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@manwe · Aug 9 '17

@quickfingersluc While I agree that day trading is very dangerous, I feel that people will do it anyway, so it's best to inform them instead of letting them go their own way.

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@nathandmckenzie · Aug 9 '17 (edited)

but we miss you man!

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@nipuna · Aug 8 '17

Oops.. Anyway I will not stop checking your blog over and over again.. I have some questions I'll post them here then :-)

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@nipuna · Aug 12 '17 (edited)

Hi Great Luc!!!

I marked a base for XVG and guess what proving **you are always correct** it cracked the base today and bounced back.
I wasn't aware of this because I almost forgot to check and I marked that base on 2nd August at 11.25P.M GMT+5.30

It did bounce back but I have a doubt, Did I identify the base correctly? I don't take the very bottom of the dip I take sightly up before that where the price touched 2 or more times. 
I also check for the same base in the past to see how many bumps it had.

Yellow is the base I drew and red is the lowest price of that dip.

Since now it bounced back up which point I should consider as the new base ? 
White line (0.000000090) or Light blue line (0.00000093) ?

![Zoomed chart](https://www.coinigy.com/assets/img/charts/5989fd5834334.png)
https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/5989fd5834334/

![Zoomed out chart](https://www.coinigy.com/assets/img/charts/5989fd8eaf75d.png)
https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/5989fd8eaf75d/




Thank you Luc :-)

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@nipuna · Aug 9 '17

@quickfingersluc  Any comments on this one?? Anyone???

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@nipuna · Aug 11 '17

Please anyone?

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@nipuna · Aug 8 '17

Hi Great Luc!!

It's me again with a question paper :-)

First of all I will share my experience. I've started trading 2 days ago. Let's say with a small account actually you can call it a tiny account because my capitol is very very low. Because I am still testing stuff :-)

What I tried was Day trading which you didn't recommend for a beginner.

Here is my first trade.
Right after I got the notification from the scanner I rushed to HitBTC and bought Maid coins which unfortunately I think I've bought on a pump or something the coin didn't go up even after waiting for a half day. So I just sold them taking a loss. I don't worry because I bought only 2 coins and they worth only cents :-P But I learned a good lesson from that..

2nd and 3rd trades were OK. Bought 1 AMP and 1 BOS coin and sold but not much profits 1 cent or 2 cents. Anyway I am happy I didn't loose :-)

Tried your strategy and **no one can beat you..** It worked.. Here is what I did.
I set some alerts on DOGE and BTS which went off but unfortunately I was sleeping at that time and when I was checking they had gone up again. Anyway this proves your method always work :-) If I was around I would have made 10% or 15% profits. :-)

Now the question paper :-)

**1.** I often see good charts on ETH pairs than BTC pairs. I could be wrong because I mostly work with low volume coins. Is this normal? That means most of the time we have good ETH charts to trade on than BTC and can lower the risk?

**2.** What your idea about these kind of charts? They look so weird to me, Can we trade these? :-/
![](https://www.coinigy.com/assets/img/charts/598876b6ba087.png)
https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/598876b6ba087/

**3.** I would also like to become a full time trader. But to be safe I would like to trade on all the markets not juts Crypto market. So is there any good book which a beginner should read? Which I can take those methods and apply to any market including Crypto ? I know all the markets aren't the same but there could be something general to all of them..

**4.** I like to try Forex market and Binary options. What's your opinion on that?

**5.** I also like to trade Penny stocks like you.. Can a Non US or Canadian person do that? With a small budget of course. Any broker supports online trading? Any tutorials or something you can recommend for a beginner to start in that market ?

**6.** I would like to try all the markets, Could you suggest which are good for a beginner (Forex,Penny Stocks,Binary options,Commodities and etc...)?

**7.** When some big guys like institutional players take over the market what small people like us do? Then we won't get any opportunity :-(

**8.** My last question :-) (For today :-D ), When more and more people start to use your strategy (and you become a celebrity :-) You already are for us :-D ) will there be a day that this method won't work anymore :-( ?

Thank you very much Luc and really sorry for this long post. Since you are super busy I asked all at once so you can answer them all quickly and get back to trading..

Thank you!!

👍 mario91

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 8 '17

You can trade anything that is repeatable, so that you know your odds. So if you are looking at a chart you need to take time to read the charts story. How much volume get traded everyday? (is your account too small or too big for that amount of volume) So sure you can trade that chart you posted if there is enough volume everyday for the size of trades you want to take..
I have never found a book that explains trading acurately. The most important part of trading is timing. You have to be patient and wait for the right time, you need to buy where the chart tells you to buy. All of this is explained in my videos. (most traders get excited and buy too soon, even I feel like that sometimes, so I nibble if i really want something.. but I only buy with size when its truly at the right spot)
Forex is complicated, because there are alot of factors influencing the price.
Binary Options is basically gambling, you have almost no edge.
Penny stocks are exactly like Cryptos, except big commissions to pay and more dangerous moves because of criminal activities/manipulation.
Comodidties and Futures trading is very high pace, and you are trying to make small fractions on price. Your edge for that type of trading will be your tools, and fast fast execution, Hotkeys and Dom trading.
But nothing is easier in my opinion than cryptos, and since it just keeps going up, even a lousy trader will make money (for now).
My method has worked for me for 11+ years because its mathematical. Simply put, if your odds of a trade working are over 90% then why wouldn't it work? It had to work 9 out of 10 times already just to qualify the chart your thinking of buying, otherwise you wouldnt take the trade... Math

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@cornholio · Aug 8 '17

Would you like a spatula? For your bunghole?

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@nipuna · Aug 9 '17

@quickfingersluc Great explanations man, Just great.. I'll read this comment again and again.. So every time I learn something from you..  

I really wanted to try Forex but you seem not much interested which means I have no chance at all. (if a legend doesn't do how a noobs like I do.) Penny stocks would be the one to check then.. I liked stock market  since a long time but our local stock market sucks and government also sucks so I don't like to invest there.. No profits.. 

Thank you for your time...

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@octavyo · Aug 5 '17

@quickfingersluc -Can you please let me know how to handle those day trades ? I mean as soon as I get the alert i open the chart and I see the price is back to where it was before the drop or close to it so i can`t make that trade. It seems to happen in seconds which is too fast to catch that trade. What I should do in this instance ? Placing a buy order to where the drop was seems not to be a good ideea as from what I see the drop seems to happen once not multiple times. Please help me with this. What I should do to catch those drops ? It`s very frustrating not to be able to make a few trades because thigs happens in seconds not minutes.   Thanks once again for everything and i`m looking forward for your answer

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@omri1181 · Aug 6 '17

Hey guys, the slack group is nice. But slack chat is VERY MESSY!!! 
I opened a facebook group for Luc traders...you can share whatever, and facebook is great at organizing replies and threads.
please join here

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1064955490307688/

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@tizzle · Aug 6 '17

Disagree.  Slack chat is far superior over Facebook, it is designed for business teams, highly searchable and threaded with bots and even voice over IP abilities.  Slack is my favorite team communication tool by far, I won't use Facebook Groups anymore.

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@onecointwocoin · Aug 4 '17

Hey guys, a question from a new trader here (I know my question isn't related to Luc's specific post here, but as it is the most recent, I decided I'd ask here.). As someone who is just starting out with a small account, how should I divide funds between exchanges? Should I put all my funds into a single exchange, build up and then spread out? Recommendations for an exchange with good day trading potential?

I have been following Luc for the past month, slowly watching all his videos and taking things in. Last week I was finally ready to start trading, so I bought some ETH on Coinbase - it was a great deal in comparison to buying BTC - and opened up accounts with a number of brokerages since it would take time to get verified. Now that I finally have my coins and am ready to move them into the exchange, I don't know where to start. I won't be able to jump on any daytrading opportunities in time if I wait to spot a trade before moving it to the exchange with that trade.

Thanks in advance for any help and comments from the many knowledge trades I've seen in the comments!

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@iijokerzace · Aug 4 '17

I use Bittrex (very easy to start and so far very trustworthy). For now I too have a small account and trade exclusively on Bittrex. As you get more experience, trading on multiple exchanges is very beneficial but  even on one exchange I have been making a killing  all thanks to luc and his trading methods and the experience i get every day learning more and more about trading patterns in cryptoworld. I highly suggest starting out on Bittrex and get familiar with trading because you will make horrible trades once you start to make money. I realized you really do have to learn how to control your emotions to make the decisions for you.

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@nbiroz · Aug 4 '17

Start with Bittrex or HitBTC. Bittrex has around 200 altcoins to trade, and hitBTC has lower volume so you will probably be able to trade some ETH pairs.  If  you're new and you want to daytrade then you should probably trade with like 1% of your account. Look for coins paired with ETH that have high volatility and move in a range. I don't bother spreading between exchanges but then again i only have like 0.20btc.  Just customize the scanner to one exchange and you are good to go.

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@pelt · Aug 4 '17 (edited)

I'm not sure from your post if you purchased coins from coinbase and paid the fee?  Or if you used the GDAX?

If you PURCHASE COINS from Coinbase, they charge you a somewhat small fee.

But something kinda cool(in case others may not know), is that if you link a bank account with Coinbase, you can deposit hard cash directly to your wallet.  Once you deposit the cash, you can then purchase whatever coin you want on the GDAX EXCHANGE directly with your cash, and avoid ALL/ANY fees!!!  

Once you do that, you can transfer from your GDAX wallets to wallets on any other exchange you want to trade on (BitTrex for example).


NOTE: You automatically have A GDAX Account if you have a Coinbase account.

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@profitsfinder · Aug 4 '17 (edited)

I transfered my BTC to Coinimi and tried the procedure but never received any BCC. In their FAQ's it states: - 
----Any BTC sent to Coinomi after block 478558, the block which initiated the fork, are NOT liable for BCH claim.---
I wish had seen this before I attempted it, it's cost me.

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@coinmangler · Aug 5 '17

oh, that's ok @profitsfinder.  Your BCC is still on your old wallet's address, just on the new chain. Download Electrum Cash wallet and restore your keys using the 12 word restore code from your now empty BTC wallet. As long as you had BTC on it before the fork, the BCC will be there waiting.

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@reefresco · Aug 4 '17

Thanks for the awesome video's, Luc!  One thing you have mentioned a few times but never gone over in detail is the Series 2 chart.  What is a Series 2 telling us and how do you use it?

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@nbiroz · Aug 4 '17 (edited)

Series 2 seems to give detailed information about the candlesticks(open, high, low etc.) So you don't have to search for that on the chart. It lets you analyze each candlestick in detail,  uou can check it out on Coinigy. I don't know how one would utilize this more advanced information though.

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@richie23 · Aug 4 '17

Hi Luc,
I want to thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge in both Steemit and Youtube, I am learning a lot thank you very much.
I need to ask you a favor, in steemit the person @andreaskrieger downloaded your previous channel your videos, he is willing to share them if you authorize it, is that possible?
There are some people with me who are eager to enjoy this information, please consider it and give us your authorization.
Thank you

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 4 '17

$0.03

I was given that entire library, so I now have all my old videos. I am planning to review them and then re-upload them on the my new channel.. Here's the thing, I ran into security issues with that old channel, so I need to review those videos carefully, to make sure I dont have any sensitive info on display... But after I go through them, i'll gladly re-upload them for everyone. 
The other consideration, is that the subject is often about daytrading pennystocks which is not crypto, the theme of this blog.. but Ill still upload them with some sort of explaination that its not exactly on topic.

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@aaronstpierre · Aug 4 '17

Thanks for this Luc! I'd love to watch videos about trading penny stocks as well!

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@btcunbranded · Aug 4 '17

Look forward to this valueble content being rereleased.Thankyou very much for all your work mate!

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@richie23 · Aug 5 '17

Thank you very much, we will be waiting, meanwhile we will continue to progress in learning with your videos

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@spazmatism · Aug 5 '17

Hi @quickfingersluc, I am under 18 and I was wondering if there are any cryptocurrency exchanges that have an option for a custodian account.

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@suziescorner · Aug 4 '17

Thank you so much!! I always appreciate your consideration, letting us know your opinion on this as well as other advice. I'm trying to learn more about day trading too!!

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@tizzle · Aug 6 '17 (edited)

@quickfingersluc:  I noticed that NBT/BTC took a huge panic dive yesterday as BTC was popping,  seemed like a great opportunity to buy up at the bottom. But there was something VERY odd about this chart that I haven't seen before. 

The data showed that there was one guy selling 15 BTC worth of NBT, he is clearly a NBT whale on the ask side because the total volume was only 100BTC or so.  As he ran out of coins to sell, suddenly someone appeared on the bid side  requesting the same amount of coin for the same price.  As the day wore on, this whale (we can only assume its the same same person or team) went back and forth across both the ask and bid sides of the data.... the question is WHY?  This doesn't make sense to me, do you have any insight?  Its as if he is holding the price down intentionally, I cannot figure it out. 

https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/59873a330033c/

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@quickfingersluc · Aug 7 '17 (edited)

Level 2 is always hard to figure out, unless you have context.. So in this example, there is a big seller, and he keeps flipping back and forth from bid to ask.. Is he trying to manipulate the price buy scaring sellers or buyers by flashing big orders?  Does he actually have a ton to sell and he only adds to the bid now and again to try to get the price to turn back up so that he can sell into it? Its very hard to figure out off level 2..
So I only use level 2 in a context situation. ... An example of a context situation is: there is a quick sell off, the price drops big and then some huge bids appear, then i am ready to start buying in with them.. the context is the huge drop and then buyers are starting to support the price..  

Another example of context is where again the price drops huge and then there is still a big seller sitting on the ask, only he is alone and then buys start gobbling him up..  the context is that the one seller dropped the market, he had a huge order to sell and hes almost out of coins, so I eat what he has left and once hes gone, there is no longer a motivated seller present so the coin should rally.. In these type of instances, where you have clear context, then level 2 is useful.. Otherwise its a guessing game trying to make sense of people motives on level 2

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@tizzle · Aug 7 '17

outstanding answer, thank you!

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@tizzle · Aug 6 '17 (edited)

Same chart data, 3 hours later.  Look at the whales now.... price has been adjusted downward, not upward.  VERY ODD.  What is going on here?  
![](https://steemitimages.com/DQmNd6vS56C3F2XErcZRBWLpYUcumoFAZpJb7fWExPmNPQ9/image.png)

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@tizzle · Aug 7 '17

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This article may explain what happening.  https://cointelegraph.com/news/single-trader-with-enormous-bankroll-is-manipulating-bitcoin-price-but-to-what-end

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@tryder · Aug 9 '17 (edited)

Hi, @quickfingersluc I love your videos, was considering trading for some time and I always look for simple no bullshit strategies and ofc you got me amped up like crazy. :)

I know you're busy but if you find time for this one cos i went over all your videos and couldn't find info on this..

I have questions about those spikes trades… So I caught this one and I went on monthly chart to check if it happens before and it did.

https://www.screencast.com/t/UmYbTtITNg

So my problems: When I zoom last spike to 10min it’s like this.

https://www.screencast.com/t/JEYRRMLQmYN 

Here is 5 min chart in case needed:

https://www.screencast.com/t/jfSNLXIWIIVC 

1. Should i react only on first 30% drop?
2. What's the time frame from 10 min chart that you wait to go for 50% drop? (so it doesn't slowly grind down...)

My solution for this would be to go back to previous spikes in 10min frames to check how spikes reacts but coinigy doesn’t let me go back that far… As far as I can read from those charts in 60min frames it looks like we get 30% drop but no 50% ones. So are those trades interesting in risk award fashion?

Keep them coming and thank you once again!

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@turi · Aug 4 '17

Hello Luc, thanks as usual for the new content!
What exchanges do you use for trading cryptos? I currently have half of my assets in poloniex and bittrex (and a tiny bit on Kraken) and half out in my wallets, and I want to put mostly everything back for trading. I'm considering adding Etherdelta, although that wouldn't work with Coinigy. Any other suggestion?

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@nbiroz · Aug 4 '17

He likes Bittrex, hitBTC and maybe Kraken, liqui and poloniex(but he pulled funds out of poloniex)

👍 turi

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@will-i-am-7521 · Aug 8 '17

Hi Luc,
Thanks for the Videos And comments... what i have noticed is Bitcoin or cryptocurrency  is quite confusing to people  mainly the initial set up for accounts How small can they start trading capital. what exchanges they should use.  even me i would love to see a full set up as there seems to be no videos explaining this in full.   i tryed  2 platforms and found that position trading is the way to go  i also tryed the other i was on iq options and the buy and put spread would kill you  as a day trader like 50-80 pips  at one point it was 50 in and then later when i had made some proffit to exit i would loose 40 pips so a total of 90 pips what a joke.... so i was hoping you might make a startup video on how to get started and how to trade with low capital for those that want to try but dont want to risk much  regards Will-i-am-7521

👍 cryptosuf

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@cryptotradings · Aug 8 '17 (edited)

1 month back, I had no idea about Crypto trading. After watching Luc's videos, I have started trading a few days back. Before that, I opened my accounts on Bittrex, Bitfinex, Kraken and waited for them to get verfied, bought Bitcoins from an ATM, Local Bitcoins and waiting for my account to get verified on Coinmama to buy directly from my card. I started very small (16$ to be exact) and steadily gaining each day just by following Luc's advice. 16$ is not much, but I am waiting to buy 100$ worth on Coinmama. But even with 16$, I have made it into 36$ in just a few days. So, in my opinion, nothing is small, where there is a will there is a way. I have wacthed Luc's videos more than 10 times each. Sometimes, I just observe his computer screen to see what things he do which sometimes he forgets to tell ( little things like his screen size, his alarm sound etc) because he is trading for 10 years+. I know 16$ could just be a price of a burger in your city, but where I am located currently, average salary is 200$. So, it's a decent amount of money for many people. Luc is very busy with his personal tradings and there are something which we have to find it on our own. All the best with your tradings. Hope you see only green days ahead :)

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@wingz · Aug 5 '17

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Have a look at the price action straight after a bcc block comes in, so much edge there.

👍 wingz

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