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Testing Communities in Steempeak: Check the Discord Feature! by riverflows

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Testing Communities in Steempeak: Check the Discord Feature!

## Finally, I'm playing around on beta.steempeak.com  in the new communities section. I have given up looking at Steem communities as I just don't play on Steemit - Steempeak has always been my front end of choice. If you're not there, you should be. Why?

- An easy wallet system where you can even delegate, view SBI and more
- You can view payouts in tokens on your favourite tribe
- You can organise users into categories - eg I can group all my friends under one tag to find them easily
- You can draft, create templates and more
- You can easily set post beneficiaries and schedule posts.
- Now, on beta, you can join communities and select which communities you want to post from. 


#### Steempeak moves so fast on listening to people's request and adapting to suit the needs of Steemians that I'm well aware by the time I post this later today, some of these observations might be redundant, changed or acted upon. You're welcome to review the site yourself - simply log in with your keys at beta.steempeak.com. 

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## Oh My God - Discord Visible on Steempeak! 

This is huge. I easily followed the steps (okay, with a little assurance and confirmation from @asgarth - cheers!) to enable Disord on the site. I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about this BUT it means that you don't have to download Discord to chat in the server and can do it straight from Discord! This means that anyone new to the community can easily see what scintillating conversations might be happening within our server. :P

There's still a few things I need to get clear in my head: 

- Is it possible to only allow delegators to view the Discord, or chosen community members, rather than a free for all? 
- What are the real benefits of having Discord on site - Discord folk are going to have their Discord app, surely, rendering this superfluous? 
- Will people use it if it's not monetised?  

# More Observations Within Communities - Notes and Queries

- I can view my communities Feed as opposed to my ordinary feed
- As a tribe owner I can easily change the settings, add mods, and give member roles to who I choose
- I can mute members - amazing! 
- I can sort the 'view' - one new viewing option is to organise the posts by photos. This would be amazing for a photo-visual art community! 
- I can see any new activities within the tribe, such as subscribers
- I can choose to post from my blog or just within the community which I presume will be visible to only community members. I'm still a bit confused with how this syncs across all the front ends and Steemit itself, so I haven't tested that yet on my blog. 
- I can easily see what the community is about, and who the admins/mods might be from the ABOUT tab. As a tribe owner I'd also like to be able to see people who we've selected as members eg delegators. 
- The top bar helps me see how many members there are - I'd like to be able to click on that and see an instant list of members that I can sort from there. My instinct is to click on the numbers on that image bar. 
- I'm not sure what the 'pending rewards' is about - is that for the community, for natural medicine, for all as a whole? 
- **Most importantly - if I post in 'communities' to the community and NOT my blog - does it appear on other front ends?** I imagine this is the case until Steemit and Steempeak come out of Beta. Until then, I'm still not sure I'm that excited about communities as posting *just* to community members is really what we're all after. 
- I'm also not sure about what will happen if I post to the community within the same 24 hour window in terms of autovotes. Say a user gets one upvote a day via Steemauto. Does that count posts in communities as WELL as posts within a blog, as that would screw things up a bit. I'd like them to be counted separately as they would have very different functions - eg a community post might be a quick announcement or a query or a forum, rather than a more lengthy and well produced blog. 

![image.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/riverflows/0bbXbPRh-image.png)

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![image.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/riverflows/BagqDlof-image.png)



# Tags within Communities

One of the most common requests in our community is a way to archive, sort or search posts. Some kind of search function would be amazing or a sorting via tag within the community (perhaps the same thing). Only this morning someone was asking for anyone who's written a 'how to make soap' post they could read - searching for it is a nightmare. 

Thus, I could use #naturalmedicine and #herbalism more happily on my posts. Most people will use tags that will be seen by tribes for extra rewards - #herbalism is an extra tag that could count for outside SEO/interest and thus *should* be used. To find posts related to #herbalism and sort in that way would be incredible. 

Another search feature which would be useful is to search for a specific user within the community.
# Tribes V. Communities

It did occur to me as I was playing around today that new users - or even many old ones - might not really get the difference between 'tribes' and 'communities' as these words are used interchangeably outside Steem. 

Perhaps a small explanation is necessary - something like 'View posts through Tribe pages to see your rewards in tokens specific to each Tribe'.  I find myself having to explain this a lot to people. 

![image.png](https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/riverflows/eEa3kXmN-image.png)

# That's all for now - I'm sure I'll post again if I think of anything glaringly amazing or annoying! Recommend you start testing and giving feedback - communities are a great step forward for Steem! Setting @steempeak as part beneficiary on this post - well done guys for all your hard graft. You truly are appreciated. 

### For anyone who might like to join the Natural Medicine community, do so here: https://beta.steempeak.com/c/hive-120078/ - remember you just have to sign in with your usual posting key. Let me know what you think. 

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[@naturalmedicine](https://steemit.com/@naturalmedicine) II [Discord Invite](https://discord.gg/Gy9HFQ6) II #naturalmedicine

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@cmplxty ·
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Once again the Steempeak team blows away the Steemit front end. Incredible! I need to check this new stuff out for sure!
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@riverflows · 
They are just awesome!
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Long live Steempeak. Awaiting communities integration with excitement!
So far, communities haven't rocked my world but as time goes by, discovery tools will be perfected!
I also agree that it would be nice to have improved search on Steempeak and even perhaps to search your own content by month created.
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@riverflows · 
They are constantly listening and updating.. an incredibly responsive team. I think in the end itll be great.. hopefully we can have monetized forum type posts too..
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@fenngen ·
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Guess I'll be trying Steempeak for a while then!
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You won’t be disappointed! I’ve been using them for a year almost and they’re the best.
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Oh you definitely should!!! It really is worth the change.
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@melinda010100 · 
You almost make me wish I was Steemin from a computer! But not really cuz I love my phone and my eSteem app! 😁
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@nateonsteemit · 
The steempeak browser interface works really well for me on my phone. Never tried esteem though, so I can't speak to which is better.
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@melinda010100 · 
Thanks! I'll take a look.
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@melinda010100 · 
But there is not an app, right? How do you access it?
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@plantstoplanks · 
I've got some catching up to do, as always, haha!  Awesome to see @steempeak once again jumping out in front with some awesome new features.  I've been a fan ever since I started using it pretty much exclusively for interacting with the Steem blockchain on my laptop, so I imagine I will be a fan of anything new they're rolling out!  Thanks for helping to keep me in the loop. :)
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@riverflows · 
No worries!!! I'm exclusively using beta now even on my.phone!
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@sn0n · 
Odd, I only see this post on naturalmedicine.io not beta.steempeak.com

Communities confuse me still. LoL
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@riverflows · 
Thats weird as it was posted to blog... I think. Let me check it out.
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@steempeak · 
> What are the real benefits of having Discord on site - Discord folk are going to have their Discord app, surely, rendering this superfluous?

Discord on discord itself is way better as it has so many more features and allows for notifications. However there are many people that don't use discord so this is now a window for them.



> Will people use it if it's not monetised?

Most of discord and most of the internet is used by people not seeking monetization. If your community is only built on people just seeking monetization that's I guess something for you guys to consider.



> The top bar helps me see how many members there are - I'd like to be able to click on that and see an instant list of members that I can sort from there

Working on it.

> Most importantly - if I post in 'communities' to the community and NOT my blog - does it appear on other front ends? I imagine this is the case until Steemit and Steempeak come out of Beta. 

You can think of Hivemind communities as system to inform interfaces like us about how to organize steem posts. They're all just steem posts... but when it puts the hive tag in the first position special things happen on the interface. Also the API is really what tells us where things are supposed to go... so the hivemind system basically says put that stuff there and that other stuff over there. 
So yes if a site doesn't follow communities it will continue to put it on the home pages... this is why my personal account (@jarvie) still posts some stuff with other alternate accounts because it's really meant for the community and not my blog home page. 
So we sort of are waiting for everyone to come out of beta ... not sure what's going to happen with interfaces that aren't currently designing community support like busy and partiko. Do they just become irrelevant because they didn't keep up?

> I'm also not sure about what will happen if I post to the community within the same 24 hour window in terms of autovotes. 

Unless they specifically change their code to recognize community posts and then change their interface to give autovoters an ability to not autovote community posts then you should assume that autovote systems don't even have a way to distinguish what thing is a regular post vs a community post. 

> Perhaps a small explanation is necessary - something like 'View posts through Tribe pages to see your rewards in tokens specific to each Tribe'.

Yes this will increasingly be important for interfaces like us and for steem-engine itself to help users understand what it is they're doing exactly. Your definition is pretty good. 

We are in search of a good description... would love to see community members or even steem-engine itself work on a good description that educates users. 

For example we can have a sub-page of the community that shows all content that uses the communities steem-engine tribe token. Just another way to sort content.
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@metametheus · 
On the Steemit version of communities, there is a button that allows the ‘community’ post to be ‘posted to (personal) blog’.

That’s feature not available on Steempeak communities, I noticed.... or is it, and I missed it?

Also, I’m assuming then that even if a community is ‘members-only’ then the content will show up on old-school Steem feeds? Or will the content be private and viewable only to the members? Is that something that is or will be possible?
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@riverflows · 
When you write the post @metametheus it gives you an option of community or blog. I think he answered re old school steem front ends.. they will have to keep up or ship out. For now, a good solution would be to use alt for community only posts perhaps (in terms of rewards) and wait for everyone to catch up!
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@steempeak · 
You can just resteem the post and it will end up on your "blog feed". 
I suppose we could look into making that an option right when you write the post. 
We could add it to the ADVANCED section of the drafts area for now cc @asgarth
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$0.12
All of this makes sense and love your reply. I think at Nat Med alt would be a good idea for community announcements to temporarily solve the autovote problem. I am hoping that either the other front ends keep up! Else fall away to the marvel of the Steempeak mountain!

I love all your different ways of sorting content - it makes sense for navigating easily and intuitively through site. 

Thanks so much for your considerate and generous  reply. 

While I have you here, I wanted to add about the possibility of Steempeak activated Tribes being in alphabetical order? There seems little rhyme or reasoning to their order and it would make sense finding them that way, especially as (hopefully) the others go live too.
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@jarvie · 
I too have no understanding of how tribes are sorted. It's coming from steem-engine i believe. My guess it's some sort of in house sorting algorithm... maybe @asgarth knows.
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@thelogicaldude · 
okay, that is a game changer! Just went to the beta, thanks!
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@trucklife-family · 
I only recently started using steempeak myself and I a very impressed, looking forward to checking out the beta version, I didn't know it existed. Impressed how in the know you are sending you love my wonderful friend xxx
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