I always go by blame the system, not the players. I never played Dcity and I'm not planning to anytime soon and I have no clue who @gerber is. If he's making that much with the game I guess someone has to have bought that hive (or the Hive Power to generate that much) in the first place for him to do so. I guess the reality is that Hive just doesn't have all too much of a use case right now. You can't expect anyone even witnesses to hold Hive just to hold Hive and being dumped on constantly. From what I understand, it makes sense for Splinterlands to have a lot of HP to provide the required resource credits for their users who just want to play the game without being required to invest in Hive but that only goes that far. Aside from that, it's mostly the circular 'buy tokens to get more tokens' loop.

At least LEO has actual advertisement revenue which is used to buy and burn LEO even though the rate at which is being printed is outpacing that like crazy at the moment since the price has gone up so much.

I do see tribes / dapps becoming more independent with Hive being mostly a temporary payment method to get in and out of in the short term.

Despite everything, I'm still tempted to load up some more on Hive at current prices. The tech itself works really well and is ready for adoption aimed at regular people and not just whales. In the end, it's all just supply and demand. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out the coming years

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Funnily enough I am also waiting for more comments.

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I've heard about this and am curious to see the discussion. I'll be back.

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What should I do with hive in your opinion, hold it? How I can pay devs, designers, hostings? :)
also ~500k sold in year compared to ~28M produced in rewards is nothing. Still someone buys it and maybe powering up? that's how market works...

At the moment I have around 200k HIVE, working on different apps, providing liquidity in beeswap, market making bots on engine to keep high liquidity on some tokens. I spent 40k$ in hive or btc from sold hive on splinterlands to save it a little bit in hard times few months ago. And all above gives me almost nothing, I just hold it in good faith.

Also you pasted above screenshot of hive I spent to pay for **hive node** :) I think it doesn't match transfers to exchanges :P

Just tell me how much HIVE I should hold with no reason, to keep you happy :)

Also for dcity I think it is much more safe if my funds are diversified. And can eventually spend it back on development or basically increase game value using $. How much risk I can take holding Hive forever till it reaches real bottom and will be not enough to fund any development?

Make an app, earn hive, then try to decide for yourself how much HIVE is max for yourself. I can understand BTC maximalism but HIVE maximalism is weird. I guess you hold other crypto? You can always use it to buy HIVE if you think 100% HIVE is the way...

Here we are on LeoFinance, you can rate my financial decisions :)

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I'm also eagerly awaiting more comments. 😁

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Good you mentioned you don’t like singling someone out because I could have misinterpreted a large part of your post 🤣
I don’t have much history but I understand your point. I’d like to see big actors holding interests on the platform also staking big bags of hive. 

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I don't know too much but I think the main issue with HIVE is the inflation.

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Interesting thoughts for sure. 

I liked to read @nealmcspadden 's comment. I sometimes feel it's the whole HODL'ing mentality that keeps us ( myself included ) stuck in our scarcity mindset. About to change that around, while also focusing on setting up my investments to grow my stake.

> NB I've tried to phrase this so it isn't an attack on anyone investing in DCity, so please don't get too acerbic in the comments!

How many reading this post know what acerbic means? I like to think my English is pretty good but I had to look it up hahaha! Thanks for increasing my vocabulary.

Now let's manifest some sunshine in Portugal. A week of rain is enough for me.

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Disclosure: gerber is my partner in dec101

I've always thought this whole line of reasoning is faulty. HIVE is supposed to be a currency. Currencies that aren't exchanged are dead and worthless. 

The issue with the price of HIVE isn't that people sell too much. For every seller there is a buyer. The issue is that there isn't enough demand to raise the price.

*Note: You can get into a different argument about the ninjamine that is now in the proposal funds.

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I play #dcity for the sake of earning sim
and to a long extent earn hive.
I reinvest most hive and sim I got since I started.
I am sort of in a loss situation but it is a game for me.
I am starting to use sim and hive 
to power up Hive and keep it going.

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To be very honest, when you start playing Dcity and start creating top city that only create Hive rewards for themselves  with 0 SIM rewards, it simply means they are not playing Dcity instead they are looking for APR they got from Dcity that is much greater than Hive curation.

A broke and complex curation further add salt to the wound.

And last that I hate to say but I personally feel 80% user in Hive are not here due to ideology or decentralization that Hive offer but for some bucks that Hive offer. (ok everyone like to earn  but there is some ideology that you follow but I feel Hive lacks that culture.)

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Everyone is selling, most witnesses sold most of what they have earned, most dapps are selling, most of the funded proposals are selling, most authors are selling. It is kind of the theme here. I sold around 10% of my stake and it is worth 10x what I hold now.

Technically buying Leo is "selling" as well.

I gave up caring about it. People will almost always do what is in their best interest.

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