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二胎?三胎?
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<p>  读过莫言小说《丰乳肥臀》的人,一定会对小说中的一些计划生育相关的事情印象深刻,其实我在看过之后就觉得,虽然是小说,但也是实际有发生过的。</p>
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<p>  大约三十多年前,我妈怀我妹的时候,也同村里其她怀孕妇女一样,去到其她亲戚家躲避,现在的年轻人可能对此没有太多感受,要知道那时候国家的计划生育政策刚开始实施没多久,非常的严格,所以在下边执行政策时候,也是比较简单又粗暴,比如说,计划生育检查人员定期会来村里检查,发现有怀孕生过一胎的,就会要求女性去做绝育手术,如果是男性,就去做结扎。当然,因为同一个家庭只要一人就可以,所以一般男的很少去做结扎,而是大多数女性去做绝育手术。</p>
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<p>  对于刚怀上二胎的,一旦被发现,就会强行被拉去做流产手术。对于那些超生的家庭,解决的办法则比较一致,就是罚款。如果交上了罚款,则不予追究,如果没有缴纳罚款,工作人员会到家里来催,几次之后,如果还未缴纳罚款,就会到家里强行搬东西充公,但那个时候农村人普遍没有太多值钱的家当,可能最值钱的就是家里的牲畜如牛羊猪等,因此经常会看到每当计划生育的工作人员来到村里时,怀孕的妇女四散逃走,未缴纳罚款的人家惊慌失措地关门,但这一切似乎作用都不大,那些人有的是办法,门和墙甚至可以被推倒,牛羊猪自然会被强制拉走充公以抵超生的罚款,留下身后闹哄哄的狼藉一片。</p>
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<p>  当然,三十年后我们再回忆这段历史,确实会感到有些较为残忍,但是也表示能理解。因为重男轻女的思想,没有男孩子的家庭想要个男孩子,有了男孩子的家庭也想多生几个,在“人多力量大”,多个孩子只是“多双筷子而已”等的思想下,人口的暴涨是难免的。也确实因为人口增长的太快,政府不得不采取强制的计划生育政策。</p>
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<p>  时光飞逝,岁月如梭。近四十年后,在房价日益飞涨、城市生存压力越来越大的今天,加之人们的一些传统观念的改变,多数家庭普遍是一个小孩,即便在前年政策正式放开二胎后,人口的增长率到今天也远低于之前的预估,其中最主要的原因,莫过于“生孩子容易,养孩子难”了。</p>
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<p>  为什么会这么讲?我们姑且不讲现代年轻人在买房几乎掏空了“六个钱包”(男方女方、爸爸妈妈、爷爷奶奶),以及还款的压力,还有孩子上学教育的花费,如果是公办学校费用相对少许多,但其他的课外兴趣爱好培训费等,杂七杂八加起来每月也是一笔不小的开支,还有最关键的,孩子谁来带?毕竟能雇得起保姆的家庭还是较少数,加之偶尔曝光出来的一些社会阴暗面的新闻,除非真的没办法,否则总是让人心里无法踏实。</p>
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<p>  思索之后还是托管到学校觉得稳妥些,可是又不时爆出甚至连携程这样的上市公司自己的幼儿园都有孩子被虐待事件,况其它乎?</p>
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<p>  而这个时候爷爷奶奶年龄也大了,最主要的是很多上一代人初来到城市里生活,适应城市里的生活也是个问题。剩下的就只能夫妻双方一人辞职全职在家带孩子了,但一想到还有贷款未还,孩子的各种教育培训费用,家里的开支等,头就开始嗡嗡大,想辞职全职带孩子,唉,还是咬咬牙先忍耐下吧。</p>
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<p>  至于想再生个孩子?别说三胎,二胎都不敢往下想了。</p>
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<p>  即便全面放开计划生育政策,相信对多数人来讲,这并不算太令人兴奋的事情,最多也只是多了一条新闻而已。</p>
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@aafeng ·
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我不少同学朋友都在硬撑着要二胎,主要是为了给老大找个伴
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@angelina6688 ·
感觉我们小区里要二胎的“勇士”还是不少的。
我就不趟这趟浑水了。。。。。。
养不起,也不想一辈子被孩子束缚(´ー`)y━~~
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@hqy ·
看来,只是地方不同,抓计生手段都差不多。我感觉,孩子的教育问题都是跟风惹的祸,大家都不跟也挺好。
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@jawad09 ·
English Version Of This Awesome Article Written By Teacher @rivalhw!
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#### Second child? Three children?

Those who have read Mo Yan's novel “Big Breast and Buttocks” will certainly be impressed by some of the family planning-related issues in the novel. In fact, after I read it, I feel that although it is a novel, it actually happened.

About 30 years ago, when my mother was pregnant with my sister, she also went to her relatives and her family to escape from her and her pregnant women. Now young people may not feel much about it. We must know that The family planning policy of the country did not take long to implement, and it was very strict. Therefore, when implementing the policy below, it is relatively simple and crude. For example, the family planning inspectors will come to the village regularly to check and find that there is a single birth. Women are required to undergo sterilization, and if they are men, they should do ligation. Of course, because only one person in the same family can do it, the average man rarely does ligation, but most women do sterilization.

For those who have just had a second child, they will be forced to undergo abortion once they are found. For those surviving families, the solution is more consistent, that is, fines. If fines are handed in, they will not be pursued. If the fines are not paid, the staff members will come to the house to remind them that if they have not paid the fines, they will be forcibly removed from the house. However, rural people generally did not have too many valuable assets, perhaps the most valuable are the livestock at home, such as cattle, sheep, pigs, etc., so it is often seen when every family planning staff comes to the village, pregnant women scattered away, people who did not pay fines panic. The land was closed, but all this did not seem to be effective. Those people had some measures. The doors and walls could even be pushed down. The cattle, sheep and pigs would naturally be forced to pull away and confiscated the fines for the excesses, leaving a messy and messy mess.

Of course, if we recall this period of history after thirty years, we will feel that some of them are more cruel, but they also understand that they can understand. Because of patriarchal thinking, families without boys want boys, and families with boys also want more lives. In "many people are more powerful," many children are just "more pairs of chopsticks," etc. Under the thinking of the people, the skyrocketing population is inevitable. It is also true that because the population is growing too fast, the government has to adopt a mandatory family planning policy.

Time flies, time flies. Nearly forty years later, with the skyrocketing housing prices and the increasing pressure on cities to survive, coupled with changes in people’s traditional attitudes, most families are generally a child, even after the previous year’s policy officially released their second child, the population’s The growth rate is far below today’s estimate, and the main reason is that “it is easy to have children and it is difficult to raise children”.

Why do you say that? Let’s not say that modern young people almost empty their “six purses” (male and female, father and mother, and grandparents) when they buy a house, as well as the pressure for repayment, and the cost of attending school for children. If it is a public school, the cost is relatively low. Many, but other extra-curricular interests and hobbies, training fees, etc., are mixed up every month is not a small sum of expenditure, there are the most critical, the child who brought? After all, the number of families that can afford to use babysitters is still small, and the news of the dark side of the society that is occasionally exposed, unless it is really impossible, is always unsettling.

After thinking about it, it is still safer to trust it to the school. However, from time to time, even the listing company’s own kindergarten, including Ctrip, has children being abused.

At this time, grandparents are very old. The most important thing is that many people of the previous generation came to live in the city. Adapting to life in the city is also a problem. The rest can only be resigned by both husband and wife to take the child full time at home, but at the thought that the loan is not returned, the child's various education and training costs, family expenses, etc., the head began to grow, and would like to resign from full-time child Hey, you still have to wait for it.

As for wanting to regenerate a child? Not to mention three children, the second child did not dare to look down.

Even if we fully liberalize the family planning policy, I believe that for most people, this is not too exciting, and at most it is only one more news.

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#### This is indeed a very good Novel and you summarized it very well dear @rivalhw. Keep it up and always stay blessed!
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@luneknight ·
鹅民不够用  赶紧爆人口
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@nurhayati ·
@rivalhw, This novel I like, I have never read it, where can I get a novel, is there a form of Pdf, or is on the website, let me search.

I agree, despite the fiction, but it is also true. i`am From Indonesia.
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@olvio · (edited)
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<p><strong>Hello Sir,</strong></p>
<p>Good evening!&nbsp;</p>
<p>How are you?</p>
<p>Hopefully you are good at the grace of God.Today is your first blog post, I started the translation in three international languages by expressing my heartfelt respect and love for you.</p>
<p><strong>English version:</strong></p>
<p>Those who have read Mo Yan's novel “Big Breast and Buttocks” will certainly be impressed by some of the family planning-related issues in the novel. In fact, after I read it, I feel that, although it is a novel, it actually happened.<br>
</p>
<p>About 30 years ago, when my mother was pregnant with my sister, she also went to her relatives and her family to escape from her and her pregnant women. Now young people may not feel much about it. We must know that the country’s The family planning policy did not take long to implement, and it was very strict. Therefore, the implementation of policies below is relatively simple and crude. For example, family planning inspectors regularly come to the village to check and find that if one pregnancy occurs, one birth will occur. Women are required to undergo sterilization, and if they are men, they should do ligation. Of course, because only one person in the same family can do it, the average man rarely does ligation, but most women do sterilization.<br>
</p>
<p>For those who have just had a second child, they will be forced to undergo abortion surgery once they are found. For those surviving families, the solution is more consistent, that is, fines. If fines are handed in, they will not be pursued. If the fines are not paid, the staff members will come to the house to remind them that if they have not paid the fines, they will be forcibly removed from the house at home. However, rural people generally did not Too many valuable assets, perhaps the most valuable are the livestock at home, such as cattle, sheep, pigs, etc., so it is often seen when the family planning staff came to the village, pregnant women scattered away, people who did not pay fines panic. The land was closed, but all this did not seem to be effective. Those people had some measures. The doors and walls could even be pushed down. The cattle, sheep and pigs would naturally be forced to pull away and confiscated the fines for the excesses, leaving a messy and messy mess.<br>
</p>
<p>Of course, if we recall this period of history after thirty years, we will feel that some of them are more cruel, but they also understand that they can understand. Because of patriarchal thinking, no boy's family wants a boy, and a boy's family also wants to live a few more times. In "many people are more powerful," many children are just "more pairs of chopsticks," etc. Under the thinking of the people, the skyrocketing population is inevitable. It is also true that because the population is growing too fast, the government has to adopt a mandatory family planning policy.</p>
<p>Time flies, time flies. Nearly forty years later, with the skyrocketing housing prices and the increasing pressure on cities to survive, coupled with changes in people’s traditional attitudes, most families are generally a child, even after the previous year’s policy officially released their second child, the population’s The growth rate is far below today's estimate, and the most important reason is that "it is easy to have children and it is difficult to raise children."</p>
<p>Why do you say that? Let’s not say that modern young people almost empty their “six purses” (male and female, father and mother, and grandparents) when they buy a house, as well as the pressure for repayment, and the cost of attending school for children, if the public school is relatively inexpensive. Many, but other extra-curricular interests and hobbies, training fees, etc., are mixed up every month is not a small sum of expenditure, there are the most critical, the child who brought? After all, the number of families that can afford to use babysitters is still small, and the news of the dark side of the society that is occasionally exposed, unless it is really impossible, will always make people unable to be practical.<br>
</p>
<p>After thinking about it, it is still safer to trust it to the school. However, from time to time, even the listing company’s own kindergarten, including Ctrip, has children being abused.<br>
</p>
<p>At this time, grandparents are very old. The most important thing is that many people of the previous generation came to live in the city. Adapting to life in the city is also a problem. The only thing left is for the husband and wife to resign and take the child full time at home. However, at the thought that the loan is not returned, the child’s education and training expenses, and family expenses, the head begins to grow and he wants to resign. Hey, you still have to wait for it.</p>
<p>As for wanting to regenerate a child? Not to mention three children, the second child did not dare to look down.</p>
<p>Even if we fully liberalize the family planning policy, I believe that for most people, this is not too exciting, and at most it is only one more news.&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Dear visitors, please read the previous blog post of sir;</strong></p>
<p><strong>1. https://bit.ly/2s2qtBM</strong></p>
<p><strong>Please Note: Now that I am commenting on using specific words, I can not comment in three languages simultaneously, please you will see the remaining two international languages translations below my original comment.</strong></p>
<p>Sir, please mark the mistakes if I am wrong and see them in a favorable way.</p>
<p>I personally express my heartfelt respect and honor, you are an idol and I am a little fan of you, I feel fortunate to be with you in every future.</p>
<p>Sir, give my sincere honor to your family and give your children my affection.</p>
<p>I pray to God to be your longevity.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;olvio</p>
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@olvio ·
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<p><strong>Japanese version:</strong></p>
<p>Mo Yanの小説「Big Breast and Buttocks」を読んだ人は、小説の家族計画に関するいくつかの問題に確かに感銘を受けたでしょう。実際、私はそれを読んだ後、それは小説ですが、実際には起こったと感じます。</p>
<p>約30年前、私の母親が私の妹を妊娠していたとき、彼女はまた、彼女と彼女の妊娠中の女性から逃げるために、親戚と彼女の家族に行きました。今、若者たちはそれについて多くのことを感じないかもしれません。我が国の家族計画政策は、実施に時間がかからず、非常に厳格であったことを知る必要があります。したがって、政策の実施は比較的簡単で原油です。例えば、家族計画検査官は定期的に村に来て、1つの妊娠が起こると、1つの誕生が起こることを確認し、発見する。女性は自動提供が求められ、男性の場合は結紮を行うべきです。もちろん、同じ家族の一人だけがそれを行うことができるので、平均的な男性は結紮をすることはめったにありませんが、ほとんどの女性は</p>
<p>ちょうど2番目の子供がいた人のために、彼らはいったん彼らがいたら、中絶の手術を受けることを余儀なくされるでしょう。生き残っている家族にとって、解決策はより一貫しています。すなわち、罰金です。罰金が科せられた場合、罰金が科せられない場合、罰金が支払われなければ、スタッフは家に来て、罰金を払わなければ自宅の家から強制的に撤去されることを思い出させる。しかし、農村部の人々は一般的にはあまり多くはなかったが、家畜の家畜、羊、豚などの家畜が最も価値があるかもしれないので、家族計画スタッフが村に来たときによく見られる罰金を支払わなかった人々はパニックに陥る。土地は閉鎖されていたが、これはすべて有効ではなかったようだ。それらの人々にはいくつかの対策がありました。牛舎や羊、豚は、必然的に引き離され、過度の罰金を押収され、厄介で混乱した混乱を招いてしまいます。</p>
<p>もちろん、私たちが30年後のこの歴史の時代を思い出すと、彼らのうちのいくつかはもっと残酷だと感じるでしょうが、彼らは理解することもできます。家父長理的思考のために、男の子の家族は男の子を望んでおらず、男の子の家族は人がより強力な少数しか生きられないことを望んでいる」多くの子供はちょうど「箸のペアが多い」などです。政府は義務的な家族計画の方針を採用している。</p>
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<p>時間は飛んで、時間は飛ぶ。ほぼ40年後、急騰する住宅価格と生き残るための都市への圧力が高まり、人々の伝統的な態度の変化と相まって、ほとんどの家族は一般的に子供であり、前年の政策が第2子を放棄した後でさえ、今日の推定値をはるかに下回っており、最も重要な理由は、「子供を産むのは容易で、子どもを育てることは難しい」ということです。</p>
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<p>なぜそれを言うのですか?近代的な若者が家を買うときに、彼らの "6つの財布"(男性と女性、父と母、祖父母)がほとんど空であるとは言わないでください。また、返済のための圧力と子供のための学校に通う費用公立学校は非常に安価です。多くの、しかし他の余分なカリキュラムの興味や趣味、訓練費などは、毎月混在している支出の小額ではない、最も重要なのは、持って来た子供ですか?結局のところ、ベビーシッターを利用することができる家族の数はまだまだ少なく、時折公開される社会の暗い側面のニュースは、本当に不可能でない限り、常に人々を実践できないようにします。</p>
<p>それを考えた後、それを学校に信頼することはまだ安全です。しかし、時折、Ctripを含む上場企業の幼稚園でさえ、子供が虐待されています。</p>
<p>唯一重要な左は夫と妻のためのものです。あなたはまだそれを待たなければなりません。</p>
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<p>子供を再生したいのですか? 3人の子供はもちろんのこと、2人目の子供は敢えて見下ろすこともありませんでした。</p>
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<p>私たちが家族計画の方針を完全に自由化しても、私はほとんどの人にとってこれはあまりにもエキサイティングではなく、たいていただ一つのニュースであると信じています。</p>
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<p><strong>Spanish version:</strong></p>
<p>Aquellos que hayan leído la novela de Mo Yan "Big Breast and Buttocks" ciertamente quedarán impresionados por algunos de los temas relacionados con la planificación familiar en la novela. De hecho, después de leerlo, siento que, aunque es una novela, en realidad sucedió.</p>
<p>Hace unos 30 años, cuando mi madre estaba embarazada de mi hermana, ella también acudió a sus parientes y a su familia para escapar de ella y sus mujeres embarazadas. Ahora los jóvenes pueden no sentir mucho al respecto. Debemos saber que la política de planificación familiar del país no tardó en implementarse, y fue muy estricta. Por lo tanto, la implementación de políticas es relativamente simple y cruda. Por ejemplo, los inspectores de planificación familiar acuden regularmente al pueblo para verificar que, si ocurre un embarazo, ocurra un nacimiento. Se requiere que las mujeres proporcionen automáticas, y si son hombres, deben hacer la ligadura. Por supuesto, como solo una persona de la misma familia puede hacerlo, el hombre común rara vez lo hace, pero la mayoría de las mujeres lo hacen</p>
<p>Para aquellos que acaban de tener un segundo hijo, se verán obligados a someterse a una cirugía de aborto una vez que lo sean. Para las familias que sobreviven, la solución es más consistente, es decir, multas. Si se entregan multas, no serán entregadas. Si no se pagan las multas, los miembros del personal vendrán a la casa para recordarles que si no han pagado las multas, serán sacadas a la fuerza de la casa en su casa. Sin embargo, la gente del campo en general no lo hizo. Demasiadas, quizás las más valiosas son el ganado en casa, como ganado, ovejas, cerdos, etc., por lo que a menudo se ve cuando el personal de planificación familiar llegó al pueblo, las mujeres embarazadas escaparon , personas que no pagaron multas por multas La tierra estaba cerrada, pero todo esto no parecía ser efectivo. Esas personas tenían algunas medidas. Incluso se podría empujar hacia abajo las puertas y las paredes. El ganado, las ovejas y los cerdos se verían obligados a retirarse y confiscar las multas por los excesos, dejando un desorden desordenado y desordenado.</p>
<p>Por supuesto, si recordamos este período de la historia después de treinta años, sentiremos que algunos de ellos son más crueles, pero también que pueden entender. Debido al pensamiento patriarcal, ninguna familia de niños quiere un niño, y la familia de un niño quiere que las personas vivan menos poderosas, "muchos niños son simplemente" más pares de palillos chinos ", etc. Bajo el pensamiento de la gente, la población también está creciendo. rápido, el gobierno ha adoptado una política obligatoria de planificación familiar.</p>
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<p>El tiempo vuela, el tiempo vuela. Casi cuarenta años después, con los precios de las viviendas en aumento y la creciente presión sobre las ciudades para sobrevivir, junto con los cambios en las actitudes tradicionales de las personas, la mayoría de las familias son generalmente niños, incluso después de que la política del año anterior liberara a su segundo hijo. la tasa es muy inferior a la estimación de hoy, y la razón más importante es que "es fácil tener hijos y es difícil criar a los hijos".</p>
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<p>¿Por qué dices eso? No digamos que los jóvenes modernos casi vacían sus "seis bolsos" (hombres y mujeres, padre y madre, y abuelos) cuando compran una casa, así como la presión para el pago, y el costo de asistir a la escuela para niños, si el la escuela pública es significativamente barata. Muchos, pero otros intereses y pasatiempos extracurriculares, tarifas de capacitación, etc., se mezclan cada mes, no es una pequeña suma de gastos, hay los más críticos, ¿el niño que trajo? Después de todo, el número de familias que pueden permitirse usar niñeras es todavía pequeño, y las noticias del lado oscuro de la sociedad que a veces se exponen, a menos que sea realmente imposible, siempre harán que las personas no sean prácticas.</p>
<p>Después de pensarlo, es aún más seguro confiarlo a la escuela. Sin embargo, de vez en cuando, incluso el propio jardín de infantes de la empresa que cotiza en bolsa, incluido Ctrip, hace que se abuse de los niños.</p>
<p>Lo único importante que queda para el esposo y la esposa es que Él todavía tiene que Esperarlo.</p>
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<p>En cuanto a querer regenerar a un niño? Sin mencionar a tres niños, el segundo niño no se atrevió a mirar hacia abajo.</p>
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<p>Incluso si liberalizamos por completo la política de planificación familiar, creo que para la mayoría de las personas esto no es demasiado emocionante, y como máximo es solo una noticia más.</p>
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@qifenggan ·
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偷偷告诉你们,我有三个女儿,还好不在大中国,不然要苦必死了!!
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@sherry-2 ·
其实对于很多现在的年轻人来说连一胎都不想生或者说是不敢生,养不起。
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@shine.wong ·
在大中国,有胆量生的都是勇士!!佩服~
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@veronicazhu ·
我遇到过一位朋友,貌似是安徽的,她说她妈妈为了躲避工作人员,逃到了墓地,然后恰巧,她要诞生了……于是她在墓地里出生了......
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@aafeng ·
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特殊的时代就有特殊的故事
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@veronicazhu ·
特别是85年前后,特别严格,有好多令人目瞪口呆的故事…………
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@rivalhw ·
她的名字是不是叫小龙女?
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@veronicazhu ·
古墓派耶!
大伟哥你太逗了,哈哈哈哈!
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@xiaoshancun ·
放开二孩儿对于我们没感觉,总觉得70后是委屈的一代人,压力山大啊!
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@zilin ·
政策随便一放开,我们也就随便一听,该怎样还怎样,哈哈😄
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