Sorting Out My Leo Accumulation Strategies... and some questions! by revisesociology

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hive-167922 · @revisesociology · May 30 '20

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Sorting Out My Leo Accumulation Strategies... and some questions!

I've been investing some of my Steem PowerDown in Leo - I had been buying a few hundred here on steem-engine and finally decided to buy roughly $100 with some with fiat yesterday - I literally did a SEPA transfer, bought LTC, then BTC, then HIVE, then LEO (and one wonders why crypto isn't suffering from mass adoption yet?!?) - I managed to pick up nearly a couple of thousand at 0.06 Hive, and I put some limit orders in for miners too.

![leo2.JPG](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/revisesociology/Qgt2kNQL-leo2.JPG)

I'm currently struggling to pick up the remaining 150 odd LEO that didn't go through at that price!

My total stake split across my two accounts is now around 7.5K LEO.

![Leo3.JPG](https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/revisesociology/BwMpndRz-Leo3.JPG)

I plan to buy more going forwards, I'll probably just buy in gradually over the next month or so. I see a good future for Leofinance - there's a natural synergy between blockchain and an investment community after all.

I've always had a bit of a soft spot for LEO - the only reason I've never invested heavily is because my HIVE is so very precious to me - I am mainly a blogger, investing is a side interest!

I think it's a good investment, even if the price is now 30-40% higher than what I've been buying for recently.

### Curation Return Maximization Strategy (yes, the alt!)

A quick troll through my curation returns reveals I've been earning around 1-2 LEO a day from curating, it's actually quite difficult for me to check my percentage return as my stake had been changing and I've no idea of what tool I could use to check that... if anyone could point me in the right direction I'd be glad!

What I do (think I) know is that I'm going to get better curation returns if I delegate all of my LEO to my alt account (@revise.leo) and then use that to vote exclusively on people who use the leofinance tag

Voting with my main revise account will give me a lower return (I think) because I vote for a range of people on Hive, most of whom don't use leofinance.

I'm currently splitting my stake 50-50% between the same accounts to do a curation returns comparison.

### Hive Delegation to Leo

I'm maintaining enough of a delegation to bring me in at least 1 LEO a day. At the moment that's only a 200 HP delegation, worked out at current HIVE-LEO prices that's a 35% annual return, but I'm sure my return will go down in the next couple of days to reflect the recent price hike, so I've just upped it to 250HP.

I may increase this further! This is probably the easiest way for me to keep the LEO drip-feeding in.

### Posting and commenting on the LEO platform

This is something I intend to get into a bit more - I've got a good feeling about this place.

I do have a decent portfolio of diverse investments, and I like a decent return as much as the next person, but I'm also quite interested in 'mundane investments' - that is the concepts such as 'buying once, buying right' or buying land to yield to food, not necessarily just investments that bring a financial return.

I'm especially interested in the [leopedia project](https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@steem.leo/introducing-leopedia-io-or-an-onramp-to-hive-and-leofinance) - that kind of stuff is right up my street!)

I wish I'd have had a chance to sort my LEO strategy out sooner, it's just other things in life had to take priority, I'm very glad I've finally got around to this!

I also get the feeling the leo platform is a good place to reward people with upvotes on comments - I sort of miss that from the old days on that blockchain that shall not be named!

### Questions - Upvotes for good answers!

1. Is it worth buying Leo Miners? My gut feeling is yes, even though it'll take about 4 years for them to pay off, as I've still got the miner, which I can then sell, albeit at a reduced rate I imagine. However, I'm wondering whether the money I spend on a miner might be better just powered up and earning me curation returns?!?
2. I've noticed a lot of people voting on leo posts immediately after they are published, does this mean there is no early voting curation penalty on the leo platform?
3. I'm taking it there's a 50-50% reward split on author-curators, like everywhere else?!?
4. Does it make any difference to earnings whether I post using the full on leo-finance platform or just use the leofinance community tag with Peakd? My feeling is that more people will read on Peakd as I can publish to my blog too? (So I'll maybe 3 rather than 2 reads, yes I'm a realist.)
5. If anyone could post links to some KILLER information posts about the economics of LEO (about inflation etc.) that would be most appreciated.
6. Will anyone give me a nice PHAT leo upvote if I upload a selfie? If it helps I can take a picture of myself with my silver stack.

Anyways, cheers for reading! I look forward to some answers!

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@abh12345 · May 30 '20

If any of these tribes succeed, it'll probably be Leo. 

1. Not keen on miners and think you can do better curating.
2. Unless something has changed, there is no window of curation maximisation.  That should be easy to test, have a look on beeme for someone like TM's alt account and see how the votes roll in (after seconds).
3. I read you may get curated by leo if you use their site
4. Ask in the leo discord for killer info?
5. Another one? :P

👍 revise.leo

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@revise.leo · May 30 '20

Can one post too many selfies?

I think this may be a thing going forwards!

Posted Using [LeoFinance](https://leofinance.io/@revise.leo/qb5xjb)

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@abh12345 · May 30 '20

I guess not, go for it!

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@phython · May 30 '20

>I had been buying a few hundred here on steem-engine

You really scared me  for a second that you bought Leo on steem-engine instead of hive-engine. 

>I literally did a SEPA transfer, bought LTC, then BTC, then HIVE, then LEO 

ok hive,then leo , feel relaxed.

Still checked in steem-engine,Leo is not visible there.

Happy for your purchase ,Congrats buddy.

Posted Using [LeoFinance](https://leofinance.io/@phython/qb5cif)

👍 revise.leo

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@revise.leo · May 30 '20

No - I 've been buying on Hive engine, I'm aware it's been delisted on Steem-engine! I meant I was buying, I bought some when it was cheaper, not very much, but at least some!

Cheers!

Posted Using [LeoFinance](https://leofinance.io/@revise.leo/qb5e1h)

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@preparedwombat · May 30 '20

>Will anyone give me a nice PHAT leo upvote if I upload a selfie? If it helps I can take a picture of myself with my silver stack.

I’ve got 13K LEO staked and am a silver stacker. 😎

👍 revise.leo

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@revise.leo · May 30 '20

I'll take that as a yes, careful I may just test it out!

Is there a dust threshold do you know? Something else I forgot to ask!

Posted Using [LeoFinance](https://leofinance.io/@revise.leo/qb58rg)

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@preparedwombat · May 30 '20

Not sure if LEO specifically uses a dust threshold, but I think PalCoin uses a teeny 0.002 PAL threshold so it might be the same.

👍 revise.leo

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@taskmaster4450le · May 30 '20

1. I am not a fan of miners but that is just me.  I think you can do better by staking and curating but I have no numbers to back that up.

2. The reward system is the same as Hive so yes there is a penalty for early voting.

3. Correct

4. Posting through Leofinance.io will get you upvoted by the leovoter.  I, along with other stake holders, tend to vote the posts through Leofinance at a greater weight/more often.  We support those who use the frontend.

5. I dont think that is put together yet although there are some videos on Leopedia that might help.  As much as people focus upon inflation, at this point growth rate of the ecosystem is much more important.

6. Not from me 😁

Posted Using [LeoFinance](https://leofinance.io/@taskmaster4450le/qb5ddn)

👍 revise.leo

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@revise.leo · May 30 '20

Hey great responses, I've just changed my vote times accordingly!

I really wish I had coding skills so I could write something to allow me to analyse returns - a version of BeeMe for for Leo would be great!

Posted Using [LeoFinance](https://leofinance.io/@revise.leo/qb5e5a)

👍 taskmaster4450le

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@taskmaster4450le · May 30 '20

Hivestats.io.

It already exists and this week will see a curation return for the Hive Engine tokens, at least according to the update the other day.

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@toofasteddie · May 30 '20

IMO, LEO is the most promising token in the HE ecosystem. They have a good product, very specific on finance and they are delivering updates frequently.

👍 revise.leo

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@revise.leo · May 30 '20

Yes it looks promising!

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@zemiatin · May 30 '20

Exactly. I wonder how plausible would a 0.10$ cent Leo would be in the futute. That'd be pretty sweet. :D

👍 zemiatin1

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@revisesociology · May 30 '20

At the moment that would mean what a 0.4 conversion to HIVE (I think, something around there), given the trouble I'm having picking some up at < than 0.1 ATM it might happen!

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@zemiatin · May 30 '20 (edited)

Just found about Leofinance about a week ago and I love it. Wish I had some fiat that I could use to buy some but until I get my hands on some I just try to stack small amounts posting and commenting on leofinance. 

No curation rewarsd coming in for me as my Leo Power is too low but that will change.

Anyway, best of luck in you Hive and Leo Journey. I wish you become a whale here soon. :p

👍 toofasteddie, zemiatin1, revise.leo

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@revise.leo · May 30 '20

I think it's a good token to target as it's so much cheaper than Hive, best of luck to you too!

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