Really dude?  Didn't you just compete in the @minnowsupport project trip to steemfest?  Didn't you just get added to one of the bots to help support your content as a runner up.  You wrote 2 different posts as part of the competition... and now you shit on us?

Inside that discord group are 20+ channels where teams of people work together to make projects happen, help new authors, learn how this place works, and work as a team.  We're in multiple countries trying to on board new users.  We've seen contests, giveaways, and have helped people that are down on their luck.  For example, this community gave hundreds to an active member that lost their house and to a new member that's having twins.  We have a radio show coming out with hosts planning just to help teach new users tricks on here.  

The whole approach is to help new accounts figure this place out.  Many will tell you that they had no idea what they were doing.  Many have left without a community to support and help them.  If you want steemit to grow you have to help onboard and work to make the platform simple and effective for new users.  Yes, the messaging starts with earn from posting because that's what appeals to people, but the real plan is to teach them about a different way to be, act, and support one another in a model that doesn't purposefully induce scarcity.

The main account which upvotes 1600 posts a day is funded by people that delegate to it.  The curation rewards are shit because it all goes to minnow posts that basically dont' earn much above what the account can give them. 
Currently all the accounts with any kind of voting in the project have roughly 140k SP combined from 200 separate delegations.

You're so off base it's crazy.  You're hypocritical for posting in our competitions losing, and then coming out against us?!?  You kinda strike me as a real douchebag right now.

As for bidbots.  Which you seem to be mixing in with @minnowsupport.  I have one of those too.  It's set to vote every 36 minutes.  That's a purposeful design to limit competition for post rewards meaning it's far more likely that someone can do the minimum bid and get the rewards rather than competing for it.  It works by accepting 0.01 sbd and paying out roughly 0.4.  You got me again.  Clearly these posts earning 0.4SBD every 36 minutes are draining the pool.  It has nothing to do with whales circlejerking and upvotign their own comments on low view posts... 

What's your alternative?  How do you help new users or what's the other proposal?  Where's your solution in action?

Shame on you too @matt-a for upvoting this trash.

Oh, and lastly, after 2 months of working 40hrs a week on this project I now witness 27blocks a day.  So, that's about 26 steem, which is about $25.  Considering I work 4-5 hours on this project I'm making a whopping $5/hr and you can check the transfer list and see I've donated hundreds to this project.  So, you got me.  I've nailed this get rich quick scheme.  Work long shitty hours for little pay on top of my full time job and donate what I get away.

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Aggroed

Dude I think everyone on here was thinking the exact same thing you just put it into words for us! This platform is supposed to be about original content and quality posts. A highly up voted post should theoritcally be valuable in some way to the community. These small cults of new minnows wanting to cash out quick by all supporting one another is just flooding the market with posts that shouldn't be getting recognition, while good content is being lost.

You forgot about writing a bunch of articles to help minnows with them all pointing to the bot and using the bot to upvote the post.

~~Oh you forgot making the membership sign-up extremely (perhaps overly?) complicated for a complete Steemit Newbie! With no guidance to how things work or even how to work that specific chat service - especially the bots within the service!~~

https://steemit.com/steemit/@farmstead/on-getting-caught-up-in-drama

I spend on average around 12 hours EVERY day in discord chat helping people navigate their way through signing up, even sending steem from my account to help them do so. If you think the upvote bots are the be all and end all you are very short sighted. Sure, they attract new users to the community, but when they get there they are introduced to the most helpful support system I have seen so far on Steemit. We have a room dedicated to helping with formatting posts, another dedicated to fiction writing with a couple of very talented and industry recognised critics and reviewers to help mould an ok story into a truly epic story/post. We have hundreds of newbies coming through every day asking about every aspect of the Steemit ecosystem - wanting to learn how to navigate it and best practices and we have a highly dedicated team at hand who either know or find the answers for them. Why? Money? Nope - we don't get anything financial out of this. We do it because we too are fairly new to the platform and know how difficult it is to get started. We genuinely want to help. If you can't see this then it's your loss.

This reads as a very bitter post about something you truly do not understand.

I thought something felt fishy about all those bots... you put my feelings into words. Makes me feel a little better about not using them.

I agree with these ideas completely. As a fairly new Steemit user I've also promoted a few of these bots through my articles and I think they could pose a threat if they aren't managed responsibly but the bigger issue seems to be the original distribution of Steem being controlled by a group that has the ability to corner the market. How will the minnows become dolphins if the game was already rigged from the beginning?

@aggroed has done much for the community, helping grow a network that supports newcomers and appropriate curation of posts. Promoting an attitude of tolerance, and even when any mistakes have been made is the first one to stand up and say I done messed up. I personally have started up initiatives to promote original and creative posts in an attempt to add value to Steemit and MSP/PALnet, moderate the discord server, and manually vote and curate myself on steemit. Also to go and participate in something like the contests and MSP in the hopes of getting a free ride and then to stand up on a soapbox and shit on the platform smacks of hypocrisy to me, you should be ashamed of yourself.

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